If only there was something we could do...

[garyfromterrace]

Sadly Gary, it’s not totally up to the voters.
Example - in Oregon the voters enacted a statute banning magazines larger than 10 rounds, and requiring expanded background checks and training.

Great…except the 2A lobby got a state judge in Lake county (MAGA country w/ population 8300 in a state of 4.3 million) to order a stay on implementation until arguments are heard on constitutionally.

WA just passed a law banning future sales of a list of “assault weapons”. Expect the same bullshit from the gun lobby.

CO just enacted a series of watered down laws. See https://www.npr.org/2023/04/29/11728...-control-bills

Whether they get challenged in court remains to be seen.

As noted above, more regulation will likely occur only if poor southern blacks start mass killing rich southern white folks. It worked in California in the 60’s

What you say brother TBS is very likely true (although I'm hoping your last comment regarding poor southern blacks isn't..).
But how bout this:
- A bunch of you (like 4 million) march on Washington and say enough is a fucking nuff.
- 300,000 (a good number if you said Michigan is 10 million, so say 3 % of a state's population) of you march on your state capitols saying stop this fucking nonsense NOW!
I would truly hope your idiot fucking legislators (for the most part it's the red ones I see as the problem here) would take notice?

I realize these are big numbers but FFS your citizens and their children are being slaughtered.

[skaredshtles]

Congrats, you earned my first ever block.

Provide the congressional records showing that the CIA was running inner city drug rings and I’ll unblock (though you’ll have to convince someone else to relay the message I guess).

Don't unblock him, for any reason.

[oldnew_guy]

I'll say it again.

The same people whinging about "authoritarians", "mental health", "gangs", "poverty", 'societal divisions and polarization", "<pick your excuse>" regarding gun violence are 99% of the time also opposed to doing anything about any of those issues as well and typically are actively supporting politicians who are introducing law, policy and media campaigns to make those issues worse.

[J. Barron DeJong]

Don't unblock him, for any reason.

Well, my sources say that no such document exists, and I’m convinced that my sources aren’t batshit crazy, so I don’t see an unblock happening.

But…. If he can provide that documentation, I’m going to need to reevaluate my whole life perspective. Maybe buy some assault rifles, build a bunker, stuff like that.

[leroy jenkins]

I'll say it again.

The same people whinging about "authoritarians", "mental health", "gangs", "poverty", 'societal divisions and polarization", "<pick your excuse>" regarding gun violence are 99% of the time also opposed to doing anything about any of those issues as well and typically are actively supporting politicians who are introducing law, policy and media campaigns to make those issues worse.

No, they are not. I'm not opposed to that at all. i'm literally trying to talk about those things and would like some national discourse about finding solutions to them .

This is absolutely not true, unless you distort reality by making everyone that doesn't agree with you some sort of monolith.

You are literally the ones who refuse to talk about these things and are absolutely uninterested in finding solutions to them. Not 'the gun nuts' but you specifically. This is objectively true.


Even if you hate guns and think they serve no purpose, love licking boots and have the governments dick in your mouth, focusing myopically on that isn't going to solve any problems.

[oldnew_guy]

<deleted the quote to benefit the ignore crowd>

"I don't insult people and want discourse!" "You are turning everyone into a monolith" -> proceeds to describe everyone else in monolithic terms and insult everyone.

You are definitely interested in talking, but you don't appear to be interested in listening or learning or solving anything.

[Peruvian]

Even if you hate guns and think they serve no purpose, love licking boots and have the governments dick in your mouth, focusing myopically on that isn't going to solve any problems.

What were you saying about insults just a few pages back?

[CarlMega]

proceeds to describe everyone else in monolithic terms and insult everyone.

"literally" in the next sentence. masterpiece.

[Meadow Skipper]

You are definitely interested in talking, but you don't appear to be interested in listening or learning or solving anything.

He’s not interested in listening or learning or solving anything. A ways upthread he allowed as how he wasn’t at all interested in compromise, he’s trying to bully everyone into his POV.

And speaking of everyone, I’ve noticed no one here - no one at all, from respected long-time mags to m-series jong trolls - has agreed with him or supported his ideas. It reminds me of an old Lithuanian saying my wife once told me: When ten sober people tell you you’re drunk, it’s time to lie down.

[SumJongGuy]

bla bla bla bla it's all other people and other problems.. me and muh gunz are fine.. It;s muy rawts bla bla bla..

[byates1]

^ so you've going to lead by example and turn in all your firearms?

Thought so.

[Cisco Kid]

They can take my 1910 Little Scout single shot .22 with a 14 1/2" barrel when they pry it from my cold dead hands.

[exsparky]

They can take my 1910 Little Scout single shot .22 with a 14 1/2" barrel when they pry it from my cold dead hands.

Stating you are breaking felony FFL laws to the tune of 10 years and $250,000 should be enough to get you banned but the pussies here can't even do that.

Wooley has toxoplasmosis and shouldn't be allowed to post, let alone have a gun.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toxoplasmosis

[SumJongGuy]

^ so you've going to lead by example and turn in all your firearms?

Thought so.

I'm not paying extra taxes either but I'm voting for people who will make all of us do that..

Following the current laws and voting for our representatives to enact much better ones.. which I will also follow to the letter.

[riser4]

Stating you are breaking felony FFL laws to the tune of 10 years and $250,000 should be enough to get you banned but the pussies here can't even do that.

Wooley has toxoplasmosis and shouldn't be allowed to post, let alone have a gun.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toxoplasmosis

There it is.

[byates1]

^ sounds like an antique plinker art piece. Illegal?

[exsparky]

^ sounds like an antique plinker art piece. Illegal?

The barrel is too short. That gun has been illegal since 1934. Nice to see 89 years of gun laws totally unenforced and bragged about while the righteous claim they want more rules no one will enforce.

Ban wooley and report him to the atf or shut up.

[Cisco Kid]

Stevens kids rifle. Dad got it at a garage sale. If I keep it in the house it's legal. Used it to fight off an invasion of squirrels. Perfect tool for the job. Funny story. My dad asked me to bring it to him when he was in a nursing home and a little loopy. "What do you want the gun for dad?" "To shoot those kids that come at night to steal carburetors from cars in the parking lot". WWII flash back from his time driving trucks and jeeps at the Italian front is my guess. I bet they shot a few.

[Buzzworthy]

Stevens kids rifle. Dad got it at a garage sale. If I keep it in the house it's legal. Used it to fight off an invasion of squirrels. Perfect tool for the job. Funny story. My dad asked me to bring it to him when he was in a nursing home and a little loopy. "What do you want the gun for dad?" "To shoot those kids that come at night to steal carburetors from cars in the parking lot". WWII flash back from his time driving trucks and jeeps at the Italian front is my guess. I bet they shot a few.

So you’re saying both you AND your dad have no business with that gun. Got it. And we wonder why people are shot on the daily.

[J. Barron DeJong]

The barrel is too short. That gun has been illegal since 1934. Nice to see 89 years of gun laws totally unenforced and bragged about while the righteous claim they want more rules no one will enforce.

Ban wooley and report him to the atf or shut up.

18” or 20” barrel is illegal? Thought cut off was 16”.

[::: :::]

short barrel rifles and pistols are both all the rage these days
("rage" is used fully ironically here)

[exsparky]

18” or 20” barrel is illegal? Thought cut off was 16”.

16" for rifle or 18" for a shotgun.

Wooly knows the gun is illegal across the nation to have and has been for 89 years. He posted this as a taunt knowing the forum is just full of big talk and no action types.

[Cisco Kid]

So you’re saying both you AND your dad have no business with that gun. Got it. And we wonder why people are shot on the daily.

Well I didn't bring him the gun, Skeezix. And I'd like to mount it on pine slab and sell it in a gift shop but you 2A-NRA coolade drinkers have ruined it for people in the sane gun world.

edit. Wolley knows it's legal. Now don't you feel dumb?

[Ted Striker]

Three dead in Annapolis today. Four shot by single shooter in Chicago on the same day as Atlanta. Two killed at Stone Mountain just the day before. Four killed in Florida the same day. The day before that, some perv killed his wife, her children, and himself. Six total. Day before that sixteen killed in seven incidents. The asshole who fatally shot five of his next door neighbors - including an eight year old - was two days earlier.

That's 36 in one week.

Four in Maine on the 18th. Four killed, 32 injured at a dance studio birthday party in Alabama on the 15th. Five bank employees on the 10th because they hid their colleague's stapler.

In more civilized countries, a single gun murder would be national news. Most shootings here don't even make the news. If there were a weather channel for shootings, it'd have enough content to broadcast 24/7/365

[byates1]

They've been selling Mossberg shockwave s and Remington tac 14, short barreled shotgun. Classified as " other" . Not illegal.