Running, Anyone...?

**squirrel** · 08-18-2008, 04:32 PM

Artie nice job man, I know many that DNF's at Leadville so I know it took real commitment to get that one done. Eat and drink plenty and recover you deserve it!

**valleygirl** · 08-28-2008, 07:34 PM

Artie -- blown away by your TR. Awesome write/read.

I'm comfortable w/my weekly 10 milers at this point and ready to jig it up a little. Am not running as often, but longer when I do. My shin splints faded out at some point -- I wish I'd noticed as I would have celebrated... they suck.

This weekend a nice long one on the trails... hoping for more than 10 but my friend hasn't done 10 yet so might not be able. I'll just be happy for the hour and a half of doing what now brings me sanity.

Gave my notice at my job and that gives a little, takes a little...

Just six today but it was a lovely lunch hour...

**skiaholik** · 09-03-2008, 07:32 PM

Bump because it's still running season and this thing doesn't deserve to be this deep in the padded room.

8 this evening, feeling good. Got new shoes over the weekend, only 5.5wks out of the Chicago and can't wait.

How's everyone else coming along? Both those training for an upcoming race and those just running for the escape.

**carpathian** · 09-03-2008, 07:50 PM

I just tried out this new knee brace running yesterday. Huge difference in keeping the old 'floating left knee cap' in place.

**valleygirl** · 09-04-2008, 04:14 AM

Not sure of the distance last weekend but we eked out 1:45 endeavoring to work up to the 2 hour requirement for the 1/2 marathon. I was surprised and thrilled to not feel it the next day -- and it wasn't exactly the "nice, flat carriage roads" I had promised my friend -- she was really mad at me in the first half hour as the hills kept coming...

Starting a trail running series tonight for fun and something different -- need to pick up some pace and see what I can do.

The half is still 8 weeks away... might be time for new shoes... how many miles do you guys put on 'em?

**steve** · 09-06-2008, 06:13 PM

I've written a race report for my failed attempt at the 2008 Grand Teton Races 50-mile ultra, please click here to read it: http://stevetursi.blogspot.com/2008/...ile-ultra.html

**tarkman1** · 09-06-2008, 06:25 PM

I ran the Santa Barbara Pier to Peak half marathon on Sunday.

Start at sea level and finish at 3,996 feet. Pretty much it is an unrelenting climb. I finished in 2:13. The winning time was 1:33. My hip flexors are just getting back to normal after being sore for the last week.

I plan on running another (less arduous) half marathon next month. I'm gunning for 1:40.

**Red Baron** · 09-07-2008, 09:04 AM

Yes, running season is very much still "on"...

We did the Nike Human Race (Chicago) last weekend - that was a blast and one of the best organized 15,000 runner races I've ever seen.

I'm heading out the door in a few for a 10 miler - and have the Banco Popular Chicago Half Marathon a week from today, and the Moab (other) Half coming up in October.

For anyone coming to Chicago for the marathon - we're not doing it and are happy to help out anyone coming in with support along the course (food, water, etc - though I imagine water won't be a problem this year, after the stupidity last year) - or anything else.

Just let me know. We live right in the city and the marathon course comes down Broadway about 800' from our front door at around mile 10.

**skiaholik** · 09-07-2008, 10:05 AM

Originally Posted by Red Baron

Yes, running season is very much still "on"...

We did the Nike Human Race (Chicago) last weekend - that was a blast and one of the best organized 15,000 runner races I've ever seen.

I'm heading out the door in a few for a 10 miler - and have the Banco Popular Chicago Half Marathon a week from today, and the Moab (other) Half coming up in October.

For anyone coming to Chicago for the marathon - we're not doing it and are happy to help out anyone coming in with support along the course (food, water, etc - though I imagine water won't be a problem this year, after the stupidity last year) - or anything else.

Just let me know. We live right in the city and the marathon course comes down Broadway about 800' from our front door at around mile 10.

Glad to hear the Human Race was well put together. I planned on taking the train down from MKE to do it but ended up going to Burlington,VT for the long weekend instead.

I'll be coming down for the Chicago Marathon in 5wks and staying with a friend in Lincoln Park. As of know I don't know how many of my friends are coming down or those in Chicago that are going to watch but it's always great to have an extra cheerer (is that even a word?). Thanks for the food/water support offer. I plan on carrying most of the gels I need but may take you up on that offer after I map everything out a bit better.

Ran 22.2 yesterday just under 8min splits so I'm def well ahead of the 3:30 goal as most people say to run your long runs 50s-2min/mi slower than race pace.

To all the veterans, I'm debating between doing a long slow taper from here (5wks out from the race) or running another 20-24mi next weekend and then tapering. I've heard both arguments but I want the collective's thoughts. so...

**steve** · 09-11-2008, 07:43 PM

fellow maggots,

i have officially registered for the rocky raccoon 100 mile ultra in huntsville,tx on february 7.
http://www.tejastrails.com/Rocky.html

since I know you'll all be skiing that weekend, please think of those less smart among us - who go to texas during prime ski season and run non-stop for 24-30 hours.

**Sparky** · 09-20-2008, 02:54 PM

^^^ FKNA Steve, all the best with that dude.

I just finished my 1st mountain race today. It was the Three Shires Fell Race, 14 miles, 4,000ft ascent and rough terrain. I found myself up to my chest in bog water at one point having got a jump wrong and had to climb out... loved it. The times aren't out yet but the fastest was about 1hr 53min, I ran it in 3hrs 15min. But I had such a blowout on whiskey and smokes last weekend

that fouled up my training, I was just pleased to make it round.

Training now for the Original Mountain Marathon on the 25th Oct
http://www.theomm.com/courses.html

**edg** · 09-20-2008, 03:12 PM

Cool shit, Sparky.

edg

**Skis** · 09-20-2008, 03:47 PM

Ultra runners: How do you get your knees to forgive you?

**steve** · 09-20-2008, 04:27 PM

Originally Posted by Skis

Ultra runners: How do you get your knees to forgive you?

I give my knees hookers as gifts. blow helps, too.

hookers and blow. it's the key to ultrarunning happiness.

**Viva** · 09-20-2008, 04:53 PM

Originally Posted by Skis

Ultra runners: How do you get your knees to forgive you?

???

One's knees are fine or they're not...doesn't matter the distance.

Only knee trauma I ever experienced came from skiing.

**Mofro261** · 09-20-2008, 05:36 PM

Originally Posted by Viva

???

One's knees are fine or they're not...doesn't matter the distance.

Only knee trauma I ever experienced came from skiing.

X2...3....4....

**Chook** · 09-20-2008, 09:24 PM

I've been running at work over my lunch hour in Yemen. It's the only time we're allowed out of our compound as the gates are locked up at dusk and dark. Yesterday I ran 8km in 48 minutes in 41C (105F) heat, and it was pretty killer. Saw 17 camels which made it a little interesting. I'm hoping to attempt a half ironman next year and a full ironman in 2010. We'll see what happens, I need to spend a lot of time in the swimming pool. Skiing should be a good way to build up some solid muscle in my quads / hammies over the winter but I'll need to do plenty of endurance training in the spring!!

**valleygirl** · 09-21-2008, 06:08 AM

Last weekend was a 2:07 run up up up the experimental forest trails to the top of Bear Notch. That was the longest time I've ever run as the half marathon only took 2:02 when I ran it six years ago. Good to know I can keep it going though my quads were a bit sore as the down was just relentless. Yesterday we took it easy (!) and just did 9+ -- still up & down but no pain today so far... As much as I am loving the whole training thing, it is time consuming and I'm thinking after the race I'm taking a couple weekends off...

I was of a mind that all this hill training will make the very flat half marathon a piece of cake but someone mentioned yesterday that "it's a whole different muscle group to run flat..." Any thoughts on that? I'm not really worried... am in the best shape of my life and aside from being BORED SILLY I don't think I'll have a problem w/the flatness... will I?

**lionelhutz** · 09-21-2008, 09:18 AM

Anybody else just run the philly 1/2 marathon?
Great weather for a run - 1:55:40.

**skiaholik** · 09-21-2008, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by valleygirl

I was of a mind that all this hill training will make the very flat half marathon a piece of cake but someone mentioned yesterday that "it's a whole different muscle group to run flat..." Any thoughts on that? I'm not really worried... am in the best shape of my life and aside from being BORED SILLY I don't think I'll have a problem w/the flatness... will I?

Valleygirl, I can't say I'm speaking from experience, just from what I've been told and read, but I would say what you were told yesterday is correct. Running flat for a long time is much different than running intermixed hills and flat. You work different muscles on your legs and feet and it's a different pounding on your body in general than mixing it up. I'm running the Chicago which is supposed to be very flat and have read that there's no point in really doing hill training for it because there are no hills. Instead it's more important to get your body used to taking the beating of running on flat pavement for hours on end. I don't think I would be worried if I were you but I would try and get in some long flat runs. They may seem easier at first but your body (more your feet and calves) will react differently because of the difference in biomechanics of how your foot hits flat vs up hill ground.

Others have anything to add?

**Shorey** · 09-21-2008, 02:38 PM

The nerves are kicking in already.

I've got a 70 miler this weekend over a very hilly course.

ANyway...the purpose of this post is to congratulate Sparky for his Fell Race efforts this last weekend. Nice one bro.

**tarkman1** · 09-21-2008, 03:19 PM

Well, I'm still on track for a half marathon on 10/12. I'm not sore after running this morning for about 50 minutes. I guess my hip flexors are coming back slowly. I should be fine for 10/12.

**Sparky** · 09-21-2008, 04:44 PM

Originally Posted by valleygirl

I don't think I'll have a problem w/the flatness... will I?

I doubt it (might be boring if you like running in the hills though!)

Originally Posted by skiaholik

Others have anything to add?

Only that from what I have heard and read I would agree with you. As far as racing goes I've been told that runners who train on the flat get a surprise in the hills, whereas mountain runners are often beaten on the flat by flat runners. However Valleygirl seems to be doing plenty of miles so I doubt stamina and fitness would be a concern.

Originally Posted by valleygirl

might be time for new shoes... how many miles do you guys put on 'em?

About 300-400 (that may be a bit too many)

Good luck at the weekend Shorey/Herbs, let this woman inspire you: Helene Diamantides, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helene_Diamantides , if you finished Feet in the Clouds, you would know! Drink loads and eat, bail out if your legs blow up, i will still sponsor you. Rather you than me bro

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**valleygirl** · 09-22-2008, 04:00 AM

Sparky -- yes boring is my biggest concern as the road is long & straight -- bleah. And no music allowed so I'll be stuck inside my head thinking "Egad this is boring..."

And...

Time for new shoes.

**squirrel** · 09-22-2008, 06:55 PM

Steve - good work registering for the RR100. It's a good race and I've run on this trails, they are nice, maybe a little frosty in Feb. Good luck to all in the VT 50 mile. You can do it I'm much older than most of you and just completed the Angeles Crest 100 mile in 30:40.
Run fee!