ON3P SKIS Discussion

[jackattack]

I love the Bodacious when there is space to open it up and charging down steeps, but sometimes wish it were a bit nimbler in trees.

You answered your own question.

But really, you should hold out for a 193 supergoat or OG 191 BG.

[Dshack89]

Picked up a pair of pre-asym 189 BG 116s last night and was JRA when I totally blew up 1 of the skis today...ripped out the heel piece and cracked the ski under the toe piece. Glad to avoid any injuries but kinda bummed to not even make it a day!

If anybody has a single BG that might work for me lemme know (yes I checked the pinned thread already)!



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[phatty]

Picked up a pair of pre-asym 189 BG 116s last night and was JRA when I totally blew up 1 of the skis today...ripped out the heel piece and cracked the ski under the toe piece. Glad to avoid any injuries but kinda bummed to not even make it a day!

If anybody has a single BG that might work for me lemme know (yes I checked the pinned thread already)!



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Were those the ones off KSL? No wonder the seller started ghosting me. [emoji23][emoji24]

[Dshack89]

^ Haha yup!

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[Lee Murian]

I’ve got a pair of BG tours (thanks Eluder!) I’m planning to put a pair of ATK freeraiders on.

Question on mount point. I usually go at cc but on a pair of Backland 107’s I find them too forward or too much ramp angle at cord center.

I ski pretty traditional weight forward and this will be for pow touring Japan trip and PNW home skiing. Boots are Hojis and Radical pro.

Thanks! Stoked on our fx this week!


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[adrenalated]

I’ve got a pair of BG tours (thanks Eluder!) I’m planning to put a pair of ATK freeraiders on.

Question on mount point. I usually go at cc but on a pair of Backland 107’s I find them too forward or too much ramp angle at cord center.

I ski pretty traditional weight forward and this will be for pow touring Japan trip and PNW home skiing. Boots are Hojis and Radical pro.

Thanks! Stoked on our fx this week!


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On the line, only on the line, and nowhere but the line.

Cord center is not a good method for mounting modern skis.

[Norseman]

x2, shape is already directional and the line is in the right spot

[Lee Murian]

On the line, only on the line, and nowhere but the line.

Cord center is not a good method for mounting modern skis.

My bad, I meant on the line. That's my plan. Thanks

[PowTron]

On the line, only on the line, and nowhere but the line.

Cord center is not a good method for mounting modern skis.

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[CascadeLuke]

Picked up a pair of pre-asym 189 BG 116s last night and was JRA when I totally blew up 1 of the skis today...ripped out the heel piece and cracked the ski under the toe piece. Glad to avoid any injuries but kinda bummed to not even make it a day!

If anybody has a single BG that might work for me lemme know (yes I checked the pinned thread already)!

What the what?!

I came here after a hiatus to say the BG110 is criminally underrated. They delivered on a bangin opener with a cold 18”+
The packed down runs back to the lift are way more edg’able on these bad cats [emoji1598]

[BeHuWe]

Really? Send the woods my way. I'm looking for 102 Woods 187s and can't find anything that's not near full price.

I see tons of Jeffs for sale in CO and UT.

I’ve got 187 110 woods for sale in GS if you’re interested…


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[SupreChicken]

Don’t know who needs to hear this. But the old bear claw 191 billy goat is still king

[eSock]

So happy to get back on the Billy goats today. They make me a better skier [emoji23]

[phatty]

Don’t know who needs to hear this. But the old bear claw 191 billy goat is still king

Keep telling Iggy so we can get a custom run of the old ski.

[2FUNKY]

Don’t know who needs to hear this. But the old bear claw 191 billy goat is still king

Have you skied the new 187?


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[2FUNKY]

Keep telling Iggy so we can get a custom run of the old ski.

Meh, the new 187 is a much better/dialed ski.


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[PNW-skier78]

I'm starting to build a quiver for the first time as a bigger guy (6'2", 210#). I live in Seattle and primarily ski Alpental, Crystal, and Baker. I currently have an older Bodacious 196, and have some of Marshall's R99's on order but I remain Billy Goat curious (especially with all the deals available on 192's right now). I struggle to identify when I would choose a BG over the Bodacious or the other way around. I love the Bodacious when there is space to open it up and charging down steeps, but sometimes wish it were a bit nimbler in trees.

Can anyone with time on both help me understand where they each excel? Would there be too much overlap to have both in a 3-4 ski quiver?

I own both they are pretty different skis.

The billygoat is way looser and is much better in deeper snow. It is the best ski I have ever owned for PNW tree skiing. It is pretty stable in 3D snow but my favorite 2 inches of dust on crust. Note the billygoat I own is asym which is one generation prior to the current.

I feel like the bodacious is more of a wide all mountain ski that handles fresh snow pretty well than a true powder ski. Billygoat doesn’t handle wind scraped ridges as well as the bodacious but the bodacious does float or turn as easily wo some speed and pitch.




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[phatty]

Meh, the new 187 is a much better/dialed ski.


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Can't speak for the 187 but have the current 192 and it isn't as good as the 191 in coastal snow pack. It was great in continental, but most anything would be. For Silver, I'm sure the 187 is great. For Alpy/Stevens, the 191 is still king.

[2FUNKY]

Can't speak for the 187 but have the current 192 and it isn't as good as the 191 in coastal snow pack. It was great in continental, but most anything would be. For Silver, I'm sure the 187 is great. For Alpy/Stevens, the 191 is still king.

Skied the 187 in some upside down Alpyesque mank at the Schwizz. It blew me away at how much better it is. Way better ski than the 191. The 192 is off according to others and the 187 is dialed. They were not wrong. You need to ski the 187 man. If I didn’t already have plenty of rad skis in that slot it would of been added last year.


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[CascadeLuke]

Digging the 187s very much as noted above. It’s great that people are happy with many variants. News flash: #goatsaregood

[phatty]

Skied the 187 in some upside down Alpyesque mank at the Schwizz. It blew me away at how much better it is. Way better ski than the 191. The 192 is off according to others and the 187 is dialed. They were not wrong. You need to ski the 187 man. If I didn’t already have plenty of rad skis in that slot it would of been added last year.


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I'd definitely like to try the 187. I'm getting my 192s tuned to make sure that isn't the issue and plan to give them more time. The 191 was a revelation for me just like the Protest for you . I'm still keeping my eyes open for any 191s that come up for sale and would still love to see a custom run. I'm sure there's at least 50 mags who'd be down for that.

[MHSP1497]

I own both they are pretty different skis.

The billygoat is way looser and is much better in deeper snow. It is the best ski I have ever owned for PNW tree skiing. It is pretty stable in 3D snow but my favorite 2 inches of dust on crust. Note the billygoat I own is asym which is one generation prior to the current.

I feel like the bodacious is more of a wide all mountain ski that handles fresh snow pretty well than a true powder ski. Billygoat doesn’t handle wind scraped ridges as well as the bodacious but the bodacious does float or turn as easily wo some speed and pitch.




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Feel the same way here, the Billygoat is simply amazing in tight PNW trees (off Molly’s at T-Line for example). It floats, pivots, cuts, blasts, crushes and bulldozes any snow condition. I like the shape so much in fact, that I now ski my Cease & Desists (same design, just wider, also asym) as a DD anytime there is any new snow at all. I sold my ‘goats because I simply didn’t ride them as I was always on the C&D in that use-case. For touring, I ride ‘goats because of all that’s been said. Now, I ride the 108’s and really, really like them in PNW backcountry. They ski exactly like I expect and punch above their class in pow.

You really can’t go wrong with Billygoats in the PNW, it’s like they were designed for the snow here, tested here or something.

[2FUNKY]

I'd definitely like to try the 187. I'm getting my 192s tuned to make sure that isn't the issue and plan to give them more time. The 191 was a revelation for me just like the Protest for you . I'm still keeping my eyes open for any 191s that come up for sale and would still love to see a custom run. I'm sure there's at least 50 mags who'd be down for that.

Probably and that would be cool as well!
The protest wasn’t really a revelation as the Spatula was. Protest took that shape and made it more friendly lift served, exactly what I always wanted the Spats to be for that use.
So many good skis today it’s unreal!


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[2FUNKY]

Digging the 187s very much as noted above. It’s great that people are happy with many variants. News flash: #goatsaregood

Whoa, hey man! You coming to the INW Meat up?


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[beeeom]

Logged in for the first time in what feels like years and just want to quote this for truth.


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You should mount @ +1.5