Trucks.

[Conundrum]

What year is your Landcruiser? Might be worth looking at progressive springs or you can put airbags in. You need to keep air in them at all times (don't run at 0 PSI) and it could stiffen the unloaded ride up a touch but shouldn't be bad.

[Mazderati]

A saggy ass is unfortunately common with age.

[jackattack]

When loaded with family, dog, and desert camping gear (meaning lots of water and extra fuel), our land cruiser is a bit saggy in the rear and I can feel it when off-road (gravel cruising or slow, high clearance, 4lo stuff). Similar performance when hauling other heavy loads and towing heavy-ish stuff (e.g. firewood). It feels good when not as loaded down.

Do you increase tire pressure for the increased payload? Proper inflation will likely make a noticeable difference. You should be able to get inflation tables from the tire manufacturer.

[bodywhomper]

What year is your Landcruiser? Might be worth looking at progressive springs or you can put airbags in. You need to keep air in them at all times (don't run at 0 PSI) and it could stiffen the unloaded ride up a touch but shouldn't be bad.

thanks

it's a 1999 100-series. other than a large aftermarket rack that I installed, it's stock, from a weight standpoint. I need to look at service records closely again from the PO to see when/if he replaced the previous shocks. he was pretty anal with OEM and maintaining at a great baseline (which was nice).

change in springs should also require change in shocks, too, right?

when in the death valley environs a few weeks ago, we had day-to-day comparison of performance off road between fully loaded with all gear and loaded only with family and day trip stuff. i wouldn't mind a little sportier handling, but am concerned that my young passengers in the back seat and jump seat would get grumpy, especially when offroad with a light load (day trip stuff).

cheers

[bodywhomper]

Do you increase tire pressure for the increased payload? Proper inflation will likely make a noticeable difference. You should be able to get inflation tables from the tire manufacturer.

thanks, i understand the correlation, and that's a good point. if anything, i'd be airing down for offroad for increased traction, which i didn't do. i'm using c-rate tires.

[Conundrum]

You would only replace shocks if the ride height changed, they were blown out, or you wanted to tailor the performance of the shocks. I'd call these guys for springs: http://sleeoffroad.com/products/susp...es_springs.htm They can keep the stock height or increase it. You could also look at Timbrens: http://sleeoffroad.com/products/products_timbren.htm

Best advice, call Slee up and tell them your goal. If you are in the SLC area, Kurt at Cruiser Outfitters is a good resource too.

Edit-get some D rated tires the next time you're in the market.

[bodywhomper]

^^ thanks

ETA: i had not heard of the timbren system before. much more expensive than the air bags.... but....

[mooseknuckles]

+1 for Christo and Amory at Slee. It might be as simple as swapping your bumpstops like Conundrum mentioned. If you are not on ih8mud check out all the info there for sure.

[bodywhomper]

Thanks. I've been looking there, too. After reading more on bumper stops, not sure that'd solve my problem. I wasn't bottoming out the rear, just sagging lots under load. Though the potential of bottoming out definitely increases when sagging.

I agree talking to real people that do this for a living and are cruiser people would be useful.

[Dantheman]

Spotted this rig in Green River last weekend. Pretty epic. The driver was a grizzled pot-bellied old dude who matched the truck perfectly.

[MagnificentUnicorn]

Spotted this rig in Green River last weekend. Pretty epic. The driver was a grizzled pot-bellied old dude who matched the truck perfectly.

Hayduke lives!

[Conundrum]

^^^ That's one way to get through life. But hey man, your driver front door is ajar.

[Skidog]

International harvester scouts are awesome. Full top comes off... Lots of power too.

[exsparky]

You can buy mine. It was the worst mistake of my life.

1976 scout 350 miles on it
edelbrock chevy 350-375hp
18" coil overs
Dynatrac D60's, arbs 35 spline 1.5" shafts
atlas t case
1450 joints
37" ssr tires
bead locks
custom sliders, bumpers, tire mount
custom everything
2 tops
lots of extra junk

$40k and I will smile when you drive it off.

[Skidog]

Got one waiting to be finished back east. Bout same engine. She's been sitting a while.

[iceman]

Got one waiting to be finished back east. Bout same engine. She's been sitting a while.

If you decide you aren't gonna get to it give me a shout, I'd think about it pretty hard. Love Scouts. I saw one with a for sale on it when I was driving up the road to the store last fall, it was on the other side of the road so I thought I'd stop and see it on the way back, when I got back a half-hour later they were loading it on a flatbed. I assume it must have sold earlier but I was all wtf?

[BmillsSkier]

Spotted this rig in Green River last weekend. Pretty epic. The driver was a grizzled pot-bellied old dude who matched the truck perfectly.

Is that trailer custom?

[VTeton]

A little excited for the 2018 Gator that comes with the Raptor engine. Having had both the Expedition and the Tahoe, it looks like Lincoln might finally take some of Chevy/Caddy's market share. Do a tune and rock over 500hp.

https://www.google.com/amp/truckyeah...1794242737/amp

[Jethro]

I had a 1969 scout in the early 90's. It was the original scout, with a tin can roof and no roll cage in it. It came with a V8 and an inline 4. I had the four cylinder version. It was great off-road, not so much on the highway.

[DoWork]

^^^ That's one way to get through life. But hey man, your driver front door is ajar.

That's not a jar it's a flag

[Moeghoul]

Spotted this rig in Green River last weekend. Pretty epic. The driver was a grizzled pot-bellied old dude who matched the truck perfectly.

Worth bumping just to stare and see things you missed the last time you looked. Is that a moonroof being propped open with milk crates?

[kootenayskier]

Time to replace my 1998 F150 4x4 work truck (300,000km and with multiple expensive repairs on the horizon). Pretty similar spec, mileage (90,000km) and asking price on a 2010 F150 with a 4.6lt V8 and a 2012 Sierra 1500 with a 5.3lt V8. Other than the post trade-in and negotiations price, any reason to chose either?

[TAFKALVS]

Time to replace my 1998 F150 4x4 work truck (300,000km and with multiple expensive repairs on the horizon). Pretty similar spec, mileage (90,000km) and asking price on a 2010 F150 with a 4.6lt V8 and a 2012 Sierra 1500 with a 5.3lt V8. Other than the post trade-in and negotiations price, any reason to chose either?

Chevy because I like them better.

[DoWork]

Chevy because I like them better.

In the 150/1500 class chevy is the no brainer IMO all things similar- those aren't work trucks they're drivers and chevy makes a better driver. More comfy, better ride and cabins are way out in front of ford.

I tend to go the other way once you get to 250/2500 and up, but to each his own.

[ncskier]

In the 150/1500 class chevy is the no brainer IMO all things similar- those aren't work trucks they're drivers and chevy makes a better driver. More comfy, better ride and cabins are way out in front of ford.

I tend to go the other way once you get to 250/2500 and up, but to each his own.

I just sold a 2010 ford with the 5.4. Chevy rides like an old man truck if thats your things and they are about 2" off the ground if you need ground clearance, go ford. Not to mention that 5.3 with cylinder deactivation will have you consuming oil like crazy. So if you are an old soft short man who like to burn oil and roughly the same rate as gasoline, go Chevy. The ford interior is much nicer, has higher ground clearance and the motor will last forever if not a little underpowered. Plus it will have better gearing unlike the chevy