ON3P SKIS Discussion

**abraham** · 10-24-2016, 01:00 PM

Have you tried the new ski? I didn't find it lacking when I tried it.

**TahoeJ** · 10-24-2016, 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by aevergreene

Honestly, if On3p makes a big charger ski next year, ill for sure put down a deposit. There might be 10 guys on here who will buy a pair, maybe 5 guys from NS. 2 from Epic.

Like others have said, start a group thread and see what kind of interest you can generate.

**2FUNKY** · 10-24-2016, 01:40 PM

Originally Posted by aevergreene

Well than ill ask how moment and praxis did/do it, and get back to you

Maybe i should just lose 25 lbs..

Put together a group buy of your beefmaster, as has been suggested in here may times. That will solve your issue than this thread can get back on track.

**Island Bay** · 10-24-2016, 02:09 PM

This guy seems happy with his BGs. Not sure what he weighs, but he skis like a demon.

http://snowbrains.com/dennis-risvoll...ndaz-fwq-2015/

Not sure why the second video doesn't embed.

**XavierD** · 10-24-2016, 10:18 PM

Originally Posted by aevergreene

Honestly, if On3p makes a big charger ski next year, ill for sure put down a deposit. There might be 10 guys on here who will buy a pair, maybe 5 guys from NS. 2 from Epic.

all these forums are the same two dozen people.

**ScrewYou** · 10-25-2016, 10:42 AM

I love how On3p is making fun of this on their Instagram..

I'll put a video up comparing the HEAD Monster 108 to my 191 Wrenegade 113. The wren is literally a noodle in comparison.. hell, the monster 98 is burlier and heavier than a Wrenegade 113.. not even in the same ballpark, it's not even close.

I just wish On3p made the new Wren somewhere in between what it is now, and the monster or Pro Rider. The 184 monsters are much more ski than the Wrenegade, nvm the 191cm HEAD..

**SeatownSlackey** · 10-25-2016, 10:49 AM

Originally Posted by aevergreene

Big but still athletic.

Interesting way to describe your head.

**ScrewYou** · 10-25-2016, 11:00 AM

Im actually a bodybuilder.

I just didnt tell you guys because I was afraid of what youd generalize about me..

Seriously though, I dont think I could be more stoked on a ski than I am on my new Cease and Desists!!

**klauss** · 10-25-2016, 11:19 AM

Originally Posted by aevergreene

I love how On3p is making fun of this on their Instagram..

I'll put a video up comparing the HEAD Monster 108 to my 191 Wrenegade 113. The wren is literally a noodle in comparison.. hell, the monster 98 is burlier and heavier than a Wrenegade 113.. not even in the same ballpark, it's not even close.

I just wish On3p made the new Wren somewhere in between what it is now, and the monster or Pro Rider. The 184 monsters are much more ski than the Wrenegade, nvm the 191cm HEAD..

When did you pick up 191 wrens? You were just looking to buy mine. I weigh over two hundy and am confident I can charge it switch to the road at a superior level of intensity than you?

You'll know its me on the jackson tram by my red boots with booster straps rocking the same din as this guy. The skis are plenty burly.

Have you actually skied them yet?

**ScrewYou** · 10-25-2016, 07:52 PM

Originally Posted by klauss

When did you pick up 191 wrens? You were just looking to buy mine. I weigh over two hundy and am confident I can charge it switch to the road at a superior level of intensity than you?

You'll know its me on the jackson tram by my red boots with booster straps rocking the same din as this guy. The skis are plenty burly.

Have you actually skied them yet?

I got a used pair of 191 wren 113s like a month ago. I paid a lot for them, but I'm glad I finally got a pair. Ive desired 191 wrens for a few seasons now. They seem like awesome powder/chop chargers, and thats what ill use them for. When it gets firm, i bet its still fun, but i bought the monster 108 for firmer off piste charging. I very rarely buy skis thinner than 105mm. My steeple 102s are only so thin to save weight, otherwise i go fatter for stability inbounds, since im fat...

No, i have not skied the monster 108s or these specific wrens yet. I was basing those terms on hand flexing my pairs of 191s, and reading blisters review of the 181 wren 113, and 184 monster 108, which both measure 182cm with a straight tape pull.

I left out a ton of info. I think for Jackson, hands down the wren would be better. I encountered a lot of tight spots in Jackson, and although the mountain is bigger than the ones here in Tahoe, I find myself straight-lining much more here by the Lake. Im also a better skier now, but the trees here are so much more spaced, and the Billy Goat(my favorite ski) is almost too easy in these old growth trees.. the wren will be a perfect do it all charger here.

Whereas the monster 108 will be for nuking firm, open terrain. Its much heavier, it has much more camber, further aft mount point, and you can tell its just a "pissed off" ski for absolutely obliterating the mountain. Its almost like a fat race ski.. it only measures 188.5cm though. I think its pretty stupid how a company like HEAD, or Line skis since im on this topic, can make a ski almost 3cm short.

I will always pick the construction of On3p over anything else. The Fit and finish is second to none. Im sure they could find a way to build an absolute beefmaster, without using metal or graphene.

All I need now is a pair of Rax..

**auvgeek** · 10-25-2016, 08:08 PM

^^You really should stop making such prolific statements about skis you have yet to ski.

**ScrewYou** · 10-25-2016, 08:17 PM

What did i say that was off? Feel free to slap me across the face, since i am speculating. Ill be happy to hear the wrens are somehow burlier..

Im only making strong statements because I had to pay for these things, and justify the overlap to myself. I speak my mind. Maybe a little too much.

**shroom** · 10-25-2016, 09:00 PM

report back with vertically-oriented go-pro footage in a few months.

if you care about your rep

**2FUNKY** · 10-25-2016, 09:14 PM

Originally Posted by shroom

report back with vertically-oriented go-pro footage in a few months.

if you care about your rep

Head mount, not that shitty nothing but knees chest mount chit.

**ScrewYou** · 10-25-2016, 09:45 PM

My rep with whom? Who are you guys? I maxed out my PayPal credit account, just to impress you guys, you caught me.

What I'm trying to accomplish, is showing On3p that there is some demand for bigger skis. People do buy them. I know I'm not the only one. On3p is my favorite brand, why aren't I allowed to try?

What did I ever say about my skiing ability, so I make sure to back it up.. I'm a big guy, I need big skis, what's so hard to get? I do ski very hard too, rarely below 45mph, and the forces I put on my skis are substantial, but I do not huck meat. I keep my skis closer than 20ft to the ground.

I currently do not own a GoPro, but probably will get one this season, or I will use my Brothers somehow. Maybe TahoeJay will vouch for me, after he sees me and my sister tearing Squaw a new ass this season. Honestly, I don't know how to film jack.. I gotta get someone else to help

**Shu Shu** · 10-25-2016, 09:57 PM

Originally Posted by aevergreene

All I need now is a pair of Rax..

Straight lining entire mountains on a Monster 108 at 75mph doesn't take a whole lot of skill. Straight lining entire mountains on a pair of Rax....thats some mandatory Go Pro viewing.

**shroom** · 10-25-2016, 10:03 PM

this site is all about rep

Originally Posted by XavierD

all these forums are the same two dozen people.

people know my mullet when they see it

**neck beard** · 10-25-2016, 10:06 PM

Originally Posted by aevergreene

I do ski very hard too, rarely below 45mph ... but I do not huck meat. I keep my skis closer than 20ft to the ground.

Lindhal 2.0

**ScrewYou** · 10-25-2016, 10:12 PM

With extra mayonnaise..

**Norseman** · 10-25-2016, 10:32 PM

... when you came on yourself describing your super duper skiing? There is no further need for that jive. Your point has been made. Let us move this thread in another direction.

Do you guys know exactly where your bamboo is grown? Just curious.

**undertow2** · 10-26-2016, 05:23 AM

Originally Posted by neck beard

Lindhal 2.0

My thought exactly...!

**tenB** · 10-26-2016, 11:10 AM

You can order ON3P skis with custom lay ups, topsheets, sidewalls, wood grain, all of which takes some degree of customization. I'm sure its not too hard to make a 193/120 Billygoat using the same press as the Cease & Desist press which was already built.

The BG went from 191/118 to 189/116. Many of us wish it had gone the other direction, especially as a pnw ski.

I'm a fan and a loyal local customer. Constructive feedback around here really seems to really bring out the dick waggers.

**optics** · 10-26-2016, 11:34 AM

not to be a dick...but I kinda like the idea of someone walking around the factory floor and showing the people who actually make these skis this quote... the "sure it's not too hard to..." part - and recording their reactions.

Speaking as someone who works in a similar kind of manufacturing process (different industry), that "must be easy to..." stuff never is, unless it's purely additive (extra layer of carbon) or A-for-B swaps (green sidewalls). When you start changing the baseline manufacturing parameters - like shape - it's messy in a hurry, and disruptive in a way that costs way more money than the margin can recoup.

**XavierD** · 10-26-2016, 11:42 AM

I have owned or skied all the 'burly' skis over the years. MOJO/IM103, XXL, Big Dump, Bodacious, RC112, B-Squad, Race room LP, Wren, Cochise, Dictator ... All in the 190-200 length. I had a custom pair of OG 191 Wrens with a softer overall flex. Plenty fucking stable.

I'd like a list of people who have skied a 191 Wrenegade and thought it lacked stability?
and then skied the Monster 108 in heavy consolidated snow and thought it wasn't a total piece of shit.

**ScrewYou** · 10-26-2016, 12:14 PM

My previous points were focused on the new wren 108. Im not buying a 108mm ski for sticky, maritime mank.. i have BGs, C&Ds or steeples for that.

The wren 108 is not as much a charger, what its billed as, as others in the market..you dont have to go to the sun to tell its hot.. i personally buy 108mm skis for firm conditions, but maybe thats just me

I think im allowed to criticize, i have personally bought and skied over 10 pairs of On3ps in the past 3 years..

Im ready to move on. This is the only obstacle ive ever encountered in my On3p wants and desires, so 1 out of 12 isnt so bad... but i will defend my cause if people keep bringing it up. Im fat and it would be nice for the wren series too have a longer, burlier 194 length added to the 98s and 108s, and add a 189 length to the wren 88.