Tuckerman Mini!!!

**Doremite** · 03-05-2008, 09:56 AM

Originally Posted by strawjack

55 degrees...i don't think its that steep. maybe for a very short section...one or two turns.

afraid...yes, twice out of about 75 runs up there. once solo above the chute when it was solid ice. i had traversed over into it not knowing...stupid move. second time was when a vw size ice block fell about 15' from me and a couple other guys. that scared the shit out of us! that would have been instant death.

I was joking on the scared part. Lines up there can be terrifying and vertigo inducing. Serious stuff and, yes, at least based on what I've read (didn't pull out an inclinometer up there) some of the headwall lines approach 55 degrees. Not to mention the "mellow" 800+ foot 45 degree apron you're either maching (airing) into or cartwheeling down once you've surpassed the headwall. Good old fashion scare yourself on skis fun.

**RustyK** · 03-05-2008, 10:53 AM

Still have never done this. Need the check in the box.
Your only another year older when you do it.
Could be tough driving over from the "K".
Will have to start getting some more people into it.

**willywhit** · 03-05-2008, 11:23 AM

Originally Posted by strawjack

55 degrees...i don't think its that steep. maybe for a very short section...one or two turns.

afraid...yes, twice out of about 75 runs up there. once solo above the chute when it was solid ice. i had traversed over into it not knowing...stupid move. second time was when a vw size ice block fell about 15' from me and a couple other guys. that scared the shit out of us! that would have been instant death.

skeered ? only 2 at a time in VG's hot tub

**Diamond Joe** · 03-05-2008, 12:38 PM

Just saw this thread and am definitely interested in a trip up to mt Washington to hike and ski and party with some like-minded peeps, just have a couple of questions;

Originally Posted by DaveTV

Too bad we didn't have a huge house next to a great rock 'n roll pub that sleeps 40+ that people could stay at for like $15 a head - lemme rack my brain...

where is this place? and
why am I the only one who doesnt know about it/has asked about it?

I'll definitely come, and bring at least 1 more. Probably do a friday drive up/drink/sleep into a saturday hike/ski/drink/ski more maybe/ski down the sherburne/drink more/sleep into a sunday shitty long ride home type thang. Would bring money, whiskey, and women. Well... probably just whiskey and money actually. maybe 1 woman. but shed probably be taken.

Oh, and I'd throw a vote for a later (may) date, too.. (as a couple others have said) I've only been twice, but tucks + warm weather= fun and tucks+ cold shitty weather= not so fun. Plus all the snow were getting this year will set up better later on..(although what does my JONG ass know?

) Im IN either way.

**RobT** · 03-05-2008, 05:00 PM

Sounds like a great time. Unfortunately I won't be there until the next weekend. But I'll be there the 19-21 with some non-mag, but like minded people if anybody will be there the next weekend.

Not to be Johnny Come-lately here, but I think cornelius/soda/pin/40 pint/whatever you want to call them kegs might be a better bet than a half barrel/full keg/16 gal/whatever you want to call it keg. I've spend lots of time moving kegs, and soda kegs kill it for transport and packing imo. I think they would ride nicely on sleds, but have never tried. I know for sure they do well on your back, in rafts, on snowcats, on luggage racks on snowmobiles, on pack saddles, in a box and with a fox.

Rob

**steeplechamp** · 03-05-2008, 06:21 PM

Originally Posted by danhikeski

just back read the thread, no, I'm not a member of the Appalachian Money Club. Harvard Cabin is 15 bucks a night even if you are the only one there, 15 total (I think) To bad they won't be open for the mini. Dodge Lodge is like 50 a night, good option for the non-winter campers.

Just to let you know, Harvard Cabin is 15 dollars a head. Not total. And there are tent platforms but its 10 dollars to use those, however you do get to use the cabin...it's quite small, and it does shut down april 1st...so its def. not that great of an option for your plans.

**EC_the_tash** · 03-06-2008, 06:40 AM

Date's set... enough nay saying... the beer's taken care of... the weather can be bad, but it's not gonna be, I checked on the interweb... the headwall's steep, some other shit's steep... none of us are going to get drunk and ski unless it's a money booter in the bowl, but who skis the bowl... btw, the DATE IS SET... enough nay saying!!!

**Natedogg** · 03-06-2008, 10:09 AM

Pipe down jong.

**maskinut** · 03-06-2008, 05:25 PM

I'm planning to hit Tux on 4/19-4/20 with a few others from here.

**Alioops** · 03-06-2008, 07:47 PM

I have never skied/hiked Tuxs, therefore my opinion may be nil. When I was living elsewhere, I heard so much about the place and always wanted to ski it, but I was also warned about those that came up not prepared for the backcountry, but for a party.

I have received an email that reiterated my concerns (edited since the email was sent from a friend of a friend and they are not my pics):

"I wanted to share a quick diversion for you and anyone you think may be
interested:

Last weekend's snowfall resulted in avalanche activity that hasn't been
seen in a while in Tuckerman Ravine: connection cache was completely
buried by debris from a slide in the bowl, and it came mighty close to running
over the little headwall. ....... said he called ........, and ........said
he'd only seen connection buried once in his 42 years on the hill, and
that was in the legendary winter of '69. He said that .......... had told
him he'd only seen it happen once, and that was in the 1940's. Anyway, for
people who love snow we think it's pretty cool to see this kind of
natural force at work. Check out the photos from March 3 at:

http://www.tuckerman.org/photos/tucks/

I don't have a summer picture of the location handy for comparison, but
rest assured that's alot of snow - and it ran a long ways!

Take care,"

Maybe I am a bit over concerned, but a few thoughts have entered my mind even before I received this email and opinions from people at AMC.

1) Should we consider changing the date?

2) Do we have beacons for the kegs????

**valleygirl** · 03-07-2008, 05:20 AM

A., way to pull that punch w/the keg-beacons...

Sort of took the heat out of the concerns voiced earlier in the evening by all of us. I am one who has "gone up w/the lounge chair" but with the education I've had thru TGR and others I have to say I wouldn't go w/out a beacon again (not that Ali would let me).

Can't help but feel all parental about the whole keg thing as while I know practically none of you, I do know that drinking can get out of hand -- and even if it doesn't, if the shit hits the fan, will everyone have their A-game to help even just themselves get out of a bad situation? There are those, up there...

Not TRYING to be a wet blanket, but looking for fun, frolic, and a definite dearth of death...

A. Rafe said on the way home "Mom they are soooo awesome..." Hm, wonder where THAT came from...?

**EC_the_tash** · 03-07-2008, 06:11 AM

Originally Posted by Natedogg

Pipe down jong.

ok, thanks
PM me for results

**willywhit** · 03-07-2008, 08:25 AM

Originally Posted by valleygirl

Can't help but feel all parental about the whole keg thing as while I know practically none of you, I do know that drinking can get out of hand -- and even if it doesn't, if the shit hits the fan, will everyone have their A-game to help even just themselves get out of a bad situation? There are those, up there...

Not TRYING to be a wet blanket, but looking for fun, frolic, and a definite dearth of death...

A. Rafe said on the way home "Mom they are soooo awesome..." Hm, wonder where THAT came from...?

cuz Rafe knows that BIG Kids make the best kinda parents

maybe we can lure ya up to the Ravine with some Sunset Wheat ?
I thought you'd get a kick out of the redneck hot tub, no ?
I had some Gonzo brew on the way back from SR last week, wicked tasty.
http://flyingdogales.com/beer-specialty-gonzo.asp
We'll be safe , mom, WE Promise !!!

psyched for a boston throw down this weekend....feelin' Irie ish

wearing green. smokin' green and some green beer,

guinness & jameson !!!

**Natedogg** · 03-07-2008, 08:32 AM

Originally Posted by willywhit

Oh jesus...

What Boston throwdown is going on this w/e? Isn't St. Paddy's still a week away???

**willywhit** · 03-07-2008, 08:39 AM

WHEN?
that hat was $1 at Target last night

couldn't resist

Friday, March 7, 5:30 to 11:00 pm (Doors close at 9:30 pm)
Saturday, March 8, 2:00 to 9:00 PM (Doors close at 7:30 PM)
Come early - Limited capacity! Rain or shine.

WHERE?

Here at our Boston brewery. 306 Northern Ave., Boston.

WHAT ELSE?

$15 cover charge includes souvenir cup. Cash bar.
You must be 21 years or older with proper ID to attend.
http://www.harpoonbrewery.com/index....4550749&mc=624
http://news.webshots.com/photo/21576...GEo?vhost=news
Nate ! STP are gonna be at the River Rave !!!! We're there brutha !!!! Wicked !!!

**willywhit** · 03-07-2008, 08:54 AM

Originally Posted by Natedogg

St. Paddy's still a week away???

true dat
http://www.southieparade.org/

http://www.southieparade.org/map.htm

**Tuckerman** · 03-07-2008, 09:05 AM

I also like to go up around 4/20. I have some friends that go at that time every year. Some spots are 55 degrees.

**Doremite** · 03-07-2008, 10:09 AM

^^^^^ Such as Line 7, for example.

For those who may not have seen this (designed by a friend and I contributed some content). Good beginner guide to Tucks.

Mouse over routes in the Bowl and Hillmans for descriptions and pics. Enjoy.

http://www.firstchairmag.com/bc/tucks/routes.html

**willywhit** · 03-07-2008, 12:35 PM

doremite,
it just dawned on me that I met you & the wife at the TGR Roxy party. See the Roll Call thread, just sent a PM to ya

**Doremite** · 03-07-2008, 12:53 PM

I recall. I was a bit s'canned but recall. Check your PMs.

**H-man** · 03-07-2008, 02:22 PM

My .02?

Tucks is fun but Tucks is and can be dangerous and deadly. I plan to go up to ski. I will have my full compliment of backcountry touring gear including full avalanche equipment. I will drink a couple of beers, but I won't get out of hand. I have a lot of reasons for this, but foremost is safety. I should qualify that this statement is fully dependent on weather and avalanche conditions. If I don't feel it is safe to be in even the bowl, I would choose not to go any hire than Hojo's.

In regards to the date, It is just like any other backcountry location as who knows what it is going to be like at that particular time. Normal avalanche protocol needs to be followed in deciding if it is smart to go up there and then even where it is safe to ski or for that matter sit on that specific day. Traditionally, this is a relatively safe time frame, but this is a way different year snow pack wise. Most people up there have absolutely no clue what so ever could and has happened up there and they will not give it a second thought.

Personal responsibility.

EDIT: Even if avalanche conditions are good, falling ice is always an issue also. I have seen pieces the size of VW's come off the headwall and make it all the way to the floor and entrance into the bowl.

**Doremite** · 03-07-2008, 02:27 PM

No problem for me ripping the Sherby after a few brews, but no way in hell I'm drinking before skiing the Ravine or Hillmans or what not. I'm with the H-Man. Can be dicey in them their hills and the avy activity this year has been off the charts. Will mellow of course as spring rolls in. ...but who knows? Last April was crazy snow-wise. I'd love to be up there for the mag summit, but will all depend on whether stable conditions and the right weather window coincide.

**willywhit** · 03-07-2008, 02:29 PM

does that mean that the yodelling contest is off ?
I mean with all the avalanche danger and all ?

**snowsprite** · 03-07-2008, 02:37 PM

Great link showing all the routes, Doremite...thanks!

Sprite

**DEVO** · 03-07-2008, 02:45 PM

Was anyone planning on drinking and then skiing?? I always assumed we were talking about skiing for the day then drinking back at the shelters for the evening. So, who is planning on staying up at the shelters for at least Friday night? Might be a good idea to start getting a head count. I am in for staying up there. (that is unless the apres ski party is down in the valley)

People staying at Hermit lake Friday night: 1