Private School or Public School

[californiagrown]

CaliforniaGrown- I think you are Puget Sound based? We have twin boys, seniors in LWSD, one has a shit load of homework each night, the other has time to get most of his done during school day. The one with the shitload of homework is taking a couple more demanding classes. So, I guess my summary for you is a) homework is still a thing b)depends heavily on the class

We will be in Northshore, but the neighbor i referenced teaches in LWSD. What you described sounds more realistic. I dont see how you can learn math without outside work, do chemistry without outside study, or do english/writing classes with outside reading and writing for example. As for doing homework during school, i never had the chance. I had class, and any free period was always scheduled at the end of the day to support my afterschool sports schedule.

[MarcusBrody]

My son has had homework for most of elementary school, but has less of it in 3rd grade than he did in 1-2. I think the district curriculum mandates some amount, but teachers lean into that in different ways. It's a terrible school district overall, though, so I don't know if that's a point for or against homework trends.

[irul&ublo]

Our kids started in private school until we figured out that a lot of the kids were there because they'd been kicked out of public. They wound up in public in an advanced program. The general level of their HS was pretty bad but their program insulated them from that. It didn't hurt that the school was an "inner city school" which probably gave them a leg up, so both got into Berkeley. Which is not as great a school for undergrads who aren't self motivated and neither of my kids were when it came to academics.

No Jesuit or Christian Brothers?


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[old goat]

Not good enough athletes. Maybe if Jesuit had a ski team. The one kid's golf team (McClatchy) did beat Jesuit in a match. And the other kid in water polo managed a goal against them. So very successful HS careers AFAIC.

[irul&ublo]

McClatchy “inner city”? There would be a lot of Land Park residents upset at that.


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[BCMtnHound]

Public. Throw 'em to the wolves and let them figure out how to deal.

This.

That said, we’re near the middle of nowhere so private means boarding here, so in with the hippies and red necks it is.
At least the local fundamentalists homeschool their kids.

[old goat]

I'd call all of Sac Unified inner city. Used to love it when the kids from the burbs came for swim and water polo meets and complained that the pool was too cold and the locker rooms too seedy. And of course a lot of those Land Park and Curtis Park folks sent their kids to private.

[irul&ublo]

Sac City Unified is pretty fucked up. I did some work for a very successful adult ed charter school, that Sac Unified wanted to partner with….offered us tons of money. Took a close look at their structure and leadership, and declined


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[Mazderati]

You will probably get a little more rigor at private schools around here, but you'll also be paying 25 to $40,000 a year. You may find sticking with public and supplementing with a tutor to push them a little further maybe the smartest option.

This is the exact scenario I debate long-term. Did you go the public + tutor route? If so, did you find tutors through the school or elsewhere? Multiple tutors for multiple subjects? Seems like a hassle logistically, but provides 1:1 interaction even private schools do not. And, biggly cheaper.

I am a public education idealist but the concerted effort to undermine the system is a reality, as is the impact of social networks on opportunity.

[riser4]

This.

That said, we’re near the middle of nowhere so private means boarding here, so in with the hippies and red necks it is.
At least the local fundamentalists homeschool their kids.

Do the rednecks and hippies interbreed there? In VT they did and we ended up with hipbillies.

[MagnificentUnicorn]

This is the exact scenario I debate long-term. Did you go the public + tutor route? If so, did you find tutors through the school or elsewhere? Multiple tutors for multiple subjects? Seems like a hassle logistically, but provides 1:1 interaction even private schools do not. And, biggly cheaper.

I am a public education idealist but the concerted effort to undermine the system is a reality, as is the impact of social networks on opportunity.

If your child needs a tutor to thrive at public or private school they’re probably dumber than you

[AmmergauerTele]

Maz - if public the important thing if your kids are able to get in honors/AP/advanced courses do it! They will be surrounded by like kids who are most likely going to 4 year colleges. I don't know many kids who would be psyched to go to school all day then get punished by a tutor for 1-2 hours a day, just sayin'........Well rounded....best classes they can get in to, sports, arts, music, volunteer. Need to be able to write comprehensive essays from experiences on the common app (plus colleges will have tweaks to the common app where they want their own questions answered).

[riser4]

If your child needs a tutor to thrive at public or private school they’re probably dumber than you

Don't take it so literally. What i believe was meant here, and what we did, is activities above and beyond. Our K-8 school wouldn't let our middle kid take math at his level, even though he was ready for it and they were teaching it to older kids. So we paid for online classes through John's Hopkins program for gifted and talented. And we paid for some sessions from a mom we know who is an actual teacher who was homeschooling her own kids. Just like skiing and riding lessons, this worked a lot better than having me teach him. Also, we tried to find other fun enrichment activities. We're a bit rural, so we didn't do as much as we liked. Living in an actual city metro area I am sure one can find a lot of cool educational and fun things for kids of all ages to do. The eldest one liked MIT Splash a lot. Colleges and universities tend to have programs for kids and teens. I lump all of the above into paying for "tutoring", and not so the kid can keep up, but so they get more out of it, do things they might not do in class.

[Danno]

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If your child needs a tutor to thrive at public or private school they&rsquo;re probably dumber than you

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e-feuds that spill over into unrelated threads are annoying.</p>

[neufox47]

Scott Galloway has an interesting take on private school. Private school vs $5.3M as an adult.


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[dunfree]

This is the exact scenario I debate long-term. Did you go the public + tutor route? If so, did you find tutors through the school or elsewhere? Multiple tutors for multiple subjects? Seems like a hassle logistically, but provides 1:1 interaction even private schools do not. And, biggly cheaper. I am a public education idealist but the concerted effort to undermine the system is a reality, as is the impact of social networks on opportunity.

tutors buy numbers, private schools can buy (bought?) access. With whatever the fuck is going down now not sure how much that access will be worth

[BCMtnHound]

Do the rednecks and hippies interbreed there? In VT they did and we ended up with hipbillies.

Heh
Let’s just say the gene pool is a tad shallow. Some of the offspring can be a bit feral.
Backwoods of the Kootenays were similar. No banjos yet though, still a young nation relatively.

[MagnificentUnicorn]

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I’m speaking in generalities he just got in the way

[m2711c]

Still annoying. Fact.

[MagnificentUnicorn]

Think about it, if a child needs a tutor they’re probably not that bright. Not every child/person is going to be a rockstar academically and that’s okay it’s just the way it is.

A tutor might help a student pass or even score well but it’s not going to change their general aptitude for a given subject. You see this in the workplace every day. People that look good on paper and they’ve cleared all the hurdles and jumped through the hoops but somehow they’re clueless. The world needs ditch diggers too, or trades service etc.

[m2711c]

its like you never heard of dyslexia.

[MagnificentUnicorn]

So every kid that’s not that bright has dyslexia? I had no idea it was that prevalent.

[m2711c]

Oh, you clearly don’t understand that. Dyslexia does not diminish intelligence. That’s why tutors are so effective when working with them.

[nickwm21]

Back when I was in HS, it was somewhat easy for a determined kid to get an A in a standard level class; ie do the homework, study for the tests... But that same kid would get a C in an AP class. Tutoring made success in AP classes possible for us “normal” kids….


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[MagnificentUnicorn]

Oh, you clearly don’t understand that. Dyslexia does not diminish intelligence. That’s why tutors are so effective when working with them.

I do understand that dyslexia doesn’t diminish intelligence, one in five people may have dyslexia. What about the rest of the people that don’t thrive academically? We talk and make fun of people for doing stupid shit or being stupid on this forum every day, we have threads dedicated to that. Not every kid is going to thrive and be an academic rockstar no matter how hard we try and how much we want it to be true. You’re an adult, have you been paying attention?