Beta on dual U.S. / Canadian citizenship ?

[St. Jerry]

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So, St. Jerry and subsequently possibly the St. Jerry clan, all of us currently being just Mericans, may have the ability to get dual citizenship.&nbsp; While do not having any intention of moving up north, it does not seem like a bad insurance policy in case sh-t really-really goes sideways here.</p>
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So, I&#39;d image some on the TGRs have dual citizenship.&nbsp; Pros/cons?&nbsp; Possible pitfalls?</p>
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thanks!</p>

[m2711c]

do it. it is always good to have options.

[BmillsSkier]

I am interested in hearing more about what you have to say, and subscribing to your newsletter, but the way this site displays your OP, I cant tell for shit what it is youre saying St Jer.

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[old goat]

Seems like a Canadian passport would be useful traveling abroad. But take the US one to get back into the country or you might wind up in Gitmo.

[evdog]

I'm Cdn citizen in the US on a green card. I've been eligible to apply for citizenship for a while now. The main reason I haven't is that the US requires citizens to file and pay taxes even if they are not US residents. So if I moved home, I'd have to deal with that hassle. With tax treaties you should generally come out even since US credits taxes paid to Canada. But I'm sure there are instances where it would not come out equal. Living in the US I am not required to file or pay Canadian taxes. US is one of the few countries that has this requirement. Being able to vote, and not get deported if convicted of a crime, would be the main benefits to getting dual citizenship.

[J. Barron DeJong]

Can you apply for Canadian citizenship if you have never lived in Canada? I applied for proof of Canadian citizenship for my kids last summer and am trying to recall the requirements.

Or maybe you have a parent who is/was Canadian? I think that gives you automatic citizenship, but maybe not your kids if you never lived in Canada?

What I am saying, I guess, is fuck if I know.

[Ted Striker]

I'm dual (American by birth; acquired Canadian citizenship as a kid a number of years after my dad was recruited for a job there). In my experience, there's no downside. I live in the states, and Canada just ignores me. But when I lived (as an adult) in Canada the US still wanted their cut.

[evdog]

Can you apply for Canadian citizenship if you have never lived in Canada? I applied for proof of Canadian citizenship for my kids last summer and am trying to recall the requirements. Or maybe you have a parent who is/was Canadian? I think that gives you automatic citizenship, but maybe not your kids if you never lived in Canada? What I am saying, I guess, is fuck if I know.

As long as you meet the requirements for citizenship it shouldn&#39;t matter if you&#39;ve never lived in Canada. Lots of Canadian NHL players had kids born in the US who would be eligible based on parents citizenship even though they may never have lived in Canada. If your parents are Canadian, I believe you qualify automatically. Not sure about your own kids if you have not applied for citizenship yourself.

[ironhippy]

My niece and nephew are dual citizens who have never lived in Canada. My brother in law as well. My sister is living in the US (I think she's a citizen now) and her husbands mom was a Canadian. They were all allowed to travel to Canada during the pandemic when everything was locked down.

[St. Jerry]

Thanks. Sounds like something I will be looking to move forward with, eh (see what I did there).
No slam dunk though as it will be complicated.
May just end up moving to Whistler if can get it done.

[J. Barron DeJong]

evdog, my kids qualified even though they have never lived in Canada because I was born there. What I am not sure about is what happens with the kids of someone who has never lived in Canada but qualifies themselves.

i.e. Will my grandkids qualify if my kids never live in Canada?

Maybe I will encourage them to head up there when they/their wife are 9 months pregnant for some anchor babying.

[liv2ski]

Thanks. Sounds like something I will be looking to move forward with, eh (see what I did there).
No slam dunk though as it will be complicated.
May just end up moving to Whistler if can get it done.

When I applied for my children's Canadian citizenship 10 years ago? The only stipulation at that time was my children could have citizenship but not their children. I think I may have read that changed, but I'm uncertain. So long as you have a parent that was Canadian it should be pretty easy.
Just visit the Canadian immigration site as I found it pretty easy to use.

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[t.odd]

I renounced my US citizenship before the birth of our son after living in Canada since I was 7, not regretting that decision...was born in US with my siblings, Canadian dad American Mom, so us kids all had dual citizenship. My siblings both live in US and are waiting on updated guidance/policy from Canadian government which should allow my nieces and nephews who are US born too, to also obtain Canadian citizenship.

[Danno]

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I am interested in hearing more about what you have to say, and subscribing to your newsletter, but the way this site displays your OP, I cant tell for shit what it is youre saying St Jer. [note lack of apostrophes in this post to avoid code puke]

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I do not think it is just about apostrophes, it is also about posting via phone or browser (I have no apostrophes in my post but I am guessing it will result in what you call code puke)</p>

[BCMtnHound]

Not discounting the rights of those eligible for dual citizenship, but remember that if ‘shit really goes sideways’ Canada has good pedigree at accepting refugees. I implore those still able in the US (upper middle class cis-gendered white males especially) to take opportunity to apply every power at their disposal to correct the course their country is taking before running north to sanctuary. I suspect if things continue as they are, your voice and actions will be severely muffled by the poutine curtain once you make a move.

[liv2ski]

I hear you BCMH, but what exactly can we do against this administration whose modus operandi is to legislate everything by Executive Order? Even assuming Congress would push back on Dumps proposed changes, he is skipping every check and balance out there. Demonstrate in the streets? Welcome Marshall Law. These assholes had 4 years to plan a coup and they are playing it by the book. This country may be truly fucked. We will know when the 2026 elections happen.

[Ted Striker]

Thanks. Sounds like something I will be looking to move forward with, eh (see what I did there).
No slam dunk though as it will be complicated.
May just end up moving to Whistler if can get it done.

I'll just add this: Canadian taxation on income is based on residency. And they can (and often will) deem people residents if they own any form of housing in Canada - even if they haven't set foot in the country during that tax year.

So if you become Canadian citizens, and buy a place in Whistler that you will use as a vacation property with the possibility of making it your home at some point in the future, there's a decent chance the government will simply view that as you moving there - even if you legitimately don't.

Read up on how Canada views "residential ties" and "deemed residents" before you make any moves.

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I hear you BCMH, but what exactly can we do against this administration whose modus operandi is to legislate everything by Executive Order? Even assuming Congress would push back on Dumps proposed changes, he is skipping every check and balance out there. Demonstrate in the streets? Welcome Marshall Law. These assholes had 4 years to plan a coup and they are playing it by the book. This country may be truly fucked. We will know when the 2026 elections happen.

It isn’t the EO’s that make this a shitty admin; it’s the shitty admin.

The policy choices and the sketchy claims of legitimacy in tearing institutions apart (metaphoric & actual institutions) are fucking ludicrous.

[liv2ski]

It isn’t the EO’s that make this a shitty admin; it’s the shitty admin.

The policy choices and the sketchy claims of legitimacy in tearing institutions apart (metaphoric & actual institutions) are fucking ludicrous.

Yep, and what can we do about it?

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