Private School or Public School

[summit]

I was tutored by a math genius because I was well beyond any class my fancy private school offered. And now I barely use math except for basics, stats and biz.
I was also tutored in compensatory skills for my ADD. Not sure how much that did then though I have good skills now.

My brother was tutored by a chess grandmaster and now is a master himself.

Lots of reasons for tutors.

[MontuckyFried]

Depending on what's available in your region, there may also be a viable option (c)... Charter.

We are fortunate to have an EXCELLENT one our kids go to. Seriously one of the best educations available in town, regardless of price. It is a classical liberal arts education. My kids are in 2nd/3rd grades and they can seriously smoke most public high schoolers these days on the basics of geography, math, english, world history, poetry, literature, art, etc. Blows my mind actually what these kids know. My 2nd grader has the entire preamble to the Constitution memorized, my son just recited the entire "Friends, Romans, Countrymen, Lend me your ears" speech from Julius Caesar.

And they're fluent in cursive by 2nd grade.

This is normal for anybody here who went to public school in the 50s-80s, but it is NOT normal in the 00s+.

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This is normal for anybody here who went to public school in the 50s-80s

(those are some rosy colored glasses you got there, bub)

[MagnificentUnicorn]

Yeah, that wasn’t “normal” in public schools in the seventies and eighties. Maybe the cursive part and some math and reading comprehension in second and third grade.

[Suzy Chapstick]

Depending on what's available in your region, there may also be a viable option (c)... Charter.

We are fortunate to have an EXCELLENT one our kids go to. Seriously one of the best educations available in town, regardless of price. It is a classical liberal arts education. My kids are in 2nd/3rd grades and they can seriously smoke most public high schoolers these days on the basics of geography, math, english, world history, poetry, literature, art, etc. Blows my mind actually what these kids know. My 2nd grader has the entire preamble to the Constitution, my son just recited the entire "Friends, Romans, Countrymen, Lend me your ears" speech from Julius Caesar.

And they're fluent in cursive by 2nd grade.

This is normal for anybody here who went to public school in the 50s-80s, but it is NOT normal in the 00s+.

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Fluent in cursive? [emoji1787]

How many dead languages can they speak?

[riser4]

Depending on what's available in your region, there may also be a viable option (c)... Charter.

We are fortunate to have an EXCELLENT one our kids go to. Seriously one of the best educations available in town, regardless of price. It is a classical liberal arts education. My kids are in 2nd/3rd grades and they can seriously smoke most public high schoolers these days on the basics of geography, math, english, world history, poetry, literature, art, etc. Blows my mind actually what these kids know. My 2nd grader has the entire preamble to the Constitution, my son just recited the entire "Friends, Romans, Countrymen, Lend me your ears" speech from Julius Caesar.

And they're fluent in cursive by 2nd grade.

This is normal for anybody here who went to public school in the 50s-80s, but it is NOT normal in the 00s+.

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I'm glad it works for your family. However, all schools should be teaching what the charter school is able to teach. Charter schools elevate a select group at the expense of the rest.

[Core Shot]

Fluent in cursive is bad now? That was one of my gripes about my kids and common core. They dropped cursive in favor of keyboarding. What a joke. Nothing like getting a job application and there’s no signature. Just printed letters. Might as well make an x like mongo. Not to mention being able to read cursive historical documents or that letter from grandma

[summit]

You can learn to sign your name easily. Spending a few years on cursive reading and writing is a fucking waste. Keyboarding is a very important universal skill and shouldn't be delayed.

[Peruvian]

They will be the only folks in the cubicle farm to still know how to write an interoffice memo on a yellow pad.

[MontuckyFried]

I'm glad it works for your family. However, all schools should be teaching what the charter school is able to teach. Charter schools elevate a select group at the expense of the rest.

I agree with your first part. It really should serve as a template for all public schools to follow. Down to the building construction where they basically copy/paste the same one everywhere (just as they do in Japan!)

As to the second part, I disagree to some extent. My kids have had plenty of poor classmates from worse parts of town, who if not for the existence of such charter schools, would not remotely have access to such an excellent education. It really can be quite the equalizer in many communities. You wanna talk equity? This is a great start.

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[civilcoconut]

Fluent in cursive is bad now? That was one of my gripes about my kids and common core. They dropped cursive in favor of keyboarding. What a joke. Nothing like getting a job application and there’s no signature. Just printed letters. Might as well make an x like mongo. Not to mention being able to read cursive historical documents or that letter from grandma

I believe there is something to writing things down versus typing when it comes to learning. Cursive isn't important, IMO, it was invented to accommodate the quill. Once you are in the workforce, virtually everything is on a computer anyways.
I think the only thing of consequence I have physically signed beyond a restaurant bill is my mortgage. Everything else is digital.

By the way, who the hell is signing a job application? I think the last paper application I submitted was probably 20 years ago.

[Danno]

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I&#39;m glad it works for your family. However, all schools should be teaching what the charter school is able to teach. Charter schools elevate a select group at the expense of the rest.

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My kiddo is in a charter school, and the kids in her school district that are NOT in a charter school are hardly suffering; my district has excellent &quot;regular&quot; schools and excellent charter schools that fill a niche. I happen to think her school is great and am very glad she is there, but she also would have been fine at the regular school, because it is also great.</p>

[MontuckyFried]

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That brush is mighty broad!</p>
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My kiddo is in a charter school, and the kids in her school district that are NOT in a charter school are hardly suffering; my district has excellent "regular" schools and excellent charter schools that fill a niche. I happen to think her school is great and am very glad she is there, but she also would have been fine at the regular school, because it is also great.</p>

As with many things, YMMV. There are good charter schools, private and public schools. And there are indeed terrible versions of the same. Some charters are absolute nightmares with atrocious standards, so it REALLY depends on what's available in your area. We're fortunate in that there is a TON of school choice where we live, no matter which route a parent chooses for their children.

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[XXX-er]

do they teach keyboarding at young ages now or what ? In my day it was typing I should have taken which would have been handy, I just kind of know where the keys are from fixing a lot of tywriters and computers

[riser4]

Well, I'm the guy that believes that all public schools should be quality schools, that there should be no school choice, and that exactly zero public dollars should go to private schools of any kind. Unfortunately that is not the case. I had the privilege to attend decent public schools and so did my kids. Not everyone has that privilege. They should.

[m2711c]

Ditto

[mcski]

Agreed w riser. There are great charter schools, but make no mistake, they get to pick their enrollment much the same as private schools do so their demographic of students is different even if their have some drawn from lower economic groups. And they can and do weed our low performers when that option is not possible in a public school. Our district is far from the best and has probably one of the consistently worst boards anywhere, they should still be funded better and not a dime of public money should go to private schools instead. Vouchers are an class warfare crime

[Danno]

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Well, I&#39;m the guy that believes that all public schools should be quality schools, that there should be no school choice, and that exactly zero public dollars should go to private schools of any kind. Unfortunately that is not the case. I had the privilege to attend decent public schools and so did my kids. Not everyone has that privilege. They should.

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I agree with most of that. But no school choice is limiting, because not every school can or should be one size fits all. The charter school my kid goes to IS a public school, and anyone can get in via lottery. Way back when I was in school (back in the stone ages according to my smart ass kid), I went to a citywide public school that required a test to get in. I suppose in areas with no public transport such schools could be seen as exclusionary because they require a car ride, but I took public transport to high school and my kid could take it to her school (if I lived somewhere less car-focused).</p>
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Expecting every public school to fit every student is madness, IMO. We should have great public schools and every kid should have a great &quot;neighborhood&quot; school, on that we agree. But if you feel like every kid must go to that school or it is private school for them, well, I think that is way too limiting, because some schools are better at some things than others and kids are unique.</p>

[Danno]

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Agreed w riser. There are great charter schools, but make no mistake, they get to pick their enrollment much the same as private schools do so their demographic of students is different even if their have some drawn from lower economic groups. And they can and do weed our low performers when that option is not possible in a public school. Our district is far from the best and has probably one of the consistently worst boards anywhere, they should still be funded better and not a dime of public money should go to private schools instead. Vouchers are an class warfare crime

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The charter schools here are pure lottery. They are in some sense exclusionary because you have to actually apply for the lottery and have the ability to get your kid to the school, but they do NOT get to pick their enrollment. And her school does not weed out kids at all, quite the opposite.</p>

[summit]

I don't see a problem with a school for high performers in districts that have enough schools to specialize. In small districts having special programs in each school makes sense. In big districts have special schools makes sense.

Because no, not every kid is capable of learning the same way, or performing as well, as ever other kid.