ON3P SKIS Discussion

[Jvhowube]

Or they figured another buyer would have a boot bigger than an elf and did him a favor? Lol


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Ayy 25.5 isn't that crazy. But them fitting 294 up to 310 kinda captures more of the population so you're kinda right hah. In any other scenario I'd sell these flat but it seems like they might be more valuable without multiple sets of holes so I'm leaving the clamps on for now if by some miracle they can work for someone who's looking for some unique new pow skis.

I'm not sure if I should be upset with the shop or what (but it is unfortunate that pretzel is passing because of this issue)

[bearcub69]

I wonder if this was a situation where they used a Pivot 2.0 jig on a 1.0 heelpiece?

is the 2.0 and 1.0 not the same jig? 2.0 only has 4mm more adjustment total

[Name Redacted]

Considering selling some 189 cm Steeple 102's w/ radicals and used skins if anyone is interested hit me up before I list em on GS. Probably looking around $300. Bought from kootenai a few years ago. I just need to thin the quiver out and it'd be cool to keep them in the family, previously owned by Norseman too.

Here's his post from back then to explain:

These are pry from my dead fucking hands skis..... except I have a backup...... so thinning.

Much love for these in the BG world. 102 waist punches WELL Above its trim slender waist for amazing 3D turns. These have RES, they are indestructible ON3P construction and they have only seen powder.

These are Norsemen’s skis and I will just link to his ad because he documented all the goods.

The only improvements/degradations: the heel is now a radical instead of ST. Skins have been reglued. It now has 2 mounts, one for Norse (300? Bsl) and one for 325 Bsl. I put inserts in for the radical setup. I believe there is one spinner that one needs to be cautious. And, very slight base protrusions from the inserts.

Skis, bindings, skins. 350.00 + ship from Sandpoint.


See thread for details: FS: 189 ON3P Steeple 102 (14/15)
https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/...d.php?t=310941

Finally, I may be willing to ship flat and/or sell my other pair and keep this pair (a year newer, swiss cheesed, but epoxied, skewered and plugged) pm with interest

[SchralphMacchio]

is the 2.0 and 1.0 not the same jig? 2.0 only has 4mm more adjustment total

Not sure. I read some comments in the Pivot 2.0 thread that lead me to believe that the 2.0 heel might be somewhat offset relative to 1.0 at the same BSL. Haven’t gotten my hands on anything yet to confirm or compare.

[K1mJ0ngTr1ll]

Not sure. I read some comments in the Pivot 2.0 thread that lead me to believe that the 2.0 heel might be somewhat offset relative to 1.0 at the same BSL. Haven’t gotten my hands on anything yet to confirm or compare.

I swapped a 1.0 heel to a 2.0. It’s the same pattern.

[SchralphMacchio]

I’m not talking about hole pattern, but heel position relative to mount line … it was this comment:

Sounds like the opposite problem right?

[K1mJ0ngTr1ll]

I’m not talking about hole pattern, but heel position relative to mount line … it was this comment:

Sounds like the opposite problem right?

Ahhhhh interesting. I’ll have to look at mine when I get home.

[ASmileyFace]

Considering selling some 189 cm Steeple 102's w/ radicals and used skins if anyone is interested hit me up before I list em on GS. Probably looking around $300. Bought from kootenai a few years ago. I just need to thin the quiver out and it'd be cool to keep them in the family, previously owned by Norseman too.

Here's his post from back then to explain:

.... my favorite touring ski of all time. So tempting...

[lrn2swim]

I honestly think they might just be too much ski for me.

You know I thought the same thing, but just in the last week I think my 189 Asym BGs finally clicked with me. I think the design of the ski allows you to keep your weight at a place when skiing in certain types of conditions where on most other skis you wouldn't be able to. Requires it's actually.

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[Name Redacted]

.... my favorite touring ski of all time. So tempting...

Yeah, I like em. Haven't skied them a ton. Mainly just trying to raise funds to appease the SO. I'll be down your way in March and could bring them if they haven't sold.

[ASmileyFace]

Yeah, I like em. Haven't skied them a ton. Mainly just trying to raise funds to appease the SO. I'll be down your way in March and could bring them if they haven't sold.

I blew up my last pair in my accident. I'd need to move on from a pair of skis to justify it but If they haven't sold by the time you make it my way in March lets connect.

[mn_teleswede]

Looking to move on from my Wren Ninety Eights (one eighty nine length) to something more hard snow oriented. Single mount for NTN freerides. In MN but headed to Breck 1/23-1/26. Gauging interest- $300. Posting here before GearSwap.

[eSock]

Thought I wasn't getting along with my BGs at the end of last season and was ready to put em on the chopping block, but some tip and tail detuning and a week in Jackson hole has brought the love back. So damn damp yet agile, and float so well.

[PeachesNCream]

No one wants some cheap kartel 116s?

https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/...ptons-and-more!


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[snOwen]

Finally got out on my summer marketplace find BG116s this week. Oh my goodness, everything I’ve ever read about these is true. They took a few laps to figure out, but now that I’m dialed it’s truly mind blowing. Unreal how easy they are to throw sideways while still maintaining crazy stability through variable snow. As someone who’s prior profession involved a lot of riding around in armored vehicles, I feel like I’m back in one when I get on these; they crush anything you could come across and you barely feel it. Also insanely easy to air these out, they almost prefer to be off the snow. I was slightly worried about how little tail there is, quickly found it to be the most supportive tail I’ve ever skied. Hero ski describes these perfectly, they’re officially a cold-dead-hands ski after only 3 days.


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[Name Redacted]

Finally got out on my summer marketplace find BG116s this week. Oh my goodness, everything I’ve ever read about these is true. They took a few laps to figure out, but now that I’m dialed it’s truly mind blowing. Unreal how easy they are to throw sideways while still maintaining crazy stability through variable snow. As someone who’s prior profession involved a lot of riding around in armored vehicles, I feel like I’m back in one when I get on these; they crush anything you could come across and you barely feel it. Also insanely easy to air these out, they almost prefer to be off the snow. I was slightly worried about how little tail there is, quickly found it to be the most supportive tail I’ve ever skied. Hero ski describes these perfectly, they’re officially a cold-dead-hands ski after only 3 days.


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I remember falling in love with those exact skis about three turns in.

[Bandit Man]

And people think we are just being nostalgic about the old BG’s. They really are something special.

[Name Redacted]

Skied mine this weekend.

[K1mJ0ngTr1ll]

Skied the ASYMs this past week. They really are different in the best way. With that I have some 187s for sale. Only need one BG. Well, maybe not.


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[phatty]

Finally got out on my summer marketplace find BG116s this week. Oh my goodness, everything I’ve ever read about these is true. They took a few laps to figure out, but now that I’m dialed it’s truly mind blowing. Unreal how easy they are to throw sideways while still maintaining crazy stability through variable snow. As someone who’s prior profession involved a lot of riding around in armored vehicles, I feel like I’m back in one when I get on these; they crush anything you could come across and you barely feel it. Also insanely easy to air these out, they almost prefer to be off the snow. I was slightly worried about how little tail there is, quickly found it to be the most supportive tail I’ve ever skied. Hero ski describes these perfectly, they’re officially a cold-dead-hands ski after only 3 days.


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Now those are a find! Congrats on joining the club!

[TripleT]

Going to Japan 2nd week of Feb. Mostly lifts and side country, but want the ability to skin.
Was planning to bring my 2023 BGT118s - but 2nd guessing if it's the right tool for the job. Anyone with BG experience in japan?

[kid-kapow]

a quick Jeff100ripper rocker vs jeff108 comparison:

The ripper rocker def makes a difference re hard snow prowess. My proto j100rr pair is a bit too soft to really make it count though, so I decided to move them on. BO98s ski funky, icey snow a fair bit more competently, both are awesome on soft groomers. I will recommend these for people who prioritize butterability, if not I would suggest going custom stiffer (unless my protos are softer than stock - Iggy / ON3P can correct me if so).

J108s are def an improvement on hard snow compared to my late kartel108s. They float tremenduously well and are very loose yet supportive. They are def more softer snow specific over having the same type of hard snow prowess as say Rossi SF110s, but float significantly better. I will happily recommend these to skiers prioritizing soft snow prowess in a progressively mounted ski that floats better than they ought to - they are fantastic, even if they are not the quite allround enough for me to be my daily driver.

[SkiLyft]

Going to Japan 2nd week of Feb. Mostly lifts and side country, but want the ability to skin.
Was planning to bring my 2023 BGT118s - but 2nd guessing if it's the right tool for the job. Anyone with BG experience in japan?

Took my goats with shifts in 2020, loved them!


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[SupreChicken]

Going to Japan 2nd week of Feb. Mostly lifts and side country, but want the ability to skin.
Was planning to bring my 2023 BGT118s - but 2nd guessing if it's the right tool for the job. Anyone with BG experience in japan?

Yes. They ruled. Skied goats only all week. Lots of offers to try other skis. Declined them all.

[gturk]

I now have 6 days at Revy on Woodsman 92-186 ripper extra stiff. Coming from 10yrs on Viciks, BGs, various Wrens. I'm.... confused. On steeps/bumps/real terrain, the Woodrippers are phenomenal, basically a super agile Wren, exactly what I wanted. I cannot figure them out on groomers. On steep corduroy I can't slalom them, can't find a natural turning radius, can't lay them over into a proper carve, may as well be skiing 2x6s at a 40mph speed limit. On low angle or even slightly slick groomers they will randomly bite into a high radius 'turn' that is uncomfortably hard to break. It kinda reminds me of how my old 2013 BGs would lock into an absurdly large like 50m turn, except the BG was stable in that turn and the Woodripper is squirrely AF.

Again, my basis of comparison is Wrens, most recently 2021 Wren 102 TIs and 2018 Wren 108s. On groomers, the 108s are great for what they are, and the TIs are imo legitimately great - last year I demoed some of those Bode Miller carving skis everyone was presumably paid to say nice things about, and I sincerely prefer the Wren TIs on groomers because they are so stable at speed.

I plan to get them re-tuned, but any other ideas what is going on here? Is the woodsman THAT different from the Wren? Should I just shut up and stop humoring my wife with groomer laps?