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    Quote Originally Posted by leroy jenkins View Post
    Oh all the fucking time. I also invite criticism from others, but if all they can muster is insults and smug dismissiveness, I take it as a shortcoming on their part.

    So instead of imply whatever you're implying, use your words and just outright state it. If you can't, then well, it seems smug dismissiveness is all you have.
    You were describing narcissistic behavior and it mirrors your past posting history. I thought it was obvious but someone with narcissism wouldn’t be able to understand that.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MagnificentUnicorn View Post
    I went and read news articles from several different sources. She’s not a US citizen and she’s a Putin supporter, who cares? Some bluehaired elite doesn’t get to hear her aria. If she was a US citizen I would probably have a different opinion.


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    Ah, so, only US citizens should have basic human rights. Ok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leroy jenkins View Post
    I'm not a link fetcher for people who won't be convinced of anything. Thats way low consciousness.

    Who know, maybe it was fake news. Larger point is still valid. Left right left is the march towards tyranny and simply saying that was enough to get the groupthink around here all riled up. Tell me how I am narcisstic. I am eager for self growth.
    That post is evidence of having shit for brains.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Benny Profane View Post
    Ah, so, only US citizens should have basic human rights. Ok.
    What basic human rights has she lost? Food, shelter or safety? She has three residence in Manhattan, Vienna and St. Petersburg. She’s the state singer for Russia and Austria. I’m pretty sure she’ll be fine


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    Quote Originally Posted by leroy jenkins View Post
    I'm not a link fetcher for people who won't be convinced of anything. Thats way low consciousness.
    So “smug dismissiveness” is all you’ve got. You’re not smart enough to be a narcissist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MagnificentUnicorn View Post
    You were describing narcissistic behavior and it mirrors your past posting history. I thought it was obvious but someone with narcissism wouldn’t be able to understand that.


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    How so?


    What aspects of narcissism do I display, and how? You took the time to type this, if its so self evident, then it should be super easy to make evident to a narccisist like myself.

    I have like no desire to control others. Thats a hallmark of narcissism, embodied in group think and anger at people who don't fit into that.

    I'm inviting criticism instead of defending myself or insulting you. Bring it. Tell me how. A narcissist would run so hard from that moment. I welcome it. Bring it. The worst you can do to me is help me grow.




    Honestly I have had some traits of BPD, but narcisism, nah man, i test like baseline type zero low for all aspects of that except one. But please tell me how.
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    Quote Originally Posted by leroy jenkins View Post
    I'm not a link fetcher for people who won't be convinced of anything. Thats way low consciousness.

    Who know, maybe it was fake news. Larger point is still valid. Left right left is the march towards tyranny and simply saying that was enough to get the groupthink around here all riled up. You people cheer for tyranny as long as its 'your side'. Only a fool would fear joe rogan more than bill gates or donald trump. Tell me how I am narcisstic. I am eager for self growth.
    I would figure that if this was such a paramount, existential threat that examples would be easy (without links) and the executive order would be easy to provide to provide a baseline for the conversation I think you want to have.

    You’ve claimed in the past you just want to have conversations. Well, frankly, telling us something and then when asked to clarify (as one does in a conversation) or provide a simple link to the thing you are talking about so we all have the same baseline and the responding then way you have is a pretty unpleasant way to converse.

    After you do it a couple of times you get the reaction you are getting.

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    The Met is more or less a business. They need to sell tickets. They don't need protestors out front or disrupting performances, both of which were likely, and they need the rest of the employees to come to work, which was unlikely. Fuck her, next question.

    It's ludicrous to bring McCarthy into this, and disingenuous.

    And I'm still wondering what executive order Leroy was talking about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benny Profane View Post
    You are obviously not familiar with the lives and careers destroyed by McCarthy.

    They'll come for you or a relative next, always happens.

    This isn't McCarthyism. This is rich donors and board members whinging in the heat of the moment. As your article explains the First Amendment only protects speech from government crackdowns. Joseph McCarthy was a Republican U.S. Senator from the state of Wisconsin who abused his power to wage a campaign against alleged communists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leroy jenkins View Post
    I'm not a link fetcher for people who won't be convinced of anything. Thats way low consciousness.

    Who know, maybe it was fake news. Larger point is still valid. Left right left is the march towards tyranny and simply saying that was enough to get the groupthink around here all riled up. You people cheer for tyranny as long as its 'your side'. Only a fool would fear joe rogan more than bill gates or donald trump. Tell me how I am narcisstic. I am eager for self growth.

    Ok then, off you go.
    I have been in this State for 30 years and I am willing to admit that I am part of the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldnew_guy View Post
    I would figure that if this was such a paramount, existential threat that examples would be easy (without links) and the executive order would be easy to provide to provide a baseline for the conversation I think you want to have.

    You’ve claimed in the past you just want to have conversations. Well, frankly, telling us something and then when asked to clarify (as one does in a conversation) or provide a simple link to the thing you are talking about so we all have the same baseline and the responding then way you have is a pretty unpleasant way to converse.

    After you do it a couple of times you get the reaction you are getting.
    You've got a point here, but if someone was actualkyl conversing with me in a way that seemed to further communication I'd be more interested. Debate is ok, but argument is pretty pointless, and its easy to see people who default to arguing what they already believe in instead of trying to explore things, and I don't waste my energy on that because it creates more conflict than connection. You'll never convince anyone of anything in this life by debate. Theres a choice to connect to what is true in what others say, vs try and focus on what you can argue. The latter is just low consciousness to me.


    Even if that was fake news the larger point is absolutely valid, and has been proven by your reactions. Everything is so partisan these days people cheer the loss of their own freedoms just so long as the other side is losing theirs.

    I'm not here to 'win'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bunion 2020 View Post
    Ok then, off you go.
    Did I pee in your corn flakes? Why so butthurt?
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    Quote Originally Posted by leroy jenkins View Post
    You've got a point here, but if someone was actualkyl conversing with me in a way that seemed to further communication I'd be more interested. Debate is ok, but argument is pretty pointless, and its easy to see people who default to arguing what they already believe in instead of trying to explore things, and I don't waste my energy on that because it creates more conflict than connection. You'll never convince anyone of anything in this life by debate.


    Even if that was fake news the larger point is absolutely valid, and has been proven by your reactions. Everything is so partisan these days people cheer the loss of their own freedoms just so long as the other side is losing theirs.

    I'm not here to 'win'.
    I don’t know why we can’t have a conversation about the thing you brought up, which was an executive order and are now drifting off into whatever this is.

    I asked a couple simple questions you seem to have completely ignored because I’m curious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MultiVerse View Post
    A lot of the whinging from the right in America boils down to them saying "I told you so, what they're [Big tech and the media] are doing to Putin they're doing to us too "
    And a lot of the whinging from the left is the same thing.

    maybe we should stop calling it whinging though. Maybe thats the problem. but ok, I think I get it. You guys have a good one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldnew_guy View Post
    I don’t know why we can’t have a conversation about the thing you brought up, which was an executive order and are now drifting off into whatever this is.

    I asked a couple simple questions you seem to have completely ignored because I’m curious.
    I brought up a social dynamic where both sides cheer the loss of their freedoms. Responses defended that. If this seemed like a conversation perhaps i'd put energy into finding links, but why would I bother when for someone who isn't capable of discussing the larger idea? Like a link will make you capable of having a different conversation? Link if I can't find the link we aren't moving towards tyranny? Keep cheering.

    Besides, I'm more interested in hearing how I am narcissistic than politics at this point, anyone care to educate me?
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    Quote Originally Posted by leroy jenkins View Post
    And a lot of the whinging from the left is the same thing.

    maybe we should stop calling it whinging though. Maybe thats the problem. but ok, I think I get it. You guys have a good one.
    You have no argument, just bullshit.

    Defend an argument or fuck off dumbass.


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    Quote Originally Posted by leroy jenkins View Post
    maybe we should stop calling it whinging though.
    It is whinging. It starts with a valid point: yes, the mainstream media has a tendency to form a monoculture, clusters to the same opinions, can be manipulated, and is often wrong.

    But then the logic breaks down and the whinging begins leading many to support things like Ivermectin, ketogenic supplements, and Putin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leroy jenkins View Post
    Even if that was fake news the larger point is absolutely valid, and has been proven by your reactions. Everything is so partisan these days people cheer the loss of their own freedoms just so long as the other side is losing theirs.
    I like that you think you are of above average intelligence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leroy jenkins View Post
    I brought up a social dynamic where both sides cheer the loss of their freedoms. Responses defended that.
    Yeah, I’ve done this with you two times now, where I have attempted to engage with you and this form of “conversation” you are having is not enjoyable for anyone.

    2 cents for what’s its worth - If you are interested in personal growth as you claim, you might step back and consider why no one is interested.

    Maybe the user name is apt? I don’t know, good luck with whatever it is you are doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MultiVerse View Post
    This isn't McCarthyism. This is rich donors and board members whinging in the heat of the moment. As your article explains the First Amendment only protects speech from government crackdowns. Joseph McCarthy was a Republican U.S. Senator from the state of Wisconsin who abused his power to wage a campaign against alleged communists.
    could also be other performers driving it; at the core of bunny’s and turkeys gripe is deep dishonesty and bad faith. They give not a single fuck about canceling whomever they choose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldnew_guy View Post
    Yeah, I’ve done this with you two times now, where I have attempted to engage with you and this form of “conversation” you are having is not enjoyable for anyone.

    2 cents for what’s its worth - If you are interested in personal growth as you claim, you might step back and consider why no one is interested.

    Maybe the user name is apt? I don’t know, good luck with whatever it is you are doing.
    Then why are you engaging me? You can ignore me. You're creating something here.



    I'm more interested in why I make you butthurt by saying left right left is the march towards tyranny. Seems I'm pushing a button or something. What do you think about our progression towards tyranny? That was the original conversation, if you'd like to converse about it instead of just debate then do so.

    Still waiting for someone to tell me how I'm narcissistic. I have no desire to control others, and come from the standpoint that I'd rather understand others than win.

    People probably aren't interested because of group think and they find me annoying. Thats cool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by leroy jenkins View Post
    Then why are you engaging me? You can ignore me. You're creating something here.



    I'm more interested in why I make you butthurt by saying left right left is the march towards tyranny. Seems I'm pushing a button or something. What do you think about our progression towards tyranny? That was the original conversation, if you'd like to converse about it instead of just debate then do so.

    Still waiting for someone to tell me how I'm narcissistic. I have no desire to control others, and come from the standpoint that I'd rather understand others than win.
    See. You are just trolling. It’s boring.

    Inmean, I just asked what the EO number was and you lost your mind down this weird persecution rabbit hole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldnew_guy View Post
    See. You are just trolling. It’s boring.
    trolling is just to get resonses and piss people off. I'd love to read something that expands my awarenes and understanding, especially of people unlike myself with different viewpoints than myself. Trolls insult people. When people insult me I wish them the best, as I wish all you the best. Trolls redicule and mock, I don't.

    Or to be told how I'm a narcisissit.


    You're right this is boring though. I gots shit to do. Hope you have a great day.
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    So wtf is going on with the war? Enough of the leroy bullshit...

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    Putin is blaming the deaths of women and children, killed by Russian bombs, on Ukraine for not evacuating civilians prior to the war...

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