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    I wanna get thousands of small Ukraine flag stickers, and have them put on all of the gas pumps (along with a link showing what an individual gas station paid for the gas in it’s pumps that day)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Summer View Post
    I don't like to chime in on these kinds of arguments, but this is legitimately a fucked up thing to write.

    No one deserves terrorism.
    True, but I am sure the Afghans and the Palestinians consider our actions or lack of to be very fucked up and our decisions in those two countries will very likely create the next Bin Laden.
    I saw the Irish PM today tearing his parliament a new asshole over their hand ringing over Ukraine but totally ignoring what is happening to the Palestinians. I agreed with his rather harsh assessment and have for years.
    Like KQ's signature says, we need to find a way to be more kind and accepting as a species or I am uncertain we will make it. I know it is hard when people are pissed to find mutual ground, but I wish mankind would try.
    Never in U.S. history has the public chosen leadership this malevolent. The moral clarity of their decision is crystalline, particularly knowing how Trump will regard his slim margin as a “mandate” to do his worst. We’ve learned something about America that we didn’t know, or perhaps didn’t believe, and it’ll forever color our individual judgments of who and what we are.

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    israel just put 165k troops into the west bank? fuck. and this whole time we were worried about china.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rideit View Post
    I wanna get thousands of small Ukraine flag stickers, and have them put on all of the gas pumps (along with a link showing what an individual gas station paid for the gas in it’s pumps that day)
    Two rolls of electric tape: one blue, one yellow. Make your own Ukrainian flag stickers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KQ View Post
    Random thought:

    Wonder what Kim Jong-un thinks about this whole thing.
    Left out, as always.

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    Quote Originally Posted by highangle View Post
    I guess Yeltsin shouldn't have tapped a fucking KGB guy to succeed him, then?
    From what I’ve heard - This American Life provided good context - it was a handshake agreement between Putin and Yeltsin. After Putin (possibly/probably) triggered the Chechen war, he said he would stop the corruption allegations (run by the FSB) into Yeltsin if he handed power to Putin. Not sure the evidence behind it but it sounds like a fair bit of belief that something circumspect happened in the transfer of power.

    Thanks again for the Task & Purpose link.


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    Quote Originally Posted by liv2ski View Post
    True, but I am sure the Afghans and the Palestinians consider our actions or lack of to be very fucked up and our decisions in those two countries will very likely create the next Bin Laden.
    I saw the Irish PM today tearing his parliament a new asshole over their hand ringing over Ukraine but totally ignoring what is happening to the Palestinians. I agreed with his rather harsh assessment and have for years.
    Like KQ's signature says, we need to find a way to be more kind and accepting as a species or I am uncertain we will make it. I know it is hard when people are pissed to find mutual ground, but I wish mankind would try.
    Haha, yeah, but a high ranking Israeli is acting as a travelling diplomat in all this, talking to Putin today for three hours with our blessing, after the Saudis, the fucking Saudis, volunteered for this role. You can't make this shit up. It's like the Cheney's are suddenly good people because they're never Trumpers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dunfree View Post
    what base? It’s Russia. He just got rid of local elections.
    He may not need them anymore, but he still has a “base” of older Russians who support him and his propaganda. Don’t take my word for it though,I’m just parroting what Ben Rhodes calls those people.

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    Old Russians don't fight wars. And they won't come out in the streets and defend him when the shit flies. They're old.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ex-powderbroker View Post
    israel just put 165k troops into the west bank? fuck. and this whole time we were worried about china.
    source? can’t find any info about that anywhere

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    The world is a fucking mess now Benny. I mean maybe we are on the brink of taking ourselves out when the shithead countries are trying to be the middlemen in a larger conflict.
    I keep praying the alien space craft are going to suddenly materialize over the Earths major capitals and tell us "enough is enough" and like a good parent stop all of us stupid fucking children from fighting. But that is a big wish.
    Never in U.S. history has the public chosen leadership this malevolent. The moral clarity of their decision is crystalline, particularly knowing how Trump will regard his slim margin as a “mandate” to do his worst. We’ve learned something about America that we didn’t know, or perhaps didn’t believe, and it’ll forever color our individual judgments of who and what we are.

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    It's always been a fucking mess.

    But Putin is really in a pickle of his own making.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benny Profane View Post
    Old Russians don't fight wars. And they won't come out in the streets and defend him when the shit flies. They're old.
    Surely you must understand the many, many reasons why you feed propaganda and feel good bullshit to the people who support you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kathleenturneroverdrive View Post
    Surely you must understand the many, many reasons why you feed propaganda and feel good bullshit to the people who support you?
    What are you talking about? Are you imagining Russia as a democracy? Like, old people vote, like here? No. What the fuck do old people count for in that country? First, there ain't that many, they die much younger, especially males, and especially from alcoholism, and especially after the Soviet Union disintegrated. But, if they made it to old, on a meager pension, they have no power. Just riding it out in a cheap flat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by east or bust View Post
    source? can’t find any info about that anywhere
    i was being sarcastic about the ‘what about israel’ comment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benny Profane View Post
    What are you talking about? Are you imagining Russia as a democracy? Like, old people vote, like here? No. What the fuck do old people count for in that country? First, there ain't that many, they die much younger, especially males, and especially from alcoholism, and especially after the Soviet Union disintegrated. But, if they made it to old, on a meager pension, they have no power. Just riding it out in a cheap flat.
    What are you talking about?

    Someone mentioned Putin wanting to “make Russia great again” as a motivator for all this shit. Everything I’ve read says that’s just propaganda for those who buy into (aka his supporters). He’s really just there for oil/gas, and pushing NATO back (among other things).

    That’s it. This isn’t that complicated.

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    Look, what I'm trying to say is, if the people actually try to rise up, which looks doubtful, he has quite the domestic force to stop that, it won't be old people leading the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ex-powderbroker View Post
    i was being sarcastic about the ‘what about israel’ comment.
    lol my bad, missed that

    shit’s so crazy right now you never really know

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benny Profane View Post
    Look, what I'm trying to say is, if the people actually try to rise up, which looks doubtful, he has quite the domestic force to stop that, it won't be old people leading the way.
    Someone jangle some car keys in front of this baby brained gomer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dunfree View Post
    what about discover?
    Nobody actually has a Discover card, the whole thing's a big ruse like birds aren't real

    ...

    If there's a revolt in Russia it will be led by the westernized middle class and the young.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benny Profane View Post
    Just riding it out in a cheap flat.
    So you are an expert on Russian real estate too? Thank God I was afraid for a minute there that it might be a place you weren’t an expert on.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ötzi View Post
    Nobody actually has a Discover card, the whole thing's a big ruse like birds aren't real

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    If there's a revolt in Russia it will be led by the westernized middle class and the young.
    what young? To quote Taco Bell they making a run for the border

    Or they getting murdered by putins trash, which feeds back to the former pointhttps://globalnews.ca/news/8661361/v...-kyiv-ukraine/

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    Quote Originally Posted by kathleenturneroverdrive View Post
    He may not need them anymore, but he still has a “base” of older Russians who support him and his propaganda. Don’t take my word for it though,I’m just parroting what Ben Rhodes calls those people.
    sure 10km outside of a city they support him but it’s Appalachia with better pickles and much less meth but this does not an empire make

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flounder View Post
    After getting stuck with 10 other cars behind a bro dozer going 45-50 today and flooring it whenever you could pass, I’m ready for $8 gas to get those shitheads off the road. If it helps fuck Putin, even better.
    THANK YOU!!! As long as this asshattery keeps going on, we have plenty of room in the marketplace.

    Trucks and SUVs keep selling out on every dealer lot? We got more room to increase gas prices. Simple as that.

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    Oh, and a Ukrainian postman like Cliff took down your jet Putin. Swallow a makarov and make the world a better place

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