Fear and Loathing, a Rat Flu Odyssey

[The AD]

Are we supposed to be mad at foreign politicians for downplaying the threat from COVID19 and not our own? Is that how that is working these days? Asking for a friend.

Or, conversely, we can't blame Trump because many other countries also dropped the ball.

[jono]

You mean Obama and Fauci right?

Obviously. If you have to ask you probably aren't watching enough YouTube videos or Fox. Paul Cottrell has the next level gas lighting you seek. You're welcome!

[4matic]

History clarifies the present. It's always been about the money (except for Carter). From 1998:

Republicans, Democrats, and China

Human rights used to be a Democratic concern. When Jimmy Carter tried to put the issue at the center of his foreign policy, Republicans charged that he was being woolly minded and naive. Jeane J. Kirkpatrick, who rose to fame as a critic of Carter’s human rights efforts, argued that pestering friendly regimes about their political prisoners played into the hands of the Communists, whose human rights records were invariably worse.

Even the Republican human rights concern about Communist regimes had one great exception: China. Partly because of China’s Cold War value as a rival of the Soviet Union, partly because Richard Nixon and Henry Kissinger started the rapprochement, partly because the American business establishment has embraced China so enthusiastically, and partly for reasons that remain mysterious, the Republican Party has had a soft spot for the world’s largest Communist regime for almost three decades.

Some Republicans have tried to imply that the Chinese purchased the Clinton administration’s favor with illegal campaign cash. At this stage, it is still far from proved that anyone in the Clinton administration knew that the Democratic Party was getting money from China or that money had an influence on its policies. But if the Chinese did try to buy favor with the Democrats, it may have been because they already owned the Republicans. Not having seen a Democratic administration in a dozen years, they might well have been worried that the new one elected in 1992 would actually follow through on its rhetoric about human rights and democracy. With the Republicans, they understood there would be no deviation from Nixon’s policy of accommodation.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...and-china.html

[basinbeater]

They say the darkest night, happens just before the dawn.

https://youtu.be/bgGOcjbGtJo

sent from Utah.

[huckbucket]

Important new data for 1,277 hospitalized patients from a 9.6M Kaiser Permanente cohort in CA/WA. Risk of ICU admission and death each tended to be higher among male than female patients, which is consistent with sex difference in other countries.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....12.20062943v1

[happytimefunbox]

I don't know if the Coronavirus is gonna kill me.
But if I have to spend another day with my wife and teenager daughter bickering over bullshit
I'm getting that van, heading to the nearest river and starting my life there immediately

[4matic]

I don't know if the Coronavirus is gonna kill me.
But if I have to spend another day with my wife and teenager daughter bickering over bullshit
I'm getting that van, heading to the nearest river and starting my life there immediately

Headphones man. Check out.

[happytimefunbox]

Jesus Hercules Christ

edit to add-I'm at work and their shit is finding me here.
Think my almost 18 YO needs to to find a new spot to hang her hat when she becomes an adult next month.
Coming of age in the time of Coronavirus.....

FUCK!

[iceman]

Actual Zombies (lockdown protestors in OH)


vs

Fake Zombies



apologies to The Urban hermit on Twitter

[4matic]

Think my almost 18 YO needs to to find a new spot to hang her hat when she becomes an adult next month.

That used to be the goal of a spry 18y/o. I’m glad I had the opportunity but surely it’s not real anymore. There will plenty of opportunity ahead for an 18yo.

[Vt-Freeheel]

It’s not easy being stupid is it?


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Must suck going through life without a sense of humor. Especially in these unprecedented times.

[gravitylover]

I don't know if the Coronavirus is gonna kill me.
But if I have to spend another day with my wife and teenager daughter bickering over bullshit
I'm getting that van, heading to the nearest river and starting my life there immediately

Things are starting to get tense here too. When we run out of money next week or the week after it's gonna be untenable.

[altasnob]

Important new data for 1,277 hospitalized patients from a 9.6M Kaiser Permanente cohort in CA/WA. Risk of ICU admission and death each tended to be higher among male than female patients, which is consistent with sex difference in other countries.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....12.20062943v1

So if you are 40-49 years old dude and end up needing to go to the hospital you have a 56% chance of needing the ICU and a 9.4% chance of dying. Does not indicate what pre-existing conditions these people had but still, not good.

[Mofro261]

I don't know if the Coronavirus is gonna kill me.
But if I have to spend another day with my wife and teenager daughter bickering over bullshit
I'm getting that van, heading to the nearest river and starting my life there immediately

We've been empty nested since August, one kid in MT and one in UT. Was supposed to have a 10 day road trip starting March 15 to visit and ski with my kiddos. I'm sure we'd be complaining about how they do nothing to help if they were home since both the Mrs and I are still working full time, but damn I miss em right about now.

[Benny Profane]

Man, living alone sounds better and better these days.

[Timberridge]

Man, living alone sounds better and better these days.

Don't you still have the cats?

[altasnob]

Good news for asthma sufferers, from NY Times, Asthma Is Absent Among Top Covid-19 Risk Factors, Early Data Shows

[4matic]

Don't you still have the cats?

That’s me with the cats.. Benny to heartless for a pet.

[east or bust]

Man, living alone sounds better and better these days.

Heh, how the tides have turned. And here I was bitching about no human interaction a couple weeks ago.

[glademaster]

Man, living alone sounds better and better these days.

Highly recommended.

[Benny Profane]

That’s me with the cats.. Benny to heartless for a pet.

Your pussy.

[liv2ski]

We've been empty nested since August, one kid in MT and one in UT. Was supposed to have a 10 day road trip starting March 15 to visit and ski with my kiddos. I'm sure we'd be complaining about how they do nothing to help if they were home since both the Mrs and I are still working full time, but damn I miss em right about now.

My youngest lives with us. Now that she is laid off, she is cleaning house, cooking us gourmet dinners, washing/grooming the two big dogs, just about anything to stay busy. Once they are adults, if you get lucky and they turned out ok, they are wonderful to be with. Hang in there guys with younger kids.

[alias_rice]

I don't know if the Coronavirus is gonna kill me.
But if I have to spend another day with my wife and teenager daughter bickering over bullshit
I'm getting that van, heading to the nearest river and starting my life there immediately

You wanna trade for a few days? I have an 8 and a 3 year old, and both my wife and I are working from home. I think I’m starting to get the shakes.

[east or bust]

Once we have the anti body test, can those who are deemed "immune" still act as vectors to transmit the virus?

In a person who's built up antibodies, do those antibodies just guard against reinfection while still allowing the body to host the virus? Or do they actively attack and kill any viral load that is detected?

[glademaster]

You wanna trade for a few days? I have an 8 and a 3 year old, and both my wife and I are working from home. I think I’m starting to get the shakes.

It's 5 o'clock somewhere.