Electric Bike Thread

[rideit]

I think this discussion is really not needed.

Look at Europe and you see what's going to happen here in two years.
By that time there will be so many e mountain bikes that the land managers will accept them as fait accompli.

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This is fucking HILARIOUS.
I mean, the US doesn't even have universal health care...

[GoldMember]

Wrong forum.

What do douche bag ebikers read?


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[skysos]

Skysos ,
Where the heck is this well known 30 miles of single track in the Bay Area? I live in sf and can't think of anything you could piece together nearby nearly that length.

I'm sure you got a lot of interest from others. It's still a novelty. But people end up wrecking everything. Once there are many, I think it will be a different story w the trail Nazis out there.

When I used to ride my legal mtn bike, I would ride the Mid-Peninsula linkup https://www.mtbproject.com/trail/362...ninsula-linkup. It's 26 miles. If you take some wrong turns or side trips it can easily turn into 30. It's 70% single track.

The first thing they will ask you for is your drivers license, it is moving violation just like you can get a ticket for riding under the influence. Then they will run your license through the data base checking for outstanding warrants, then issue you a summons to appear in court. Also note that statue does not say anything about insurance rate impacts. Can not wait until you get your first $375 ticket and discover you have traffic school in your future.

keep telling yourself its all cool, i for one think the best way to deal with this is for MTB'ers to have solidarity against ebike access until ebikers get enough influence to change it.

Please read this: https://la-bike.org/resources/bike-ticket/

There is no need to carry your driver's license when riding a bike in California. I get the spirit of your post though, and rest assured there are fines on the table and I know that.

I've said it before: I think the best way is for all types of mtn bikers to work together rather than make up imaginary conflicts with each other. But hey, this is 'Merica and everyone's got to have something to get upset about.

[californiagrown]

Ebike encounter this morning. Riding up a fire road, taking it slow with my wife who is new to MTB. Guy goes by on an ebike and very smugly says, “Don’t worry, it’s not much further, you’ll make it.”

My wife shoots me a look, like, ok. So I pedal ahead and pass the overweight douche and say “hey look, no motor.”

If you’re gonna ride one of those, don’t act like you’re some kind of stud or pretend you’re on a regular bike, it’s not going to help people’s opinions towards them.

When words of encouragement get taken the wrong way haha

[Bunion 2020]

I've said it before: I think the best way is for all types of mtn bikers to work together rather than make up imaginary conflicts with each other. But hey, this is 'Merica and everyone's got to have something to get upset about.

Why should anyone get upset? Some bicycle manufacturers come up with a motorized machine and call it a bike and people take the ball and run with it by knowingly riding a motorized machine in areas designated as non-motorized. It isn't like trail access is a big deal these days.

Some people..... sheesh.

[toast2266]

I've said it before: I think the best way is for all types of mtn bikers to work together rather than make up imaginary conflicts with each other. But hey, this is 'Merica and everyone's got to have something to get upset about.

Ebikes aren't mountain bikes, therefore ebikers aren't mountain bikers. They're ebikers.

I'm still happy to work with ebikers though. Just like I'm happy to work with dirt bikers and other user groups. Ebikers acting like they're the same as mountain bikes sure as shit makes that harder though.

[grinch]

Ebikes aren't mountain bikes, therefore ebikers aren't mountain bikers. They're ebikers.

I'm still happy to work with ebikers though. Just like I'm happy to work with dirt bikers and other user groups. Ebikers acting like they're the same as mountain bikes sure as shit makes that harder though.

Come on. Jerome Clementz, Nico, Fabian, Absalon aren’t mountain bikers? I guess that’s your opinion, but just that, an opinion,albeit incorrect. I’d submit that a 140 travel regulated ebike is closer to a trail bike than a dh bike is but you might ride a dh bike so they’re ok amirite

[Redsmurfer]

https://b.3cdn.net/bikes/c3fe8a28f1a..._g3m6bdt7g.pdf

[reckless toboggan]

Come on. Jerome Clementz, Nico, Fabian, Absalon aren’t mountain bikers? I guess that’s your opinion, but just that, an opinion,albeit incorrect. I’d submit that a 140 travel regulated ebike is closer to a trail bike than a dh bike is but you might ride a dh bike so they’re ok amirite

Not when they are riding pretend to pedal eMopeds. Then they're moped riders.

Just like when a professional mountain biker rides a motorbike. It doesn't suddenly make that motorbike a mountain bike.

[grinch]

Not when they are riding pretend to pedal eMopeds. Then they're moped riders.

Just like when a professional mountain biker rides a motorbike. It doesn't suddenly make that motorbike a mountain bike.

“pretend to pedal moped”. When you continually put up nonsense like that you lose all credibility
Retro grouch morons are a dime a dozen . You probably , reluctantly, put a dropper on last year and now it’s the greatest thing you ever designed. Coming from an area that banned mtb for ideological reasons, you should know better. You were probably ok with that as long as you could ride your road bike and sport the grapes around in your lycras. How them tubes? I’m sure everyone will be back on them soon
Next level self righteous indignation in here is next level. Kind of understandable given the demographic. It’s the lack of self awareness to that self righteousness that’s the most shameful

[toast2266]

Not when they are riding pretend to pedal eMopeds. Then they're moped riders.

Just like when a professional mountain biker rides a motorbike. It doesn't suddenly make that motorbike a mountain bike.

This.

It continues to baffle me that people find this complicated.

It's not even motor specific. If I get on a bmx bike, I'm a bmxer. The bmx bike doesn't magically become a mountain bike, even though I'm primarily a mountain biker. That statement doesn't even change if I decide to ride the bmx bike on trails - it's still a fucking bmx bike.

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[grinch]

It’s a mountain bike with an assist. The subsection of ebikes in the mountain bike category. In most cases they’re fkn identical to non assist mountain bikes in the companies line up. It’s the same fkn sport, same tires,same suspension same brakes. The naysayers gloss over anything they can to cherry pick a negative. “They have motors so they’re a motor bike” even though laws have classified them as class1 and not a motor bike. They’re “pretend to pedal” even though direct comparisons have your heart rate higher over a the same time span as a reg bike. “They’re going to be mass conflict” although countless other countries have proven that false. “They’re going to be detrimental to trail access” once again unfounded . Hilarious listening to the so called authorities in here(newbs, been riding for 30 yrs apart from those 15 but I know what’s up, I lifted a rock and shovelled dirt, I went to a meeting with such and such, I’m sooo core I pedal a million miles up down around). They’re coming And not a damn thing you can or should do. Happy braaaaaping

[Bunion 2020]

Next level self righteous indignation in here is next level. Kind of understandable given the demographic. It’s the lack of self awareness to that self righteousness that’s the most shameful

Pot, meet Kettle.

It’s a mountain bike with an assist.

If that is the case then why the concern about going on a big ride and running out of juice?

I would counter that it is an e-cycle with a pedal assist.

The rest of your bullshit is insulting so at least you achieved your goal. Congrats.

[rod9301]

Not when they are riding pretend to pedal eMopeds. Then they're moped riders.

Just like when a professional mountain biker rides a motorbike. It doesn't suddenly make that motorbike a mountain bike.

Everybody is entitled to an opinion, but not to their own facts.

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[grinch]

Moron spin. What about people that shuttle on dh bikes, ride lifts , helis. What kind of bikes do you call them. Surely they have a greater level of assist, environmental impact. All the pussies that were scared to ride any technical dh trail labeled those bikers a different subsection akin to environmental terrorists. They said nobody needs to ride stuff like that. Labelled them downhill riders as a derogatory term and segregated them. Cast them aside so they could get theirs. Now as bikes are better and trails have progressed and have several different levels of trails, your average rider has developed to ride anything or atleast vision it and now it’s ok. Downhill rides aren’t the boogie man now, they know someone that does it , if they don’t, or friends of friends do it and they’re “cool” or “popular”.It’s all mountain biking. Same sport but if you want to segregate, two different riders on the same trail and identical bikes can be doing a different sport. Part of the reason the super skilled kids don’t want to ride with me ,or the other side of the coin, an old retro grouch xc’er doesn’t want to ride with me, or atleast most of the time . You do you, I do me. It’s all being out in the woods on a “mountain bike”. Some want to smash turns and others want to take pics of flowers. FU if you think you’re going to tell me what to do from your high horse. Hypocrites

[grinch]

You want to discuss, put up facts . I’ve put up tests to show heart rates, fitness out put. Ebikes assimilating. Let’s see your facts not blind conjecture from your high horse and your cut little names for ebikes. Conjecture and disparaging names give you no credibility

[plugboots]

I ride almost every day, and when I chat with people out on a ride, I tell them I'm not a cyclist, I'm a fly-fisherman.

[Bunion 2020]

What about people that shuttle on dh bikes, ride lifts , helis. What kind of bikes do you call them.

Ummmmm Bikes?

bi·cy·cle
ˈbīsək(ə)l/
noun
noun: bicycle; plural noun: bicycles

1.
a vehicle composed of two wheels held in a frame one behind the other, propelled by pedals and steered with handlebars attached to the front wheel.
synonyms: bike, cycle, two-wheeler, mountain bike, ten-speed, racing bike, recumbent, fixie; historicalpenny-farthing, ordinary, velocipede
"Rachel loved riding her bicycle down to the store"

[rideit]

Struggle Buggies are what the rednecks call 'em.

[LeeLau]

You want to discuss, put up facts . I’ve put up tests to show heart rates, fitness out put. Ebikes assimilating. Let’s see your facts not blind conjecture from your high horse and your cut little names for ebikes. Conjecture and disparaging names give you no credibility

I'm blown away you have such an attitude. I know for a fact that GCA can't get insurance if ebikes are allowed on their trails. I know for a fact that RSTBC's policy is that ebikes are prohibited. I know for a fact how the GCA has worked so hard and patiently for the biking areas you have now and the success the area has and will have. And that success is predicated on keeping land managers happy and hiking groups happy

Yet you're flapping away so hard about how ebikes are good. Good for you. Why is so hard to realize your opinion and your trolling means squat. RSTBC and the MEC goretex sombrero hiking crowd is who you're going to have to convince. And that crowd believes that a bike with a motor is motorized.

Why on earth are you trolling so hard? Is summer really that slow?

[TahoeBC]

Skysos ,
Where the heck is this well known 30 miles of single track in the Bay Area? I live in sf and can't think of anything you could piece together nearby nearly that length.

I'm sure you got a lot of interest from others. It's still a novelty. But people end up wrecking everything. Once there are many, I think it will be a different story w the trail Nazis out there.

In the South Bay Henry Coe Park, I think it’s the biggest state park in California allows ebikes. Ride 30 miles there and you have barely scratched the available single track available to ride which is not moto legal

[mtngirl79]

Leelau, do you know if pretend to pedal emopeds are allowed at Fromme? I couldn't find it anywhere saying yes or no.

[Bunion 2020]

In the South Bay Henry Coe Park, I think it’s the biggest state park in California allows ebikes. Ride 30 miles there and you have barely scratched the available single track available to ride which is not moto legal

Not moto legal?????

Howz that again?

[skysos]

In the South Bay Henry Coe Park, I think it’s the biggest state park in California allows ebikes. Ride 30 miles there and you have barely scratched the available single track available to ride which is not moto legal

Thanks, I will check that out. I mostly ride over at Wilder Ranch in Santa Cruz when I'm not in Tahoe, but it's a drive.

[TahoeBC]

Not moto legal?????

Howz that again?

The land managers have decided ebikes are ok as long as there pedal assist.