Where Do You Draw The Line On Drug Legality?

[St. Jerry]

Opinion for sure.
Shit been being smoked for eons, dude!
I know plenty people that don't smoke, when the shit is sitting right next to them!
And if you're going to go down the 'gateway drug' road, you better start with sugar, the real gateway drug!

Good people don’t smoke marijuana.

[Tippster]

This is oversimplified, but all 'drugs' should be legalized and dealt with outside of the criminal justice system (i.e. addiction and abuse are not a criminal problem, but a societal one). We should be striving for a society where people are well educated on the use and abuse of drugs...

We have that now for Alcohol and Tobacco, yet the problem isn't going away. Keep in mind that a large chunk of people (especially in the USA) refuse to be educated on anything they don't already "know," like the earth not being only a few thousand years old (or flat.)

I'm with Bobby Stainless. MJ (and maybe shrooms) should be as legal as Alcohol. Everything else runs far greater risks of over-consumption leading to death.

Old Goat, is there any evidence that shows the opioid epidemic is hitting pot smokers harder than "normals?" I'm a life long fan of the weed, but never liked an opioid high. Seems there's some anecdotal evidence out there suggesting MMJ is actually beneficial in keeping folks from getting hooked on painkillers.

[::: :::]

You can't be ok with alcohol and not be ok with weed. That's called being a hypocrite.

Please be aware that a lot of people grew up without any exposure to pot. To be hypocrites, they would have to be aware of both in somewhat equal terms.

[Kenny Satch]

This is oversimplified, but all 'drugs' should be legalized and dealt with outside of the criminal justice system (i.e. addiction and abuse are not a criminal problem, but a societal one). We should be striving for a society where people are well educated on the use and abuse of drugs; have easy and free access to support outside of the criminal justice system when abuse/addiction becomes a problem; and aren't completely alienated by the capitalist/neo-liberal world view that they feel the need to continually numb themselves.

Now where did I put my hash pipe...

I kinda agree but not instead of legalization all I would suggest decriminalize all of them and make MJ legal.

Treating attics outside of the criminal system would do society a huge favour
If a kid ends up in prison for using drugs that kid will leave a fucked up man. The prison system is dysfunctional and dehumanizing. It's just a money maker for those that profit from a Babylonian approach to "crime"


That's my 2 cents of Rasta thinking

[Kenny Satch]

Good people don’t smoke marijuana.

What they eat it ?
Define "good people"

[tuco]

Good people don’t smoke marijuana.

Totally, bro.
They grab unwilling women by the pussy. Everybody knows that.

What they eat it ?
Define "good people"

He's dropping sessions quotes.
I feel so trolled

[Bobby Stainless]

Old Goat, is there any evidence that shows the opioid epidemic is hitting pot smokers harder than "normals?" I'm a life long fan of the weed, but never liked an opioid high. Seems there's some anecdotal evidence out there suggesting MMJ is actually beneficial in keeping folks from getting hooked on painkillers.

https://www.usnews.com/news/articles...ical-marijuana

KQ linked this in another thread and it is the root of why Sessions is fighting legal Cannabis.

[bagtagley]

That shit hasn't really changed at all in at least 40 years. Well now you can get fentanyl too.

It’s even inflation proof!

[old goat]

Colorado was one of the leading states that started the movement to suggest that marijuana is not dangerous. And we’re going to find it, in my opinion, ripple throughout the entire American citizenry; and we’re going to see more marijuana use, and it’s not going to be good. We’re going to see more other drug use, illegal drug use, also, which is damaging.

I guess we'll see, won't we?

Good people don’t smoke marijuana.

Ignoramus or troll--neither one is something to aspire to.

[TheSilverSurfer]

We have that now for Alcohol and Tobacco, yet the problem isn't going away. Keep in mind that a large chunk of people (especially in the USA) refuse to be educated on anything they don't already "know," like the earth not being only a few thousand years old (or flat.)

I'm with Bobby Stainless. MJ (and maybe shrooms) should be as legal as Alcohol. Everything else runs far greater risks of over-consumption leading to death.

Old Goat, is there any evidence that shows the opioid epidemic is hitting pot smokers harder than "normals?" I'm a life long fan of the weed, but never liked an opioid high. Seems there's some anecdotal evidence out there suggesting MMJ is actually beneficial in keeping folks from getting hooked on painkillers.

Why should something be illegal if there's a risk of death?

Should Backcountry skiing be illegal? If someone goes out solo on a high risk day should they go to jail?

[Bobby Stainless]

Good people don’t smoke marijuana.

By that rationale, over half of the American population are "bad people".

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...ed-pot-n747476

[Tippster]

By that rationale, over half of the American population are "bad people".

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...ed-pot-n747476

Again... St. Jerry is just posting Jeff Sessions quotes.

[sb]

Most folks these days are vapin so maybe hes right?

[Kenny Satch]

Again... St. Jerry is just posting Jeff Sessions quotes.

I wonder what Jeff Sessions will think of Canada once we enter into the modern age of legalization ?

Now I'm worried we will become the most polite, considerate bad people in the entire world.
Fucking eh and Tabernac

[Bobby Stainless]

Again... St. Jerry is just posting Jeff Sessions quotes.

I know he is. Just responding to the quote, not St. Jerry.

Sessions has to pander to the assisted living crowd. It's all he has left.

[AK47bp]

I don't draw lines....



I SNORT'EM!!

[XXX-er]

Its true. I've wondered this about weed in Washington and other legal states.

When I was in high school, getting alcholol was harder than weed for sure because the weed dealer went to school! Other drugs would be around and then not... but weed was always there.

Alcholol was more complicated.

I wonder if that's how weed is, although I have heard there is still a pretty strong black market. I don't smoke so I don't know.

Exactly ^^ the stuff has been around for ever in HS /black market, or at least since the summer of love which would be 1967 so ... > 50 yrs

But Kids didn't buy it from Jay & Silent Bob at the video store, they bought it from other school kids on the black market and my GF's daughter (cool and in the know) tells me kids can get it if they want it so acess by minors hasn't changed

BUt what has changed is their parents wana smoke it, so how uncool is that OMG LOL! ?

In Canada the feds told the provinces MJ will be legal july 1 and promptly downloaded the responsibily/cost but they will most definatley want the taxes which is what they always do for everything and so the provinces are each making their own rules & distribution while dragging their feet like a whiney teenager, but legal MJ will still have to go up against the well established black market ... it should be very interesting

For me getting booze in HS was always easy cuz I worked with/was buds with that guy who came out of the womb with the 5 o'clock shadow, buddy would just wear his service station uniform and he never got carded

[dunfree]

Sessions has to pander to the assisted living crowd. It's all he has left.

sessions isn't pandering, he's always been that asshole. sessions problem with the KKK was some of their members smoked weed, not that they were retrograde racist shitheads.

"legal" opioids devastated parts of Appalachia and the Rust Belt. that shit was sold and marketed by the drug companys who knew they were selling that shit to pill mills that had no legitimate reason to move pills by the millions.

[St. Jerry]

tight labor market means lots of employers have stopped drug testing, except for positions (equipment operators & the like) that actually require it.

St. Jerry did a good troll with the sessions quote.

Cha'-ching winner winner. Wondered how long that would take.

About as long as my Patrick Bateman troll in Benny's Lady Gaga thread...

I'm on a Troll-Roll!

[XXX-er]

I wonder how that ^^ piss in the jar thing is gona play up here in construction camps and whatnot ?

I have heard more than one instance of really competent guys getting thrown out of camp for a little weed while guys coming in drunk/fighting are just given a nod and a wink

[dunfree]

I have heard more than one instance of really competent guys getting thrown out of camp for a little weed while guys coming in drunk/fighting are just given a nod and a wink

you've described the US establishment.

[Meanfruit]

you've described the US establishment.

He's also describing the hypocritical bullshit that goes on in Canadian workspaces as well. The boss will put up with a guy who's hung over to the nine's on site at 6 AM, but wants me to give a rundown on every person who partakes after work/on weekends. Double standards by right wing, fat, conniving, rednecks in safety vest and hardhats. And I don't even smoke, I just like being outraged

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[TheSilverSurfer]

I would never hire a pot head for a construction job. Stoner mistakes cost lots of money and can cost lives. Doesn't matter if you haven't smoked for the day, someone that burns regularly is prone to make stupid mistakes.

[dunfree]

He's also describing the hypocritical bullshit that goes on in Canadian workspaces as well. The boss will put up with a guy who's hung over to the nine's on site at 6 AM, but wants me to give a rundown on every person who partakes after work/on weekends. Double standards by right wing, fat, conniving, rednecks in safety vest and hardhats. And I don't even smoke, I just like being outraged

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i was pointing out that the US is fine with alcoholics - even generational ones - even if they could sell the country out like Aldrich Ames did, but has serious problems with even minor weed us. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aldrich_Ames

[Bunion 2020]

I would never hire a pot head for a construction job. Stoner mistakes cost lots of money and can cost lives. Doesn't matter if you haven't smoked for the day, someone that burns regularly is prone to make stupid mistakes.

Must be low O2 way up on that cloud of yours.

You do realize it is proven that alcohol damages brain cells and impairs cognitive thinking abilities.

I would much rather have/work with someone who burned last nite at 9:00 that somebody who had their last drink at 9:00.

Tell me about all the heavy construction sites you have worked on.