Too Many Tourists In Colorado

[Timberridge]

http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/s...hlight=Suicide

Sure, that's bad for the death insurance biz, but I would think if you're dead you don't need as much of the health insurance?

[Benny Profane]

Sure, that's bad for the death insurance biz, but I would think if you're dead you don't need as much of the health insurance?

Well, yeah, but, just trying to illustrate how unhealthy the ski town lifestyle can be. Drugs, drink, multiple trauma, and then emotional problems. Much worse with age.

[digitaldeath]

Well, yeah, but, just trying to illustrate how unhealthy the ski town lifestyle can be. Drugs, drink, multiple trauma, and then emotional problems. Much worse with age.

stuff it benny, you fucking knave

[Benny Profane]

What's the matter, can't find a beer can exhaust for your pimp Mecedes ride?

[capulin overdrive]

Not surprising that a farmer from Baca (a town that receives more tax dollars from the urban areas you ridicule, for road maintenance etc than Baca puts in) is pro TABOR.

Can you back up your claims with links to facts? FYI Baca is not a town.

Anyways, as far as Schools, you are correct. The schools do get State aid.

Roads I'm guessing is a wash? The County barely has any blacktop, and CDOT is funded by fuel tax and vehicle registration, so no redistribution of income tax there.

[fastfred]

Well, yeah, but, just trying to illustrate how unhealthy the ski town lifestyle can be. Drugs, drink, multiple trauma, and then emotional problems. Much worse with age.

it can be and then there are other people who live boring normal lives

"much worse with age" funny how people seem just fine and as they get older things do fall apart big time

[fastfred]

http://www.aspentimes.com/news/fores...-maroon-bells/

just read this article

sums things up pretty much

my only question is how is that fun being one of 81,000 people in a two month span to hop on a bus and go look at nature?

you look at the resources spent (6) full time rangers? dealing with these people, then again maybe it's money well spent

hanging lake in glenwood canyon is suppose to be an absolute shit show of people too, the FS isn't really sure how to handle that yet, but working on a plan

[LeeLau]

My experience is pretty limited but Winter Park was great. Was there in mid August to bike and overlapped a weekend. Crowds weren't bad. People were nice. Shar and I were surprised at how not busy it was. There was one restaurant where the server was a bit chippy (not too us but to others) but otherwise it was a lot less assholish then I would have imagined from the chirping on the TGR forums

http://www.tetongravity.com/story/bi...ding-near-town

http://www.tetongravity.com/story/bi...by-lift-served

[sb]

Praxis RX

[TahoeJ]

Well, yeah, but, just trying to illustrate how unhealthy the ski town lifestyle can be. Drugs, drink, multiple trauma, and then emotional problems. Much worse with age.

They've got nothing on the Wall Street scene...

[Shredhead]

They've got nothing on the Wall Street scene...

Or D.C. for that matter. My oldest works on the hill, youngest in Aspen.
Younger ones a hell of a lot happier now.

[Benny Profane]

They've got nothing on the Wall Street scene...

I don't get that. Those people grow up and lay off the drugs and buy a safe life with great medical care in the high end burbs. Closest they come to physical injuries is falling out of their Aeron chairs.

[WTF is dat]

it can be and then there are other people who live boring normal lives

"much worse with age" funny how people seem just fine and as they get older things do fall apart big time

It's because of all the old fucks who don't know how to offload off of chair 9 at Loveland!!


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[Joey Joe Joe Junior Shabadoo]

I don't get that. Those people grow up and lay off the drugs and buy a safe life with great medical care in the high end burbs. Closest they come to physical injuries is falling out of their Aeron chairs.

If that's how you think it works and the insurance industry is worried about physical injuries than you really don't get it. Chronic illness, disease and old age are far more expensive for insurance companies and rack up costs exponentially faster than a blown ACL. The 50-something Wall Street guy who buys a "safe-life" in the burbs and ends up with a heart condition from stress and being overweight and too many client dinners is gonna cost way more over the course of his coverage than some liftie getting knee surgery.

And in my experience most mtn town residents age much better and healthier than anyone living in the burbs. The drinking and partying and drugs, at least to the extent that it would actually effect long-term health, is much smaller subset of the population than you think and they tend to be younger and not long term residents anyway, but rather seasonal workers. Pretty much every one of my 30-something friends here in Aspen (with kids and 9-5 jobs like everyone else) is healthier and leads a healthier lifestyle in general than my 30-something college friends who now live in the burbs on the Front Range.

[Benny Profane]

30 is pretty young.

Cmon, mountain people can't afford good medical care, so, they let things slide. And one good injury can make one unemployed and unemployable, which happens a lot. Maybe mom and dad can help in one's thirties, but, chances are, they're gone when one hits fifty. That's when things really go bad. The city dude under all that pressure has probably cleaned up his or her act by then. If they haven't, they're fucked too, but, really, I just don't see it in my hood. The safety net is vast here.

[Meadow Skipper]

I don't get that. Those people grow up and lay off the drugs and buy a safe life with great medical care in the high end burbs. Closest they come to physical injuries is falling out of their Aeron chairs.

Listen to Bunny on this, he completely understands the mountain lifestyle because of spending part(s) of a season or two* in Summit Cty, and he also knows the true path to happiness as outlined above.

*Help me out here, B, how much time have you spent pursuing the dream in the mountains?

[Buster Highmen]

Not only that but clearly, there are no drugs or alcohol abuse on Wall Street. It's a healthy lifestyle.

[Benny Profane]

Go ahead man. Do the core local thing, no savings, no insurance, crappy pay, whatever. Be macho about it. Chicks really dig 50 year old drunks with bad knees and shoulders and no money.

[Meadow Skipper]

Go ahead man. Do the core local thing, no savings, no insurance, crappy pay, whatever. Be macho about it. Chicks really dig 50 year old drunks with bad knees and shoulders and no money.

You talking about me? I hope so, because that cements the case for your total cluelessness on the topic of mountain lifestyles.

[TahoeJ]

Benny how far can you get your head up your own ass? You clearly know jack shit about mountain lifestyles.

There's plenty of the same shit going on in suburbia, except more often than not they're also spending their waking hours outside of work watching TV and getting fat.

[hawkgt]

got no prob with tourists in colorado. got access to great lift serve skiing for cheap. tons of opportunies to go out an play without getting into the tourist conga line. fun to chat them up on the chair also but i like talking to people

keep em coming, we'll take their $$$

[Benny Profane]

Go ahead man. Do the core local thing, no savings, no insurance, crappy pay, whatever. Be macho about it. Chicks really dig 50 year old drunks with bad knees and shoulders and no money.

Whoops

[Foggy_Goggles]

Benny, I think your sense of demographics is a little fucked. People in the greater population have just as many challenges as those in the mountain communities. They are just less integrated. Don't you live in lower Westchester? Go check Yonkers or White Plains or Bridgeport and get back with me on the overall health of society.

I don't have the answers and I'm not sure there really is a problem. The problem I see from a local political standpoint is that the tourist economy is basically a closed loop. The "economic benefits" i.e. revenue, tax or otherwise, seem like they go back into expanding the tourist economy. The local municipalities have town councils stacked with realtors, developers, and hospitality business owners who all stand to benefit from having it be "busier".

[Benny Profane]

Benny how far can you get your head up your own ass? You clearly know jack shit about mountain lifestyles.

There's plenty of the same shit going on in suburbia, except more often than not they're also spending their waking hours outside of work watching TV and getting fat.

People from the burbs aren't dealing with destroyed limbs after hucking 50 feet the other day. Even if they did, on that Vail trip, the cube life accommodates such an injury.

Go over to gimp central, which is conveniently hidden here, and read and weep. Lots of sad stories in there. And many are young.

[Benny Profane]

You talking about me? I hope so, because that cements the case for your total cluelessness on the topic of mountain lifestyles.

Well, sure, there's always the trust fund to foam the runway. Have fun with that.