Too Many Tourists In Colorado

**Benny Profane** · 09-23-2016, 04:16 PM

Originally Posted by doebedoe

You know, I used to think you were just sort of a clueless person.

But this post shows you're really a complete fuck wit. You don't know mountain cultures or mountain people because you've only been a tourist. You've never gotten to know people. I can say that with confidence because you display the exact sorts of traits and thinking that people in tourist-havens hate.

TGR really needs an "don't show posts by XXXXX" button because you're parochialism is absolutely moronic. I'm gonna go for a bike ride in the fall mountains now. Have fun watching cable in suburbia.

So, just put me on ignore, genius. Have a nice ride! Don't get hurt!

**PNWbrit** · 09-23-2016, 04:17 PM

Originally Posted by Benny Profane

I have great dental insurance too. .

Due to the number of people who are unable to resist the overwhelming desire to punch you in the mouth?

**The SnowShow** · 09-23-2016, 04:18 PM

Too many people in general. Everywhere.

**berko** · 09-23-2016, 04:27 PM

Ever notice how happy people tend not to spend a lot of time justifying their life choices?

**Meadow Skipper** · 09-23-2016, 04:38 PM

Originally Posted by Benny Profane

Ok then, fine. Finally, some numbers. Now, hers numbers back. A home in high country, how much? A crappy old eighties two bedroom condo with high common fees within decent driving distance to good skiing and, well, civilization? Let's start at about 350,000, to be kind, maybe 400,000. A house? Oh boy, in most decent ski towns that you would actually want to live, unless, of course, you're happy with the female sheep out in the back yard, oh, well, half million for crap, and then work your way up? Sure, there's fixer uppers, if you like to fixer upper all the time. Good luck with that. Ok, so, let's settle at around 500,000 for a home. Not even going near rent, because we started this whole thing about being a poor 50 year old, right? You don't want to be in the insane mountain rental market as a poor, broken down 50 year old. Not good. So, that's a big nut to cover, a half mil house. Needs at least 50 grand to start, lots monthly for the loan and taxes and upkeep. Winter is hard on homes. Then there's the good car you're going to need, pretty new, because beaters are almost dangerous in the mountains. You can die broken down somewhere. Ok, then there's the skis and clothes and tickets and all the others shit you need to ski, because, hell, that's why you're there, right? That shit isn't cheap. Then there's the usual stuff. Like, food. Maybe cable. Gotta have cable. You won't be out partying every night. Gotta pay the mortgage, right? Shots are expensive.

So, you tell me. Does 60 grand cover that? 100 grand? Remember the IRS, dudes, they're first in line.

Of course it doesn't.

Because, if you survive and pay off the house, you won't have Jack when you're old, except for a crappy old house, like the rest of America right now. So, you wanna be 65, poor, still working, in a place made for young people and tourists? No.

I'm a little confused here, Bunny. Are you telling me that I can't own my house? It's been appraised at greater than your half-assed speculation. Oh, maybe I built up to it over the years - you know, I bought less expensive homes starting in my 20s, saved, built up equity, bought up…etc., you know, what most people do over a lifetime. I didn't start as a poor 50 year old, you moronic dumbass. No one does. You don't know shit. But you make a nice piñata for TGR.

Jesus, you're a fuckwit of the highest degree. And now you're claiming you wouldn't live here because the culture is vapid, based on your in depth knowledge from living in a short-term rental in Summit Cty for a season or two. Yeah, you clearly know what you're talking about, you fucking tourist.

Originally Posted by PNWbrit

Due to the number of people who are unable to resist the overwhelming desire to punch you in the mouth?

Heh.

**Danno** · 09-23-2016, 04:58 PM

Originally Posted by PNWbrit

Quick switch from it being financial suicide and cat food retirement to new excuse that he doesn't really like it there anyway.

what a puss.

yeah, that was funny. SHOW ME NUMBERS NUMBERS NUMBERS BECAUSE I KNOW ALL AND I CAN SEE THAT IT ISN"T POSSIBLE WITHOUT A TRUST FUND!!!

Oh, hmmm, that's a nice reasonably affordable place in the mountains. Well, I didn't want to live there anyway.

Maybe we should start referring to Benny as TGR's Emily Littella.

**Danno** · 09-23-2016, 05:02 PM

and FWIW, there are a number of 2br condos in Summit County for well under $300k, and a few closer to $200k.

**summit** · 09-23-2016, 07:05 PM

Originally Posted by Benny Profane

Ok then, fine. Finally, some numbers. Now, hers numbers back. A home in high country, how much? A crappy old eighties two bedroom condo with high common fees within decent driving distance to good skiing and, well, civilization? Let's start at about 350,000, to be kind, maybe 400,000.

I'll stick to Summit/Eagle because that is what you know (and I know).

Your prices are a little high there buddy, unless you are looking to live in the actual resort. In which case, I recommend a nice Deed restricted (which those poor locals can do) and you can get at 3bd 2ba walk to the slopes for $200K
https://www.trulia.com/property/3228...illon-CO-80435

You can find yourself plenty of 2bd places in Dillon, Silverthorne, Edwards, Alma, Eagle for mid 200K that are not deed restricted. Move to a more expensive market and yea 300s, but the mortgage on that 300K condo is less than rent these days.

A house? Oh boy, in most decent ski towns that you would actually want to live, unless, of course, you're happy with the female sheep out in the back yard, oh, well, half million for crap, and then work your way up? Sure, there's fixer uppers, if you like to fixer upper all the time. Good luck with that. Ok, so, let's settle at around 500,000 for a home.

You can find a small Single Family for about $350K in Silverthorne or Edwards
https://www.trulia.com/property/3054...horne-CO-80498
https://www.trulia.com/property/3148...81632#photo-12

But realistically $400-500 for a decent single family home on the open market in Dillon/Silverthorn/Blue River, Edwards/Eaglevail/Eagle. I'm not looking at downtown Breck or East Vail, but neither are locals who are buying houses.

There are some nice new construction deed restricted townhomes in Frisco in the 350-450 range.

But most locals don't jump into a house and they don't mind doing a fixeruper (remember they probably have construction experience or 10 friends who actively do it and will cut them a deal). Locals might have a condo for a bit, build up equity and appreciation.... then they buy a house when they are married maybe with kids, come into that $425K house with $150K from their condo sale after owning for 10 years, and they are now paying $1550 a month on a 20 year note which is way cheaper than rent and very doable for a couple that is probably making $75K. A bank teller and a retail shop manager can pull that much money easy. If it is a Nurse and an Engineer, well, they are going to be quite comfortable.

Or maybe they don't ever need a house. Yea maybe the same couple living in a condo would have a 3 bedroom Single Family in Kansas City, but they are happier in that condo and it is worth about the same. They are also OK being 10 minutes from the ski hill instead of staying the ski in/out condo you rent a month per year, but they also can ride their bike basically out their door, maybe walk down the street to throw on the XC skis in the winter or maybe throw their raft in during the summer and fish.

Bottom line is the mountains are about trading some trappings of suburban/city life for quality of life and being able to live where you play and go outside basically every day. If you can't handle sacrifice, you better be rich.

**Lindahl** · 09-23-2016, 09:20 PM

Originally Posted by Summit

A bank teller and a retail shop manager can pull that much money easy. If it is a Nurse and an Engineer, well, they are going to be quite comfortable.

Like you'd know anything about all that

**digitaldeath** · 09-23-2016, 09:23 PM

Originally Posted by Benny Profane

Go ahead man. Do the core local thing, no savings, no insurance, crappy pay, whatever. Be macho about it. Chicks really dig 50 year old drunks with bad knees and shoulders and no money.

This isn't about chicks, bunny. This is about lift loading competency. For some, it may take half a century to master. For others, one afternoon.

**digitaldeath** · 09-23-2016, 09:26 PM

This thread isn't fucking PURE

NUKE IT

**summit** · 09-23-2016, 09:38 PM

Originally Posted by Lindahl

Like you'd know anything about all that

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**Lindahl** · 09-23-2016, 09:48 PM

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**Benny Profane** · 09-23-2016, 10:22 PM

Originally Posted by Meadow Skipper

I'm a little confused here, Bunny. Are you telling me that I can't own my house? It's been appraised at greater than your half-assed speculation. Oh, maybe I built up to it over the years - you know, I bought less expensive homes starting in my 20s, saved, built up equity, bought up…etc., you know, what most people do over a lifetime. I didn't start as a poor 50 year old, you moronic dumbass. No one does. You don't know shit. But you make a nice piñata for TGR.

Jesus, you're a fuckwit of the highest degree. And now you're claiming you wouldn't live here because the culture is vapid, based on your in depth knowledge from living in a short-term rental in Summit Cty for a season or two. Yeah, you clearly know what you're talking about, you fucking tourist.

Heh.

Sheesh, and you call me bitter. Snarl, snarl.

**Benny Profane** · 09-23-2016, 10:28 PM

Originally Posted by digitaldeath

This isn't about chicks, bunny.

Almost always is, in the end. Everybody needs a little love, dawg.

And a nice pad. And a good car. New skis. Time off.

**Benny Profane** · 09-23-2016, 10:34 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

and FWIW, there are a number of 2br condos in Summit County for well under $300k, and a few closer to $200k.

Yeah, and an upstanding member of the bar who lives the life down in Denver would be proud to live in such a shithole with the trash.

**digitaldeath** · 09-23-2016, 10:58 PM

What a bunch of vain fucks bragging about their private property.

Bunny, you think the east coast is superior? Of course you do, you're an east coast dirt. We know ur type

**Benny Profane** · 09-23-2016, 11:03 PM

No fucking way. But, it's where I wound up. I didn't exactly plan it this way.

**TahoeJ** · 09-24-2016, 08:54 AM

Originally Posted by digitaldeath

This isn't about chicks, bunny. This is about lift loading competency. For some, it may take half a century to master. For others, one afternoon.

That's your best post in a while. lol...

**Danno** · 09-24-2016, 09:17 AM

Originally Posted by Benny Profane

Yeah, and an upstanding member of the bar who lives the life down in Denver would be proud to live in such a shithole with the trash.

The trash? Good god, you're an asshole.

If I had a decent job in summit and was trying to make a life there, I'd be happy to live in those places. More happy than I'd be living in Denver.