Tammy Wynette cannot be reached for help-Divorce advice

[stfu&gbtw]

Your whole "I have it so bad, people just need to understand me" schtick is a perfect example. .

...i'm just saying that people can pile on me if they want, though that it's odd considering most of you know the amount of death and destruction that was heaped on me at a young age and the horrible struggles to try to overcome something that at that time didn't really exist yet and is still highly stigmatized.

that says more about you guys than it does about me and if you can't recognize the gravity of my situation

your characterization of my schtick is all you. .

Uh huh...

[Timberridge]

it's the perfect storm - wyeaster and mtgrl - drama queen squared

Unless I'm not up on my aliases, it would be fun to have DBS in the mix too.

[wyeaster]

if that is directed at me, I don't badger you. If you think I do, then you really have a serious separation issue with reality

not at you and with regard to subsequent posts i certainly have never expected to be treated differently than anybody else. once i posted the shooting article, i had nothing to hide. it was not woe is me. i was merely sharing. i've seen plenty of people sharing very personal stuff without being attacked and plenty without alias. i assumed most people would not be assholes and i was right. it's odd how much several of you color in the spaces that only accounts for your worldview and not actual reality.

[wyeaster]

So the spook disappearance was related to the landlord stalker? Makes sense.

no, he's been gone for years. i said that. the disappearance of spook came after the forensic psychological analysis by the harvard doctor that conveyed the magnitude of the damage done by the shooting. i get how you are, 4matic. you don't have to keep trying to prove it.

[wyeaster]

Uh huh...

acknowledging it doesn't make it schtick. i'm sorry you are apparently that shallow.

[stfu&gbtw]

acknowledging it doesn't make it schtick. i'm sorry you are apparently that shallow.

You go girl!

[DBdude]

I deleted my last post

I really wish you well

you are correct about the posting of the personal, but they keep it to a minimum.

second, you wrestle with mtnherp, it doesn't do any good.

look, if it I take your stuff at face value, you have a disability. All the sensitivity training that has been drilled in my head is it's not what you can't do, but what you can do.

again, i'm really sorry where you are at.

I suggest suing your college for not providing a safe place, or getting alimony in your divorce.

I am not going to go after you again, or make suggestions.

Divorce was the most gut wrenching experience in my life. It was a pretty drama free divorce. we are still friends, live a mile a part and are dedicated to our kids. that said, it rocked my world, and me feel like a failure as a parent and a husband.

Once you go through that, you have to look at yourself and decide what you are going to do to make things better.

I wish you peace and luck

[My Pet Powder Goat]

Apparently you still havn't learned how to multi-quote. ;-)

Ignore the bullshit, dude. It'll just drag you down

[wyeaster]

thank you. divorce is painful but i feel like surviving the past 30 years should have been harder. i came here to partake of divorce advice. i would not have wrestled with anybody if i didn't feel like i had no choice but to address it so i don't have an asshole making references from here to eternity. i am trying to focus on what i can do, but having fought and fought to do the things i used to do but can't, part of the process is recalibration to possible and important. i think several of you mistake my intent. i didn't come back for a pity party. i didn't watch my family get hacked to bits in rwanda. i am aware that lots of people suffer. i came back to move forward in something i love and need. i shared the shooting article not for pity but because that is the sum of my life to now. it's me. i don't waste energy on people i don't like. i don't understand the hostility. i understand what some people are saying as an explanation, but honestly, all it says is that you can't help but heap your petty scorn at any opportunity. fine by me but don't pretend it's anything more than being an asshole.

[DBdude]

people are assholes. this place is no different

[DBdude]

divorce advise - take the you out of it - it's all about what is best for your child

seriously - if the shit starts to fly don't take it personally. you are going to have a relationship with the mother for many years

[TWINS]

I deleted my last post

I really wish you well

you are correct about the posting of the personal, but they keep it to a minimum.

second, you wrestle with mtnherp, it doesn't do any good.

look, if it I take your stuff at face value, you have a disability. All the sensitivity training that has been drilled in my head is it's not what you can't do, but what you can do.

again, i'm really sorry where you are at.

I suggest suing your college for not providing a safe place, or getting alimony in your divorce.

I am not going to go after you again, or make suggestions.

Divorce was the most gut wrenching experience in my life. It was a pretty drama free divorce. we are still friends, live a mile a part and are dedicated to our kids. that said, it rocked my world, and me feel like a failure as a parent and a husband.

Once you go through that, you have to look at yourself and decide what you are going to do to make things better.

I wish you peace and luck

Thankyou and I agree.

[m76b74]

I don't mean to interrupt the last few pages but I feel I gotta let this out somewhere and this thread is the next closest thing to group therapy I can find these days. That is until my lawyer claws back the fuckton of money my wife has pilfered away the past few months - then I'll pay for the real deal one on one shit. Couch included.

I'm so damn dark these days. Had a week with my son and it was the best ray of sunshine I've had maybe ever. Dropping him off today she punks me and brings along family. Not sure why, but I think it was so she could tell me a bunch of demands about how she wants shit to play out and have a witness there to back her up. Fuck her. I was there to say goodbye to my son and didn't hear one damned thing she had to say. I pay lawyers to listen to her now.

That said, she sent some seriously confusing signals the other day and I know I'm a kind soul at heart - and she knows that too so buyer beware I guess - but what she said has me so confused about how sorry she may be, how wrong I may have been, and what she may want in the future. Keep in mind while this is web-therapy I do own my role in this marital downfall. I never cheated but I sure could have been a better husband. I just thought we were stronger than that. Anyway, Despite all that I think the prudent thing to do is keep on drinking heavily, exercising daily, talking to my dog, working and not think too much because she is either setting me up to play me, is crazy, or is actually the sweetest woman in the world that I married.

Fuck, in the words of my spiritual adviser Charlie Brown, "I just don't know anymore".

Someone put this horse down already, I'm tired of being beat.

[DBdude]

record, or video tape the drop offs. it is inappropriate to discuss the divorce in front of your child. this is a tenant in divorce proceedings

it gets better with time

[MagnificentUnicorn]

Get a grip man. It's over. Treat her like that woman you married, be fair and be a man. This isn't the end of your life, it's a new chapter. Get your ducks in a row and move on.

[iceman]

...she is either setting me up to play me, is crazy, or is actually the sweetest woman in the world that I married.

Kinda hard to say from here but remember that she plotted that shit about the money, she didn't just make a bad decision one day.

[MagnificentUnicorn]

Kinda hard to say from here but remember that she plotted that shit about the money, she didn't just make a bad decision one day.

Maybe he's possessive and controlling, and she was worried. I'm not saying that's the case but so far all we know is his story.

[DBdude]

regardless, it's wrong, and is actionable in divorce court

[DBdude]

Get a grip man. It's over. Treat her like that woman you married, be fair and be a man. This isn't the end of your life, it's a new chapter. Get your ducks in a row and move on.

dude nobody wants to hear this when they are in the thick of it

[MagnificentUnicorn]

Of course it is. Men and women do this shit all the time during a breakup. There have been threads here encouraging men to do the same.

[MagnificentUnicorn]

dude nobody wants to hear this when they are in the thick of it

That's exactly what people need to hear.

[m76b74]

Kinda hard to say from here but remember that she plotted that shit about the money, she didn't just make a bad decision one day.

Yeah, trust me that isn't forgotten. At. All. I know this sounds crazy to you guys but I swear her sister is the one driving all this. My wife cut her out of her life for nearly the last decade after a big blowup and personally I couldn't have been happier. Anyway they reconnect last year and it's been like she's got this 'bad devil' on one shoulder telling her that I'm the reason they were apart (trust me I'm not, I rooted them to get back together, family is family no matter what) and that Im just as evil as her first husband. hence the re-enactment of her divorce. Just this time through her sister and she can cheer from the cheap seats. Cunt. (I don't use that word lightly)

Maybe he's possessive and controlling, and she was worried. I'm not saying that's the case but so far all we know is his story.

I know all you have is my word, and that's how this thread works for better or for worse. But when I say we had the marriage where you said I love you 50x a day and held eachother so fucking close at night because you wouldn't want it any other way... yeah, that was us. I never once had a reason to act controlling or jealous or anything until I caught her in 3 back to back to back blatant lies via phone/facetime. First time in my life with her that I've ever thought that way. And trust me, I've lived the opposite, it was a dream to never have to worry or be a suspicious asshole with my marriage.

dude nobody wants to hear this when they are in the thick of it

Thanks, I know what he was getting at, but right now that 'suck it up dude' shit just isn't resonating like the gym coach said it would.

[m76b74]

an aversion to a separated spouse bringing a friend or relative along on a custody swap comes off super scary and creepy.. just saying.

I like your perspective, I do. That said, you're not on the other end of a cheating soon to be ex-spouse who has had a lot of things in action for apparently months including hundreds of thousands of dollars of JOINT FUCKING MONEY moved into sole custody accounts online.

Just saying.

[buttahflake]

I'm still confused
Spook shot someone?
I need a set list

[MagnificentUnicorn]

Yeah, trust me that isn't forgotten. At. All. I know this sounds crazy to you guys but I swear her sister is the one driving all this. My wife cut her out of her life for nearly the last decade after a big blowup and personally I couldn't have been happier. Anyway they reconnect last year and it's been like she's got this 'bad devil' on one shoulder telling her that I'm the reason they were apart (trust me I'm not, I rooted them to get back together, family is family no matter what) and that Im just as evil as her first husband. hence the re-enactment of her divorce. Just this time through her sister and she can cheer from the cheap seats. Cunt. (I don't use that word lightly)



I know all you have is my word, and that's how this thread works for better or for worse. But when I say we had the marriage where you said I love you 50x a day and held eachother so fucking close at night because you wouldn't want it any other way... yeah, that was us. I never once had a reason to act controlling or jealous or anything until I caught her in 3 back to back to back blatant lies via phone/facetime. First time in my life with her that I've ever thought that way. And trust me, I've lived the opposite, it was a dream to never have to worry or be a suspicious asshole with my marriage.



Thanks, I know what he was getting at, but right now that 'suck it up dude' shit just isn't resonating like the gym coach said it would.

I have to say it, you sound like you had blinders on. Rarely does this kind of thing just come out of nowhere. That's not to say it's your fault but we men can be pretty clueless when it comes to women and relationships. I feel for you, I do, but all that resentment and bitterness will hurt you even if your ex is a total cunt.