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Thread: 4FRNT Renegade ~ Hand built in SLC.

  1. #601
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    those backcountry topsheets are so sick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D(C) View Post
    Knowing the skis you've liked, I think you'll be stoked. Are you going with 186s or 195s?
    186s. I've decided that anything over 190 is a lot of work at KH. And I'm getting lazy.
    It doesn't matter if you're a king or a little street sweeper...
    ...sooner or later you'll dance with the reaper
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    So the BC colabs are now for sale.

    $799

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    Thread needs more stoke:



    Got them midway through last season, just threw new clamps on them.
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    Superdigg: have you skied the renegades with tlt5 yet? Thinking about doing the same with a pair or hojis and tlt5p...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moralkaka View Post
    Superdigg: have you skied the renegades with tlt5 yet? Thinking about doing the same with a pair or hojis and tlt5p...
    Yes, but only once so far. Didn't think about the boots at all. Conditons were great so I never got pushed around. Take into consideration that I converted from tele last season (being used to flimsy gear) and I have crazy small feet (25,5) giving the boots less material to collapse. Carpettesting against my Krypton Pros with black tongues (C?) the TLTs aren't far behind when it comes to stiffness IMO.

    As a side note: Fast forward to 20-2mins in Dang! And take a look at what ski/boot combo Eric uses hitting the park

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    Quote Originally Posted by superdigg View Post

    As a side note: Fast forward to 20-2mins in Dang! And take a look at what ski/boot combo Eric uses hitting the park
    yes, that was cool. I saw that and couldn't believe it
    "Remember, if you don't do it this year, you'll be one year older when you do." -Warren Miller
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    I'm surprised these haven't sold out on Backcountry yet.


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    Just picked up the 196 with an MFD and deadbolts (probably 18s). I gots strong legs. Now where to mount...

    Live in Vail, 6'2" 190lbs. Going for at least a big cat ski trip this season maybe heli as well. Help a fella out? Pictures to come soon...

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    I mounted -1 of rec, basically in the middle of frec range. Works great for ne in deep pow and all around
    I need to go to Utah.
    Utah?
    Yeah, Utah. It's wedged in between Wyoming and Nevada. You've seen pictures of it, right?

    So after 15 years we finally made it to Utah.....


    Thanks BCSAR and POWMOW Ski Patrol for rescues

    8, 17, 13, 18, 16, 18, 20, 19, 16, 24, 32, 35

    2021/2022 (13/15)

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    PSA: Just saw a post on the 4FRNT StoreFRNT page that has demo Rens for $300 right now. Any SLC mags should head over if they are looking at a pair. Non-SLC mags I'm sure could call them and work something out.

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    Mounted at 86cm from the tail. Still seems like there is nothing in front of me.

    I think I will ski them for 1/2 the season and decide if they are good or need a mount change or size up to 196

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phildo_Baggins View Post
    PSA: Just saw a post on the 4FRNT StoreFRNT page that has demo Rens for $300 right now. Any SLC mags should head over if they are looking at a pair. Non-SLC mags I'm sure could call them and work something out.
    There is one less pair now
    It doesn't matter if you're a king or a little street sweeper...
    ...sooner or later you'll dance with the reaper
    -Death

    Quote Originally Posted by St. Jerry View Post
    The other morning I was awoken to "Daddy, my fart fell on the floor"
    Kaz is my co-pilot

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    Hey bird it is weird at first with the center mount. Even my 196 look short, but teh long tail and stiff large surface area make for a charging, shifty, blast of a pow ski. Give it a few days, ski a tight chute and some tight trees into a chute and you will never look back.
    I need to go to Utah.
    Utah?
    Yeah, Utah. It's wedged in between Wyoming and Nevada. You've seen pictures of it, right?

    So after 15 years we finally made it to Utah.....


    Thanks BCSAR and POWMOW Ski Patrol for rescues

    8, 17, 13, 18, 16, 18, 20, 19, 16, 24, 32, 35

    2021/2022 (13/15)

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    Quote Originally Posted by whyturn View Post
    Hey bird it is weird at first with the center mount. Even my 196 look short, but teh long tail and stiff large surface area make for a charging, shifty, blast of a pow ski. Give it a few days, ski a tight chute and some tight trees into a chute and you will never look back.
    Cool thanks Whyturn.

    I hope so! I am very excited to get on them, but I agree probably take a few days!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jblaski View Post
    I'm surprised these haven't sold out on Backcountry yet.

    I think I'd pick up a pair if I was skiing this winter... but I just can't justify it... They sure are pretty.

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    BAM. Got them. Thank you 4FRNT for the love letter a la Hoji and The White Room crew. I'm probably going to frame that...Click image for larger version. 

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  18. #618
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    I just can't get behind the new topsheet.

    It's not that it's bad or anything but I just can't get over how beautiful the crows are.
    Last edited by ASmileyFace; 11-03-2012 at 09:44 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ASmileyFace View Post
    I just can't get behind the new topsheet.

    It's not that it's bad or anything but I just can't get over how beautiful the crows are.
    wait till next year. or buy the awesome BC.com ones now.

  20. #620
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    anyone ski both Motherships and Renegades? Any comparisons?

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    i've skied xxls and renegades, stability wise they're right on par though the metal construction of the xxl makes them a bit more damp, they're more of a hold on for dear life and gun it type ski whereas the renegade can be much more nimble when needed, you can let 'em slide out there for days and then change direction on a dime. the main similarity is the absurd amount of stability you get on either of those skis, they differ quite a bit otherwise. hopefully that helps a bit seeing as the xxl and moship were pretty close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bestskieratsnowbird View Post
    wait till next year. or buy the awesome BC.com ones now.
    Just picked up a pair of 10/11's so I'm set for now.

  23. #623
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    RCamp, this link is mostly a Hoji vs Renegade comparison, but there are few section where I and others compare the Mothership to the Renegade:

    http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/s...ji-mini-review

    In short, the Mothership was the ultimate hard snow ski for me in the 110-125 mm underfoot class as far as holding high edge angles at speed. However, the Renegade and other skis with subtle tip-to-tail reverse camber (e.g. Katana) were so much more agile off piste that I ditched my Motherships after one season.

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    Just picked up a pair of last years in 196. Stoked to get them mounted up. Was debating between these and the Hoji, but found a great deal on the renegades so I pulled the trigger.

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    Picked up some of the 2012 196's (best topsheet ever). Going to decide later which to keep 186 or 196 or both!
    Last edited by Bird Blaster; 11-23-2012 at 06:51 PM.

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