You sure Bush won't be the one to bomb Iran???

[Tippster]

It would not be the start of ANOTHER war, just as Iraq and Afghanistan are not separate wars

Ohhh.... that's just so precious. "Look, mommy - We're fighting Terror!"

Please do tell how the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan were, are, or will be linked, other than by our troop presence....

[tuffy109]

we'd be linking them geographically, duh.

[tshirt.slinger]

Ohhh.... that's just so precious. "Look, mommy - We're fighting Terror!"

Please do tell how the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan were, are, or will be linked, other than by our troop presence....

Both are filled with prime Real Estate, obviously.

[13]

The Army doesn't drop bombs, the Air Forces do. And believe me, the Air Forces are not THAT over-extended.

it's that simple, eh?

wishful thinking. try not to forget who was on the ground in afghanistan guiding JDAMs into the laps of taliban in october of 2001 ... the army, with the help of indigenous afghani forces.

[AstroPax]

Please do tell how the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan were, are, or will be linked, other than by our troop presence....

By Iran, of course:



-Astro

[AstroPax]

it's that simple, eh?

try not to forget who was on the ground in afghanistan guiding JDAMs into the laps of taliban in october of 2001 ... the army, with the help of indigenous afghani forces.

Wrong. More like USAF TACP's.

Regardless, last time I checked JDAM's are GPS guided. I don't think those Iranian nuke facilities will be moving around very much.

Obviously, you don't have a clue, so stop acting like you know what you are talking about.

USAF TACP:


-Astro

[L7]

It would not be the start of ANOTHER war, just as Iraq and Afghanistan are not separate wars, but rather different campaigns/fronts within a single, larger war. Better characterized as an "expansion" of the current war.



The Army doesn't drop bombs, the Air Forces do. And believe me, the Air Forces are not THAT over-extended.

12-18 hours max, and Iran would be de-nuked for years, just like chopping their fucking balls off. That's what someone needs to do, castrate their ass!

-Astro

Actually I meant to write military but whatever. I don't differentiate that much about acts of war. You're right though if it's as easy as a few stealth bombers and the bombs are still available he's more likely to do it. I'm sure the 'collateral damage' to this separate sovereign nation will be within someone's tolerances if not those killed and I'm sure the intelligence is all bang on THIS time.

Of course it may motivate another few 100 million muslims to try to fly some jetliners into buildings in another campaign of their war. Maybe poison a water supply, subway, football game or whatever. Bush has been irresponsible enough and fucked up enough. To initiate another act of war on another sovereign nation with a handful of months on a final term would just put the icing on the cake for the shame he's brought your county.

[tuffy109]

By Iran, of course:



-Astro

i already made that joke, astrofag

[MTT]

We could pretty much eliminate their Air Force all
Air Defence all power stations, Oil Production And (I think you get it)

We could do that in a day just using the power from the to Carrier Groups we currently have sitting in the Persian Gulf.

WE don't need the Army or Marines unless we want to occupy Iran.

[AstroPax]

i already made that joke, astrofag

Yeah, well geography lessons are useless without pics, fluffybuns.

-Astro

[AstroPax]

this separate sovereign nation

This "separate sovereign nation" is funneling weapons into Iraq, and has vowed to wipe Israel off of the map.

This "separate sovereign nation" provides funding, safe haven, training, and weapons to terrorist groups including Lebanese Hizballah, HAMAS, the Palestinian Islamic Jihad, and the Popular Liberation Front for Palestine-General Command, among others, including safe-haven for al-Qaida and Ansar al-Islam operatives.

Nope, sorry. This "separate sovereign nation" doesn't get to play with nukes.

-Astro

[Razorslug]

.... That's what someone needs to do, castrate their ass!

-Astro

Most of us don't have balls on our ass.

[tuffy109]

Yeah, well geography lessons are useless without pics, fluffybuns.

-Astro

whatevs, bitey mcbitebite

[Pow4Brains]

This "separate sovereign nation" is funneling weapons into Iraq, and has vowed to wipe Israel off of the map.

This "separate sovereign nation" provides funding, safe haven, training, and weapons to terrorist groups including Lebanese Hizballah, HAMAS, the Palestinian Islamic Jihad, and the Popular Liberation Front for Palestine-General Command, among others, including safe-haven for al-Qaida and Ansar al-Islam operatives.

Nope, sorry. This "separate sovereign nation" doesn't get to play with nukes.

-Astro

Will someone figure out how to make the UN work so I don't have to pay for all of this.

[Arty50]

Liz Cheney encouraged the U.S. to draw more “red lines” in the Middle East, adopting an even harder-line than the Bush administration on key policies. When it came to Iran, however, Liz Cheney, seemed to be in full agreement with at least one administration official: her father. In her remarks, Cheney said the “time for diplomacy” with Iran is “rapidly coming to an end“:
Over the years, she said, there has been “no shortage of efforts to talk to them” — but to no avail: “We don’t have the luxury to have the debate we have been having about should we talk, should we not talk. The time for diplomacy here is rapidly coming to an end.“

"No shortage of efforts?" Are you kidding me. We haven't done jack squat to sit down and talk with them. I'd laugh if this weren't such a serious matter.

Oh and dear Mr. AstroPax and others who say this will just be a simple bombing campaign,

What is the absolute worst thing that can happen in Iraq right now? Perhaps the Iranian Army crossing the border and wreaking havoc on our already overextended troops in Iraq. If you think Iraq is a shitshow now, just wait until 5 minutes after the first bombs drop.

Fuck people. Wake the hell up. The LAST thing in the world we should be thinking about is attacking Iran. It'll make the Crusades look like a god damned picnic.

Edit: Oh and Mr. Ohmert should shut up or put up. I don't see any Israeli troops in Iraq and I'm willing to bet there won't be any in Iran either.

[summit]

Hopefully, this doesn't have to happen. Hopefully, there is a peacfull solution, but I doubt that. If it has to happen to prevent a nuclear Iran, then it had better happen in time. If it has to happen, several other problems can be addressed simultaneously regarding the fact that Iran is and has been the biggest state sponsor of terrorism for the last twenty five years or so.

Will someone figure out how to make the UN work so I don't have to pay for all of this.

The UN hasn't really worked since the 50s.

It will never work so long as Sudan can be on the UN Council for Human Rights.

It will never work so long as China and Russia can continuously stymie any attempt to use the UN to support peace becaues they would rather only use their votes to hedge against the West and to pay off their dictator supplier countries.

We should have a UDN... a United Democratic Nations...

[summit]

What is the absolute worst thing that can happen in Iraq right now? Perhaps the Iranian Army crossing the border and wreaking havoc on our already overextended troops in Iraq. If you think Iraq is a shitshow now, just wait until 5 minutes after the first bombs drop.

You are an idiot. The Iranian Army would be utterly crushed by the US. Fighting armies is what the US Army is best at.

Crossing the border might unite the Iraqis against the Iranians.

The Iranians won't do this because it is regime suicide. We will decapitate their regime and crush their armies. We may or may not invade at length, but we'll decimate the regime.

[Powow]

As much as I think attacking Iran is a horrible, horrible idea, the iranians trucking across the open desert would be guaranteed suicide.

[Rubicon]

Fuck people. Wake the hell up. The LAST thing in the world we should be thinking about is attacking Iran. It'll make the Crusades look like a god damned picnic.

Right, because when the radical fundamentalists have nukes things will be better

You can stick your head in the sand and play the pacifist if you want to but that won't solve anything, nor will your belief about Iran's good will toward Israel keep Tel Aviv from glowing in the dark.

Nations have been attacking each other for all of human history. Why do you suddenly think that it isn't possible now?

Serious question: If it is possible then why do you oppose the non-religious fanatics preventing the religious fanatics from accuiring the most destructive weapon known to man?

[Roo]

Remind me again. What was the last nation that Iran invaded?

[Roo]

You are an idiot.

and perhaps you would be better served learning how to hold a mature and civil debate without instantly resorting to name-calling.

[tshirt.slinger]

Will someone figure out how to make the UN work so I don't have to pay for all of this.

Jesus christ, fucking /signed.

[AKturnanburn]

does this help?

[hemas]

Could someone please remind me, what was the last country that tried to infleunse Irans leaders... and ended up messing things so badly that radical islamists rose to power...

Yuo weep what you sow... just like in Afganistan and Iraq...

[MTT]

Remind me again. What was the last nation that Iran invaded?

Possibly Lebanon by proxy?

If you consider sending armed militia or spies into another country to do harm to others, it could be argued that they have invaded Iraq and are committing acts or war against the Iraqi, US, and British Governments.

I'm not passionate about this but it would not be a stretch.

When the leader of Iran states that Israel should be wiped from the face of the earth? And provides financial incentive to carry out violent acts against people in Israel, Lebanon and Iraq that could easily be considered and act of war.
I hear they have a hand in allot of ugliness in some North African Countries also

The sad part is that I know that generally Iranian people are a very decent intelligent people who I find very pleasant to be around.

Just sayin.

I am really tied of the USA always being in the forefront when it comes to taking action against all the injustice around the world.

It would be nice to sit back ond let the UN and other free Countries deal with this shit.
When is that gonna happen.