2pm Today 12/13/07 Mitchell Report

[pappag]

Per ESPN:


"Eric Gagne and Paul Lo Duca were among other current players named in the report, both linked to Human Growth Hormone."

...

Concerning BALCO and Major League Baseball I requested interviews of all the major league players who had been publicly implicated in the BALCO case:
Marvin Benard
Barry Bonds
Bobby Estalella
Jason Giambi
Jeremy Giambi
Armando Rios
Benito Santiago
Gary Sheffield
Randy Velarde

[Odin]

Later that summer, Clemens asked McNamee to inject him with Winstrol, which
Clemens supplied. McNamee knew the substance was Winstrol because the vials Clemens gave
him were so labeled. McNamee injected Clemens approximately four times in the buttocks over
a several-week period with needles that Clemens provided. Each incident took place in
Clemens’s apartment at the SkyDome. McNamee never asked Clemens where he obtained the
steroids.
During the 1998 season (around the time of the injections), Clemens showed
McNamee a white bottle of Anadrol-50.386 Clemens told McNamee he was not using it but wanted to know more about it. McNamee told Clemens not to use it. McNamee said he took the

[Odin]

According to McNamee, during the middle of the 2000 season Clemens made it
clear that he was ready to use steroids again. During the latter part of the regular season,
McNamee injected Clemens in the buttocks four to six times with testosterone from a bottle
labeled either Sustanon 250 or Deca-Durabolin that McNamee had obtained from Radomski.
McNamee stated that during this same time period he also injected Clemens four
to six times with human growth hormone he received from Radomski, after explaining to
Clemens the potential benefits and risks of use. McNamee believed that it was probably his idea
that Clemens try human growth hormone. Radomski instructed McNamee how to inject human
growth hormone. On each occasion, McNamee administered the injections at Clemens’s
apartment in New York City.

[pappag]

The backlash from this could be insane.

Anyone named that will be playing come spring of 2008 is sure to receive the Rafael Palmiero treatment.

[Odin]

Mo Vaughn played as an infielder and designated hitter with three teams in
Major League Baseball between 1991 and 2003, the Boston Red Sox (8 seasons), Anaheim
Angels (2 seasons), and New York Mets (2 seasons). While with the Red Sox in 1995, he was
voted the American League Most Valuable Player. He played in three All-Star games.
Radomski said that Glenallen Hill referred Vaughn to him. A former major
league player has confirmed that Hill and Vaughn had a conversation in early 2001 in which
Radomski’s name was mentioned. Radomski recalled that Vaughn had an ankle injury and
called him for advice.401 Radomski told Vaughn that human growth hormone would help his
ankle heal faster.
Radomski said that thereafter he sold human growth hormone to Vaughn.
Radomski also provided Vaughn with a program for the use of the human growth hormone.
Radomski said that he delivered the substances to Vaughn personally. Radomski produced three
checks deposited into Radomski’s accounts and drawn on Vaughn’s checking account: two
checks for $3,200 each, and one check for $2,200. All of the checks are included in the
Appendix. One is shown below.

[atomicboy]

"This report appears to be a complete waste of time and nothing more than food for the media. After reading the first part of the report, I realized that I was reading nothing more than a book report that anyone in America could most likely produce. If the intent was to implicate players involved, then that is all that should have been done. The history and medical lessons appear that he is just trying to fill pages to impress the country." espn board but I agree 100%

millions of dollars, wasted time, and hype for this piece of shit. WTF? lets see how many pages we can fill with useless crap

[Odin]

Radomski said that Paul Lo Duca referred Brown to him in 2000 or 2001 when
Brown and Lo Duca were teammates with the Dodgers. Brown called Radomski and they spoke
about human growth hormone for one or two hours. Radomski said that Brown was “very
knowledgeable” about human growth hormone. Brown was placed on the disabled list in June
2001 with a neck injury and in July 2001 with an elbow injury. After Brown got hurt, he called
Radomski again and asked for human growth hormone.
Radomski said that he sent human growth hormone to Brown by overnight mail
and called Brown several times to make sure he had received it. Brown finally returned
Radomski’s call and confirmed he had received it. Soon thereafter, Radomski returned home
one day to find an express delivery package from Brown on his doorstep, wet from the rain.
When he opened it, he found that it contained $8,000 in cash. Radomski called Brown and told
him not to check the signature waiver box on the overnight delivery package when he was
sending cash, because the envelope was left on Radomski’s doorstep for several hours and could
have been taken.
According to Radomski, over the next two or three years he sold performance
enhancing substances to Brown five or six times. Radomski recalled that Brown usually
purchased multiple kits of human growth hormone. Brown sent cash, sometimes as much as
$10,000, to Radomski by overnight mail, and he used his agent’s business address as the return
address. At one point, Brown asked Radomski for Deca-Durabolin to help with an ailing elbow,
and Radomski sold it to him. (In 2002, Brown was placed on the disabled list with an elbow
injury.)
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Brown’s name, with an address and several telephone numbers, is listed in the
address book seized from Radomski’s residence by federal agents. Agents also seized an
Express Mail receipt dated June 7, 2004 addressed to “Kevin Brown, [address].” A copy of that
receipt is included in the Appendix and is shown below.

In the notes of the October 2003 meetings among Dodgers officials, it was
reportedly said of Brown:
Kevin Brown – getting to the age of nagging injuries . . . Question
what kind of medication he takes . . . Effectiveness goes down
covering 1st base or running bases. Common in soccer players and
are more susceptible if you take meds to increase your muscles –
doesn’t increase the attachments. Is he open to adjusting how he
takes care of himself? He knows he now needs to do stuff before
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coming to spring training to be ready. Steroids speculated by
GM.422
Less than two months later, the Dodgers traded Brown to the Yankees.42

[spook]

It only seems like forever, because grand jury investigations take a long, long time. He's never been liked, but I don't think he's been targeted. He could have just admitted it, like Jason Giambi did as part of the same proceedings against BALCO, and moved on. He didn't, and so the spotlight (and the investigation) stayed on him. Also, he's a colossal asshole.

Some light reading. Apparently Clemens gets killed.

i don't disagree, but the investigation by the reporters started long before the grand jury investigation, didn't it?

in the end, i don't care. i barely watch pro sports or any sports anymore for that matter. i don't think most brainless consumers care as long as they get what they want. they act indignant now, but that's just typical self-absolution.

i seem to remember them saying something about the strikes killing mlb. should be interesting to see what this does.

[Steven S. Dallas]

i don't disagree, but the investigation by the reporters started long before the grand jury investigation, didn't it?

i seem to remember them saying something about the strikes killing mlb. should be interesting to see what this does.

Yes, it did. It was the reporters' work which lead to the investigation.

They say the strikes killed MLB, but that McGwire and Sosa's bids for the single season HR record brought it back. Funny, now that their names are on that list (not that there was much doubt before).

Personally, I don't really care if players use steroids for legitimate medical use, and most people don't care at all. If, as said above, Mo Vaughn used 'roids to recover from an ankle injury, well, that seems okay to me. It's a different matter when a player uses them to become something he wasn't (like Bonds, or Brady Anderson). Obviously there's a very fine line there- if you're easily hurt, and use 'roids to come back faster, is that legitimate medical use or "becoming something you aren't"?- but I'll leave that to the bioethicists or whoever.

[Odin]

Regardless.

It only proves one thing.

Clemens likes it in the ass.

[Steven S. Dallas]

Nothin' but steers and queers in Texas. I'm not sure what category Clemens falls into, given his apparent use of livestock hormones.

[lionelhutz]

What strikes me is that this runs so much deeper than the names in the report. Based on mitchell's statements it's clear that there are so many more users than on this list.
I want all the windows to be opened. Baseball needs to air out the stink.

[Shen]

Basically, destroys Roger Clemens. So, I would say destroying the legacy of arguably the best pitcher is in baseball history is more than slightly significant.

[Steven S. Dallas]

Right. As with all sports, it's only important if you care. There is nothing intrinsically worthwhile about baseball or this entire debacle except maybe that they're selling you one thing (the Great American Pastime) and delivering you another (Steroid Freaks with Huge Heads).

[Odin]

There is nothing intrinsically worthwhile about baseball.

Quoting for the truth.

[steve]

so now what?

baseball has done next to nothing to the people they already knew were using roids..
spend millions on this report just to embarrass a bunch of people?

ok.

-steve

[Adolf Allerbush]

so now what?

baseball has done next to nothing to the people they already knew were using roids..
spend millions on this report just to embarrass a bunch of people?

ok.

-steve

I predict a shit ton of press conferences...probably starting with the Rocket...I assume Juan Gone will say a word or two....and basically anyone else that was significant in MLB.

How about that report? Could they have made it look anymore ghetto? Last I checked it 2007...looks like Mitchell used a typewriter. Guess a few million doesn't go as far as it used to...maybe they couldn't afford MS word.

[Grange]

I bet his wife's phone won't lose a connection now.

[powpig]

T’was the night before Mitchell, when all through the league
Not a player was sleeping; the world would soon see
The names were all waiting, those tested and not
And come early morning, some names would be caught

The owners all fretted, played cool, but were stressed
When visions of empty seats would mean rain outs at best
The fans would now realize that under the cap
Was a God’s honest cheater, a hero now trapped

When out of the courtroom, once Barry the batter
Did spring from the bench and receive such a clatter
But now in each city, no fan could remain
Convinced that their team had played clean in the game

The names on the list of the new-written doc
Gave the sorrow of winter to a summertime flop
When what to his wondering ears should arrive
But a bevy of names Selig wished he could hide

Then a little old man who Bud once had hired
Presented the outcome that should get him fired
More cutting than Peavy’s, as heavy as Webb’s
The names were all shouted, Bud wished he was dead

“Now Barry! Now Raffy! Now Big Mac and Sosa!
“Your names will not be held alone any longer!”
“Come Clemens? Come Gagne? Big Papi and Wagner?
“The gasp of your fans will drown out all the laughter!”

As loose change in sofas compiles through the year
The scornful remarks Barry’s haters held dear
Were high as the sky, but suddenly silent
As he now had friends in the “cheater” department

And then with a chuckle, the laughter re-grew
They pointed at Selig, “We’re laughing at YOU!”
He wondered aloud how they could be scoffing
“Because you’re as shifty as loose rabbit droppings!”

He was dressed all in red-face, but he knew the truth
For he had a hand in the falling of Ruth
And Aaron’s miraculous, jaw-slacking record
Was now in the shadow of steroids forever

His eyes, how they widened! His brow, what a furrow!
His cheeks were as red as a drunk John Turturro
His tense little mouth in a frown just as always
A look on his face like he’d pinched one off…sideways

The truth had come out, he had known all along
He’d known of the steroids, he’d seen them grow strong
Now Mitchell, the hired man, brought forth all the knowledge
Of wood bats whose stats were once reserved for college (ping!)

The press was all there…yes they, too, were witness
To players whose bodies defied normal fitness
Though Mitchell did not seek to slander their name
Reporters were part of the mess all the same

He spoke many words, that Mitchell did he
Erasing the fans’ Barry-Bonds-scapegoat-glee
The problem was bigger, much bigger it seemed
Than most of the hypocrite fans once believed

He sprang from his pulpit, no podium here
He’d spoken the truth of a game once revered
The heard him exclaim of the glove, bat, and ball
“These used to be sacred, now shame on you all!”

[Right Coaster]

From http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/12/13/ste...mes/index.html :

# Marvin Benard

# Larry Bigbie

# Barry Bonds

# Kevin Brown

# Roger Clemens

# Jack Cust

# Lenny Dykstra

# Eric Gagne

# Jason Giambi

# Troy Glaus

# Jerry Hairston, Jr.

# Glenallen Hill

# Todd Hundley

# David Justice

# Chuck Knoblauch

# Tim Laker

# Paul Lo Duca

# Kent Mercker

# Hal Morris

# Denny Neagle

# Andy Pettitte

# Brian Roberts

# John Rocker

# Benito Santiago

# David Segui

# Gary Sheffield

# Mike Stanton

# Miguel Tejada

# Mo Vaughn

# Randy Velarde

# Rondell White

# Gregg Zaun

[Benny Profane]

I, for one, am very grateful and proud that the resources of our great legislative branch has been used to expose this horror in these troubled times.

Note how many Red Sox are on the list. Could it be because Mitchell is a trustee of the team? maybe? huh?

[Adolf Allerbush]

From http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/12/13/ste...mes/index.html :

# John Rocker

Shocking!

[Tippster]

BTW - Mitchell is on the short list to be the next Commissioner.

I wonder how this will affect Andy Pettitte's new deal w/the Yankees.

[Benny Profane]

BTW - Mitchell is on the short list to be the next Commissioner.

Dude, after this debacle, that ain't ever happening in a million years.


edit: I may be wrong. We are talking about a high ranking politician and baseball owners getting together for mutual good. I can smell it from here.

[Right Coaster]

Shocking!

No shit! He admitted to juicing. -1 for the Commission.