50 years to the day

[MultiVerse]

Gaza and Israel were about to reach a ceasefire agreement. Then twenty-four Western countries demanded that Israel implement an immediate unilateral ceasefire. Hamas, welcoming and emboldened by so much support, backed away from terms it had already agreed to. Yet another example of Western Palestinian activists & Western media compelling politicians into prolonging the war.

Gazans now routinely protest against international media & reporters for refusing to cover any Palestinian criticism of Hamas and for their pro-Hamas coverage. The BBC even had to pull its documentary "Gaza: How To Survive a Warzone" from its streaming service and decided not to broadcast another documentary, "Gaza: Doctors Under Attack" because the production company was controlled by Hamas. The documentary was even narrated by the son of a Hamas government official

[summit]

What is a good low-bias news source these days on this topic?

[up an down]

The German DW news has a English language version that I think is decent.

[riser4]

No idea whom to believe anymore. https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/26/w...-android-share

[MultiVerse]

The NYTimes coverage is focused on putting out one story and, unthinkably, its truth and accuracy are not the drivers of what it writes. That’s because accurate reports would not sell nearly as well as its smears.

Take note of the qualified headline: “No proof Hamas routinely stole UN aid.” Hamas steals aid. There’s a reason NYT worded it that way. Because it's not in dispute Hamas steals aid. There's video of Hamas stealing aid and there's multiple videos of Hamas shooting Palestinians at UN aid sites. When Hamas isn't stealing aid entirely, Hamas taxes aid which is resold in markets. Hamas even posts videos of themselves feasting on aid.

Also note of the deliberate subheading accusing Israel of causing starvation in Gaza while burying the fact that over the past couple of months the UN deliberately fails to collect and distribute truckloads of aid. The UN repeatedly went days at a time without collecting any aid at all. This past week alone the UN held back 950 trucks filled with the humanitarian aid needed to alleviate the suffering of Gazans. Earlier this week the IDF showed dozens of international journalists, including journalists representing the NYT, large parking lots filled with aid inside Gaza that the UN was refusing to collect:



The UN has since started collecting aid again after the public shaming. The IDF also sent the NYT proof showing how Hamas systematically exploits humanitarian aid to fund its terrorist activities, which the article acknowledges towards the end. And contrary to the article's initial framing, since May, there has been no limits or restrictions on the number of humanitarian aid trucks that can enter Gaza. The biggest restriction over the past several months has been the UN refusing to collect & distribute aid inside Gaza.

[wooley12]

<p>

The NYTimes coverage is focused on putting out one story and, unthinkably, its truth and accuracy are not the drivers of what it writes. That&rsquo;s because accurate reports would not sell nearly as well as its smears. Take note of the qualified headline: &ldquo;No proof Hamas routinely stole UN aid.&rdquo; Hamas steals aid. There&rsquo;s a reason NYT worded it that way. Because it&#39;s not in dispute Hamas steals aid. There&#39;s video of Hamas stealing aid and there&#39;s multiple videos of Hamas shooting Palestinians at UN aid sites. When Hamas isn&#39;t stealing aid entirely, Hamas taxes aid which is resold in markets. Hamas even posts videos of themselves feasting on aid. Also note of the deliberate subheading accusing Israel of causing starvation in Gaza while burying the fact that over the past couple of months the UN deliberately fails to collect and distribute truckloads of aid. The UN repeatedly went days at a time without collecting any aid at all. This past week alone the UN held back 950 trucks filled with the humanitarian aid needed to alleviate the suffering of Gazans. Earlier this week the IDF showed dozens of international journalists, including journalists representing the NYT, large parking lots filled with aid inside Gaza that the UN was refusing to collect: The UN has since started collecting aid again after the public shaming. The IDF also sent the NYT proof showing how Hamas systematically exploits humanitarian aid to fund its terrorist activities, which the article acknowledges towards the end. And contrary to the article&#39;s initial framing, since May, there has been no limits or restrictions on the number of humanitarian aid trucks that can enter Gaza. The biggest restriction over the past several months has been the UN refusing to collect &amp; distribute aid inside Gaza.

</p>
<p>
&nbsp;</p>
<p>
If it was only like you say.</p>

[liv2ski]

Really great not to have heard from multiverse for a few weeks. I wonder what he thinks of more countries saying they're going to recognize Palestine and how Israel is committing genocide in Gaza. Fuck, even MTG calling it.

[jono]

Really great not to have heard from multiverse for a few weeks. I wonder what he thinks of more countries saying they're going to recognize Palestine and how Israel is committing genocide in Gaza. Fuck, even MTG calling it.

MTG is a tankie, so that checks out. Recall Hamas visiting Moscow.

[liv2ski]

MTG is a tankie, so that checks out. Recall Hamas visiting Moscow.

Not up on the term but I know she's a pain in the ass. And as far as visiting Moscow, yeah so what? If the USA hates you you go to Moscow that's just how the game is played. Regardless perceptions are changing and the world is telling Israel their policies are fucked up.

[MultiVerse]

live2ski and MTG, two Quaaludes in need of an inhaler new pairs of underwear. Two morons praising Starmer who accidentally incentivized Hamas to reject a ceasefire - makes perfect sense. A few Western politicians said they'd recognize Palestine in order to placate a vocal minority domestic audience with pious declarations that removed any incentive for compromise and — shockingly — sabotaged an imminent ceasefire and hostage release. Crazy how easy it is for low info morons to fall for the manufactured media consensus now trying to exonerate Hamas.

While Hamas sets the Western imagination on fire, in response Arab states called on Hamas to surrender. Countries in the region understand fanatic fascists who filmed their mass murder of Jews are bad for stability everywhere. Not just in Israel. Lebanon officially approved plans to disarm Hezbollah permanently, removing all their weapons and rockets. Shortly after the AP wrote a story calling Hezbollah's murderous, radicalized commanders were "survivors" and victims, even as Lebanon's own government made the decision that Hezbollah must be disarmed.

If countries like Lebanon are ever to be stable, prosperous and free then people like live2ski, who know nothing about history or the Middle East, and who side with fanatical Islamists need to sidelined. Modern. Day. Useful. Idiots. Better informed people understand why the Arab League condemned the October 7th attack and called on Hamas to release all hostages and lay down its arms

[bodywhomper]

Reads like AI

[MultiVerse]

sadly, the simple truth about Hamas's war in Gaza is to maximize Palestinian suffering, and then have Westerners blame Israel. The Bodywhompers' of the world reality confusion, willfully confusing reality with AI for example, is Hamas's main asset

[mcski]

I only counted two Betelgeuses

[MultiVerse]

If you whisper mcski three times, a Hamas "freedom fighter" materializes in the mirror

[bodywhomper]

Still reads like AI gibberish

[MultiVerse]

lol, that's also what old guy bodywhomper said about the Beatles and their yeah, yeah, yeah's

[summit]

Arab nations call for Hamas to disband and disarm.

[bodywhomper]

No thought, just a jab
When wit runs dry, insults drip
Silence would speak more.

[mcski]

One of the few upsides of the site going to shit lol

[MultiVerse]

Yeah, most days when the site was working Hamas supporters like mcski felt like Mussolini. On the upside, when it wasn't he felt like Mussolini in Italy.

@ bodywhomper: to wit, Arab nations also called on Hamas to release the hostages. Those three things 1) release the hostages 2) disarm Hamas 3) end Hamas political rule means Arab states' goals, even the Qataris are giving up on Hamas, are now aligned with Israel's goals in its war of defense against Hamas