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Thread: 50 years to the day

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    I didn't know he had brevity in him. Shuffleboard? Seriously? Cmon Guys, its all Pickleball these days.
    I have been in this State for 30 years and I am willing to admit that I am part of the problem.

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    Thats because the Palestine protests fucked Palestine's only ally in America, the Democratic Party, in 2024. This unleashed Trump/Netanyahu, and now youll play pickleball or be deported to a foreign gulag.

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    Younger Americans stand out from their older peers for having generally less positive views of both the Israeli people and the Israeli government, as well as for viewing the Palestinian people, Hamas and the Palestinian Authority relatively more favorably. On balance, U.S. adults under 30 express more favorable views of the Palestinian people than of the Israeli people (60% vs. 46%). Outside of this age group, however, the pattern is reversed. Indeed, Americans ages 50 and older are about 30 points more likely to report favorable views of the Israeli people than of the Palestinian people. Political partisanship also matters. Republicans of all ages express more favorable views of the Israeli people than of the Palestinian people, but the gap is narrowest in the youngest age group. Meanwhile, among Democrats, young adults tend to have much more favorable views of the Palestinian people than of the Israeli people. But Democrats ages 50 and older view the two people groups in a largely equal – and positive – light. Across all age groups, more Americans express favorable attitudes toward the Israeli government than toward Hamas. But the gap in favorability is just 10 points among U.S. adults under 30 (24% vs. 14%), while it becomes progressively wider among older Americans, rising to about 50 points among those ages 65 and older (55% vs. 3%). https://www.pewresearch.org/2024/03/...rity-and-hamas

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    Datacenters + Endowments + "Young skulls full of mush"

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    Nice recap of a successful marketing campaign. With enough of the right words said often enough one human will put 1000s of humans in an oven. Fact. Thats who we are now. Happy 4th
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    Probably a waste of time but. It IS possible to not support Israel and it's actions while feeling bad for the Palestinians and detesting Hamas. But keep right on putting people in neat little boxes.
    I have been in this State for 30 years and I am willing to admit that I am part of the problem.

    "Happiest years of my life were earning < $8.00 and hour, collecting unemployment every spring and fall, no car, no debt and no responsibilities. 1984-1990 Park City UT"

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    Sure. Just dont put it on FB or any recorded media and youll be safe.
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    The administration is “fiercely targeting antisemitism” while Donald Trump is dropping “Shylock” at his press conferences.

    It’s almost like antisemitism is really just being pro-brown people.

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    You could add Socialism in there as well. And it doesn't take being Pro-anything, all you have to do is ask that people are treated equally and according to the law and holy shit! Now you done it...
    I have been in this State for 30 years and I am willing to admit that I am part of the problem.

    "Happiest years of my life were earning < $8.00 and hour, collecting unemployment every spring and fall, no car, no debt and no responsibilities. 1984-1990 Park City UT"

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    In case anyone had any doubts about what's going on in the US right now: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...lubs-old-glory

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    Horseshoe politics at its worst. The left wing want to “globalize the intifada,” and the right wing is obsessed with "globalists". The reality is Jews are not controlling them, their mental illness is

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    Be careful generalizing the left. Im very "left" and I do not support Hamas or the Intafada.

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    You speaking to a drunk at closing time
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    Wooley's so old he believes life began when his sister got drunk

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    Since its creation in December 1987, Hamas has invoked militant interpretations of Islam to spearhead a Sunni extremist movement committed to destroying Israel. Hamas distanced itself from the longstanding Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO)—an umbrella organization for disparate Palestinian factions that ranged from Marxist to secular nationalists—by propagating resistance in the religious context of jihad, or a holy struggle and martyrdom. “Jihad is its path and death for the sake of Allah is the loftiest of its wishes,” Hamas said in its first statement in the late 1980s. Predominantly Shiite Iran has armed, trained and funded Hamas since the late 1980s largely due to its opposition to Israel and Islamic ideology.

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    Hamas is an Arabic acronym for the Islamic Resistance Movement. It has called on members of the other two Abrahamic faiths—Judaism and Christianity—to accept Islamic rule in the Middle East. “It is the duty of the followers of other religions to stop disputing the sovereignty of Islam in this region, because the day these followers should take over there will be nothing but carnage, displacement and terror,” it decreed. Hamas also rejected any prospect of peace or coexistence with the state of Israel. “Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors. The Palestinian people know better than to consent to having their future, rights and fate toyed with.”

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    Hamas was founded—in the early days of the first Intifada uprising—amid growing Palestinian fury over the Israeli military occupation of the West Bank and Gaza. The Hamas Covenant was largely crafted by Sheikh Ahmed Yassin, a quadriplegic and partially blind cleric who was the founder and spiritual leader of the militant militia in Gaza. The first Intifada raged sporadically until 1993, when Yasser Arafat of the PLO signed a partial peace agreement with Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin at the White House. Hamas rejected the so-called Oslo Accords. As the peace process deadlocked, Hamas deployed suicide bombers against Israeli civilian and military targets. A second Intifada erupted in 2000 after Ariel Sharon, the right-wing opposition leader and former general, made a trip to the Temple Mount to declare Israel’s sovereignty over the third holiest site in Islam. In 2004, Israel assassinated Yassin in a missile strike. The second Intifada ended in 2005, and Israel opted to unilaterally end its military occupation of Gaza, which it had captured during the 1967 war.

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    In 2006, Hamas ran openly for the first time in legislative elections and won the largest number of seats—over Arafat’s Fatah and other secular parties—in the Palestinian Authority’s legislature. It wrested physical control of Gaza away from the PA a year later, thereby cementing its political and military control of an area that is about the size of Philadelphia. Its statements since then have often sounded contradictory—in one moment calling for liberation of all the lands that were part of historic Palestine and in another moment claiming Hamas could live alongside another state based on the 1967 borders, when Israel seized Gaza from Egypt. In December 2012, Khaled Mashaal, a leader in exile, reflected the traditional Hamas hardline, “The state will come from resistance, not negotiation. Liberation first, then statehood. Palestine is ours from the river to the sea and from the south to the north,” he said in a speech. “There will be no concession on any inch of the land. We will never recognize the legitimacy of the Israeli occupation, and therefore there is no legitimacy for Israel… We will free Jerusalem inch by inch, stone by stone. Israel has no right to be in Jerusalem.”

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    In 2017, a revised Hamas manifesto included three departures from the 1988 charter, former U.S. diplomat Aaron David Miller told The Islamists. First, Hamas accepted the establishment of a Palestinian state separate from Israel —although only provisionally. Its statement on principles and policies said, “Hamas rejects any alternative to the full and complete liberation of Palestine, from the river to the sea. However, without compromising its rejection of the Zionist entity and without relinquishing any Palestinian rights, Hamas considers the establishment of a fully sovereign and independent Palestinian state, with Jerusalem as its capital along the lines of the 4th of June 1967, with the return of the refugees and the displaced to their homes from which they were expelled, to be a formula of national consensus.” Second, it attempted to distinguish between Jews or Judaism and modern Zionism. Hamas said that its fight was against the “racist, aggressive, colonial and expansionist” Zionist project, Israel, but not against Judaism or Jews. The updated platform also lacked some of the anti-Semitic language of the 1988 charter. Third, the document did not reference the Palestinian Muslim Brotherhood, from which Hamas was originally an offshoot.

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    After the deadly offensive by Hamas against Israel in October 2023, Ismail Haniyeh, who replaced Mashaal as head of the Hamas political bureau in exile, again invoked religious rhetoric. “Today, the enemy has had a political, military, intelligence, security and moral defeat inflicted upon it, and we shall crown it, with the grace of God, with a crushing defeat that will expel it from our lands, our holy city of al Quds, our al Aqsa mosque, and the release of our prisoners from the jails of the Zionist occupation,” he said. ... https://www.wilsoncenter.org/article/doctrine-hamas

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    When are Bibi and Pootin gonna die already? Feels like theyve been running things for the whole post-cold war era. Thats far too long for any 1 person to be in power. Apparetnly hamas and Israel are in the same hotel, on different floors, negotiating the latest ceasefire terms... i can only imagine the shenanigans that mossad is playing with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cisco Kid View Post
    Nice recap of a successful marketing campaign. With enough of the right words said often enough one human will put 1000s of humans in an oven. Fact. Thats who we are now. Happy 4th
    Thanks, hope yours went well as can be expected.

    You speak truth here. Was flip-flopping through a summer resort last week and everyone had their noses in their phones all the time. Everyone knows just how to pose for pics and link to social media...this in a planned community based on New Urbanism... Look how fucking vulnerable we&#39;ve all become.

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    Quote Originally Posted by californiagrown View Post
    When are Bibi and Pootin gonna die already? Feels like theyve been running things for the whole post-cold war era. Thats far too long for any 1 person to be in power. Apparetnly hamas and Israel are in the same hotel, on different floors, negotiating the latest ceasefire terms... i can only imagine the shenanigans that mossad is playing with that.
    Hamas are the bad guys, asshole.

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    When people say “Free Palestine” my response is to add: “From Hamas”


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