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  1. #17901
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    Ukraine

    “Ukraine is the most corrupt country in the world. And is full of Nazis. Russia is justified in invading it. Anyone who is against this war is a war monger and should be hung for treason.

    Oh yeah and at the same time the Ukraine legal system needs to be trusted implicitly.”

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    Heather Cox Richardson video today

    https://www.facebook.com/share/v/16CdWMPXd4/
    When you see something that is not right, not just, not fair, you have a moral obligation to say something. To do something." Rep. John Lewis


    Kindness is a bridge between all people

    Dunkin’ Donuts Worker Dances With Customer Who Has Autism

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    Ukrainian soldiers using a different type of drone

    https://www.instagram.com/p/DGvrcwaxMJ8/

  4. #17904
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    That would probably work good in the summer.

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    I posted this on FB, lost 3 friends in an hr. Let’s see how crooked this place is.

    I grew up as the poster boy for Neo conservatism foreign policy. I dont regret it, how I grew up, not much choice, I was actually apart of it. But I deeply regret my support of the Iraq war, and ended up voting for Obama. GW Bush was the worst president ever and killed millions. Have we learnt anything? A million young men have died in Ukraine, the history of that area is one conflict after another, they are both corrupt countries, with a shared history that we have no place in. And what’s worse, if you do think you understand Ukraine, fly the flag, you know every country we’ve ever helped has been left high and dry before. Joe Biden was not a dumb man. He knew the risks, and stated them himself. He did not give them our most advanced weapons and put restrictions on what we did give them, he also,said day 1, no boots on ground, not ever, he knew. Im also the only person I know that supported Joe, and his restrictions. But you can’t win anything like that, so why even try? To degrade Russian war making capabilities at the EXPENSE of Ukraine. That’s is, and has been our official plan. There is a reason the EU and NATO never wanted them, and I’ll remind everyone this war started in 2014. It’s not coincidence people care now, it’s just more Trump Derrange Symdrome, and its put us closer to a war that no one can Imagine, an extinction event. I will never forget, or forgive the position we find ourselves in. This affects us all, it’s not a game, or politically correct exercise. I have watched the hate for one man, compromise all the values that my liberal friends staked their lives on. War, censorship, etc It’s all gone, they’re now the neocons, they really are, by every definition and I hope they all take a good look in the mirror.

  6. #17906
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    Ukraine

    Clearly it’s something wrong with normal human beings, not something wrong with you!

    Trump just cut off intelligence sharing with Ukraine. Hes pro Russia. You’re pro-Russia.
    He’s a piece of shit. You’re a piece of shit.

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    Dad, get off your fucking soap box. No fucking wonder you lost friends.

    Just because you put too much thought into your regrets doesn't mean you should talk about it publicly or expect people to care. Look in the mirror yourself.

  8. #17908
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    The Trump admin has stopped sharing information about Russian missiles heading toward Ukrainian cities. So much for stopping the killing. Trump is worried about Russian invader deaths, not Ukrainian lives

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    Heh. Grok concludes with seventy five to eighty five percent certainty that Trump is a Putin compromised asset.

    I’d link but don’t really want to drive traffic to that site.

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    Ukraine

    So, you are ignored for your delusions in other parts of your life too?
    And still won’t consider that input to shift your outlook or do some introspection…

    Shocking

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    As many have noted, Trump's actions are indistinguishable from what a Russian asset would do anyway, so whether kompromat actually exists is a bit of a moot point. The funny/sad thing is, maga dummies are so in thrall to Trump that Putin could literally release anything and they would write it off. Imagine how they'd react to a leaked pee tape: suddenly all manly men would love getting women to piss on them, it's just natural, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cono Este View Post
    I can’t believe trump withheld aid with the demand ukraine fire the prosecutor investigating his son.
    What you are referring to is false. Disproven a hundred times, you simply are brainwashed and too much of a cuck to actually look into it yourself.

    An intellectual degenerate

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    Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by ::: ::: View Post
    So, you are ignored for your delusions in other parts of your life too?
    And still won’t consider that input to shift your outlook or do some introspection…

    Shocking
    Nothing he posts here is original or unique either.

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    ETA i’m trying to post a pic of a book/memoir titled ‘’how to lose friends and alienate people’’

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    The sum total of Conos life experiences, knowledge and choices have resulted in him ending up driving around St. Louis hawking insurance policies to poor people. So of course we should listen to him about global politics. Right?

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    Don’t you live off your wife?

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    haha.

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    I give Cono credit for hanging around here and reading other political pov's while continuously battling and losing most arguments. That tells me he must be learning...or

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    If he does he’s smarter than you…

  19. #17919
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    At the end of Trumps speech last night I couldn’t help thinking about the eerie similarities to Hitler talking about a glorious thousand year reich.

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    Jack straw, I am a completely different person than when I joined.


    I’ve been thinking about this for a couple yrs. Who to blame? We fight about Biden bs trump,in Afghanistan, but you cannot ignore the time line of Putin.

    He waited for us to exhaust ourselves from 20 yrs of gwot. It wouldn’t mattered who was in office, he thought we were spent, and we kinda are, even if just in spirit.

    The scope of the bush mistakes, are still rippling.

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    The ripples will be lost in the rogue waves. At least there is that.

  22. #17922
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    I had to look. You've been here since '05.

    Both sides of the isle have made many mistakes, but hindsight is 20/20. What trump is doing is unprecedented and in our faces. It's disgusting and not the "American way" in which we (Americans) were brought up to believe. He is a vile human and it disgusts me that he is our president and so many have joined his cult.

  23. #17923
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    Cono's prattle is meant to confuse people. Putin chose to invade Ukraine. Putin, and nobody but Putin, is to blame for the invasion of Ukraine

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    I don’t like today’s news. And I am a euro of sorts, family.

    One thing is for sure, Europe needed a foot in its ass. If only like sweeden, and to spend more on their own defense.
    No one is changing as long as someone else foots the bill. Not a new concept.


    This whole deal seems done. We’re the last to know. Back channels. It’s obviously, going to be 10x harder to get Ukraine to budge, but honestly, unless we are prepared troops in the next yr or two, what other option is there? Manpower. But the chances of keeping the peace are slim, and I worry more about Ukraine personally, that’s why they need to get something, or they will fight again.

    I and everyone else was wrong in the beginning. It’s actually a big victory they didn’t lose half the country. Live to fight another day, ask,France.

    But still high delta, it all falls apart and trump gets the exploding cigar

  25. #17925
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    Europe has provided more total aid than America. And by percentage of GDP America only ranks mid-pack. So there's been a lot of "change." Ukraine was also winning by destroying the Russian economy along with Russian weapons supplies, ammunition depots and fuel refineries using long range drones before Trump bailed Putin out.

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