Ukraine

[J. Barron DeJong]

- now hear the same from my own sources: HIMARS GMLRS targeting in Ukraine has been disabled by the Trump administration.

https://bsky.app/profile/atherton.bs.../3ljnppf7jpk2u

[JimmyCarter]

I never thought I would be this disappointed in my own country. America is over.

[Trackhead]

If it could be stated in one sentence, what is the suitable endgame for this war? Other than Trump dying of a massive stroke in the next minute or two.

[JimmyCarter]

If it could be stated in one sentence, what is the suitable endgame for this war? Other than Trump dying of a massive stroke in the next minute or two.

America of the past 50 years or so: Putin gtfo and we maintain stability in the area, providing assistance in rebuilding destruction because it’s the right thing to do and helps democracy around the world.

Trump America: we let Putin steamroll Ukraine and then offer to pay them for Ukraine’s mineral rights, because we’re fucking fascist idiots

[J. Barron DeJong]

Trackhead -

Ukraine gets to negotiate the end of the war at a time, and on terms, that are acceptable to Ukrainians.

In the mean time all free democracies should be providing all possible support to bring about terms that are acceptable to them and to punish Russia so that other dictators don't see that it's in their interests to start wars of aggression against free states.

[ex-powderbroker]

We are fighting a dictator backed by a traitor.

https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/s/khXaKuXldo

[Bunion 2020]

Ukraine gets to negotiate the end of the war at a time, and on terms, that are acceptable to Ukrainians.

In the mean time all free democracies should be providing all possible support to bring about terms that are acceptable to them and to punish Russia so that other dictators dont see that its in their interests to start wars of aggression against free states.

And all seized Russian assets go to help Ukraine rebuild.

[Meconium]

If American society could quickly compete with MAGA/Trump social media, communication and talking points......

[highangle]

If it could be stated in one sentence, what is the suitable endgame for this war? Other than Trump dying of a massive stroke in the next minute or two.

Russian armed forces returning to Russia.

Thoughts and prayers you never have to die of sepsis in a flooded trench defending your home.

[whitekingsalmon]

Fuck trump and the clowns that voted for him.

[Cono Este]

Germany just gave Ukraine 3.8 bn, only it wasn’t their money! Seized Russian assets.

Worthless people.

[Cono Este]

J baron.

We already know what Ukraine wants, they want Russia completely, 100% out. Not like the fighting would end at a border, because it would all be over by then.

[jackstraw]

The magatards eat this shit up. And fuckface bonespur says "fact check it". Did any of the 80k morans that liked this do so?

[The AD]

All that money and he can't afford a suit!

[skiballs]

I never thought I would be this disappointed in my own country. America is over.

Well, you’re dead, so you got that going for you.


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[MultiVerse]

It's important to recognize Trump is not just surrendering to Putin, he's surrendering to Xi too. China’s Defense Ministry says to Taiwan, “We will come and get you, sooner or later. We make no promise to renounce the use of force, which is targeted at the ‘Taiwan independence’ separatist forces and external interference.” China says in order to advance unification with Taiwan the country will boost defense spending by 7.2% this year

[RTsucks]

But can china pressure Ukraine to give us hunter's rolodex?

[Meconium]

Putin has Bill Belichick
Rolodex. I'm buying sheets of fuck Putin stickers and slapping them on the back of large lifted pickup trucks.

[ötzi]

Seems like that might not have the best risk/reward ratio.

[MultiVerse]

But can china pressure Ukraine to give us hunter's rolodex?

No need for agitprop anymore, Trump will just ask China to fiddle

[Trackhead]

How is the U.S. “surrendering” to Taiwan? And who the hell wants that problem anyway. Defending Taiwan from a Chinese military attack would probably result in the destruction of humanity, at a minimum the world economy.

[Trackhead]

Kinda fucking over the U.S. being expected to play world cop and simultaneously getting shit on at the same time. Everyone acknowledges they need our help, but then we simultaneously suck as a population at the same time.

[J. Barron DeJong]

"With great power comes great responsibility". Can't have your cake and eat it to.

Also, we're just shooting ourselves in the dick every single day:

Did anyone think this through? Some two-thirds of European defense procurement is spent on American weapons. If the U.S. indeed switched off the targeting of HIMARS in Ukraine - a country fighting a war that not just Kyiv, but most of Europe, consider existential
-buying any American technology will soon be considered a security risk.

https://bsky.app/profile/nosunkcosts.../3ljojcbrqa22h

[Trackhead]

In one breath were the imperialist war machine, in the next people are begging us to defend them from aggressors.

[J. Barron DeJong]

In one breath were the imperialist war machine, in the next people are begging us to defend them from aggressors.

Those breaths are coming from two different individuals.