America Just Kinda, Sorta Banned Cigarettes

[skialpy]

Good riddance. Cigarettes are evil.

[XXX-er]

with full leaglization it was easy to buy Gummies of all potencies instead of smoking MJ great cuz I cant really take the smoke

[Mofro261]

Hospitals.

The saddest thing I've ever seen
Is smokers outside the hospital doors

[californiagrown]

maybe it was mentioned earlier, but if they lower the nicotine per cigarette... doesnt that just mean smokers need to buy and smoke more ciggarettes to get their fix?


this seems like a money making ploy by big tobacco aimed at wringing out every last ounce of profit from their existing smoker base, before they fully pivot to the smokeless tobacco/vaping generations.

[Danno]

maybe it was mentioned earlier, but if they lower the nicotine per cigarette... doesnt that just mean smokers need to buy and smoke more ciggarettes to get their fix?


this seems like a money making ploy by big tobacco aimed at wringing out every last ounce of profit from their existing smoker base, before they fully pivot to the smokeless tobacco/vaping generations.

existing smokers might turn to things like the patch, or yeah, maybe they just smoke more.

but new smokers are much less likely to keep smoking, and will have a much easier time quitting when they decide it's time to quit, if the cigs don't have much nicotine.

[stealurface831]

pussy

i was risking life and limb just being on the premises. last year one of their employees was inflating some sort of heavy equipment tire outside of a cage and got blown to bits when it exploded. pretty sick shit.

[ötzi]

You can buy liquid nicotine easily, why couldn't people just drip some of that on their butts?

[Woodsy]

Hospitals.

Even a few years ago there was always a group of docs & nurses smoking outside LDS Hospital near my folks place

[AdironRider]

I've heard from multiple docs that there is a higher percentage of physicians that smoke than most other professions. Supposedly, since when they start out they all want to be surgeons, they pick up the habit since nicotine calms the nerves and they perform better, but then a significant percentage of them can't kick the habit once their career path is set.

[XXX-er]

A lot of the older MDs that are now of retiremnet age were smokers

PGRH chief of surgery told me he would write his operating schedule on a pack of player's and tack it over the scrub tub , he died of cancer

[dan_pdx]

i was risking life and limb just being on the premises. last year one of their employees was inflating some sort of heavy equipment tire outside of a cage and got blown to bits when it exploded. pretty sick shit.

Might be time to consider a different garage

[civilcoconut]

. . . they pick up the habit since nicotine calms the nerves and they perform better, but then a significant percentage of them can't kick the habit once their career path is set.

Everyone knows cigs are addictive and bad for you. Everyone that smokes makes the conscious decision to do so because they like it and understand the trade offs.

Huh?

[frorider]

From the article: ‘ The FDA estimates that nearly 13 million people—more than 40 percent of current adult smokers—would quit smoking within one year of the rule taking effect.’.

The article implies that FDA has researched the impact of 1 mg nicotine vs the current max of 17, and 1 is low enough that a lot of smokers will say Fuck it, not worth the money if I’m not getting a buzz. Going from 2 packs a day to 20 or 30 packs a day to get similar nicotine levels would indicate an impressive level of commitment.

[XXX-er]

I don't believe that ^^ people who are as addicted as fuck will continue to smoke

[stealurface831]

Might be time to consider a different garage

and miss out on the chance to witness a sick ass explosion?

[AdironRider]

Huh?

I'm just relaying what a doctor told me while we were outside smoking, after I was like hey doc, wtf you doing out here? I'm sure its bs and they just end up liking it.

[Danno]

From the article: ‘ The FDA estimates that nearly 13 million people—more than 40 percent of current adult smokers—would quit smoking within one year of the rule taking effect.’.

The article implies that FDA has researched the impact of 1 mg nicotine vs the current max of 17, and 1 is low enough that a lot of smokers will say Fuck it, not worth the money if I’m not getting a buzz. Going from 2 packs a day to 20 or 30 packs a day to get similar nicotine levels would indicate an impressive level of commitment.

I'm not sure people smoke for the "buzz" and will stop because they aren't getting a buzz anymore. I think the effect of this change, if implemented, will lead to many people going through some heinous withdrawals unless they get the patch or the nicotine gum. But yeah, many many smokers wish they could quit but try and fail. This change will make it much easier for them to succeed because it is forcing the withdrawal on them and smoking will no longer be able to defeat that withdrawal. So all they will have to do to quit is to beat a habit, not beat an additiction.

[jpcm]

for the longest time, the Sundowner had a room that was the "smoking room", hanging out in that thing could give you lung cancer in an hour flat!

The pool hall on the Hill allowed you to smoke so long as you were kinda in the back and weren't by the entrance.

The Rack! I spent a ton of time in that bar 99-03

[neufox47]

Planes and Restaurants were the two craziest looking back. Here's your table in the non smoking section. Meanwhile you are 10 feet away from someone actively smoking indoors...in the smoking section.

As someone with childhood asthma smoking at restaurants meant my parents couldn’t take us out to most places.

Going all the way to 1mg maybe too extreme but gradually ramping the nicotine down would be a good strategy. Smoking has such a massive negative health impact that it makes sense to regulate it down.

The cynic would point out that cigarettes are what kept Social Security solvent for many decades (although it hurt Medicare).

[alias#?]

I was in Boulder when they banned smoking in bars. Probably one of the first place in the country in 1996.
The Scumdowner said fuck that and instantly became the bar of choice.

The smoking room was so disgusting.

[XXX-er]

David Lynch a life time smoker just passed at 78 from emphysema

[warthog]

The smoking room was so disgusting.

The whole place was the smoking room when I was there. They didn't play by the rules for a while because there were no windows for the cops to catch people in the act.

[Danno]

The whole place was the smoking room when I was there. They didn't play by the rules for a while because there were no windows for the cops to catch people in the act.

by 2001, maybe 2002, they had a "smoking room" and didn't allow you to smoke elsewhere.

[alias#?]

by 2001, maybe 2002, they had a "smoking room" and didn't allow you to smoke elsewhere.

I don't think I would have gone there before 2000 or maybe 2001 and you could not smoke outside of the room. Was The Rack the one across from the bookstore that was kind of in a basement

I for one cannot wait to have a low nicotine cig. A real one will be a nice treat when I vacation in other countries.

[TBS]

Took my rig in for inspection last week. Pull in the bay but inspector is nowhere to be found. I venture deeper into the dimly lit garage. Movement from a corner. A spark, then the unmistakable orange of a lit dart. Dude is sitting between the fucking acetylene and argon tanks. Said he’d be with me in a second. Told him it was all good and got the fuck out of there.

Pussy
I used to work with guys who lit their ciggies with an acetylene torch.
And argon is not flammable.

At the same time, we had a mechanic clean a bunch of stuff with solvents, then struck a torch and the spark/fire ignited his solvent-soaked coveralls.

He was tagged with the nickname “Fireball” when he returned to work after the hospital stay.