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  • Nothing, Cat is out of the bag and this is the cost of our "freedom"

    17 10.63%
  • Prison Time for gun owners who lose or have their gun stolen

    31 19.38%
  • Background checks and a waiting period for 100% of transactions

    119 74.38%
  • No semiautomatic anythings...

    60 37.50%
  • Tax gun sales with additional fee to go to mental health

    70 43.75%
  • Register ALL firearms and require insurance (car analogy)

    103 64.38%
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Thread: If only there was something we could do...

  1. #7801
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    Electcshun cycle shootings.

    Who knew?
    watch out for snakes

  2. #7802
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    a couple days later in MD this time, a teen shot & killed another teen in school

    jfc

  3. #7803
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    Quote Originally Posted by sb View Post
    Electcshun cycle shootings.

    Who knew?
    You've gone off the deep end bro.

  4. #7804
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    Quote Originally Posted by ::: ::: View Post
    a couple days later in MD this time, a teen shot & killed another teen in school

    jfc
    I think that makes it 46 school shooting so far this year then.

    Great work everyone!

  5. #7805
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    I cannot believe we live in a country where a 14 year old kid gets an AR15 as a Xmas present.

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    What happened to let’s buy the kid some skies or maybe a snowboard or skateboard [emoji12] for Christmas ? We could go out and play as a family and maybe, the kids find a useful passion. Families that play together, stay together. I like dogs, kids and guns for hunting, but guns should not define us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The SnowShow View Post
    I cannot believe we live in a country where a 14 year old kid gets an AR15 as a Xmas present.
    It’s all the rage. You’re not a true conservative without a well armed family for Christmas.

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    That shit is just sick.

    We’re fuct.

  9. #7809
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    If only there was something we could do...

    We got a Christmas card like that one year from my sil
    It’s scary, embarrassing, and tone deaf all at once.
    It demonstrates just how little people think of gun lethality despite the performative safe trigger finger display.

  10. #7810
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    https://apnews.com/article/northern-...bf883fac523f36

    Pernik said that Arroyo’s family had reached out to various country agencies to get help for him but that “unfortunately, he did not receive that mental health help in time before this tragic incident.”

    ….

    Deputies found a crashed pickup truck and recovered eight firearms, including long rifles, shotguns and handguns, at the scene. After executing a search warrant on Arroyo’s camper, they found another seven firearms, including an illegal AK-47 assault rifle, two ghost guns, and about 2,000 rounds of various calibers of ammunition, Rosas said.


  11. #7811
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flounder View Post
    It’s all the rage. You’re not a true conservative without a well armed family for Christmas.

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    Nothing says Christmas like an instrument of death!!!


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  12. #7812
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    60 years for making threats to shoot up Helena High School. So grateful to the girl who had the guts to report him.

    https://www.bozemandailychronicle.co...da3ada16c.html

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    Well, he found God so they should be lenient.

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    Why don’t they all enlist in the service , better yet, go volunteer for the military in Ukraine

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trackhead View Post
    Why don’t they all enlist in the service , better yet, go volunteer for the military in Ukraine
    I know one guy that has multiple ARs that he uses to dress up and tramp around his property LARPing. I’ve known him since high school. He always used to talk about joining the military but he’s too much of a wuss. Thinks he’s a bad ass prepper but admitted in a recent group text that he’s so soft he’s never taken a shit in the woods. Military is too hard, easier to read war stories and spend time on AR-15.com fantasying.

  16. #7816
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    How much time does he spend in the Guns!!!! thread?
    j'ai des grands instants de lucididididididididi

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    Really, what difference does he make if he's charged or rots in jail? It's of such little solace to someone who lost a kid what happens to this turd. The laws are fucked because there are just enough people with rotten brains like exsparky to prevent this from happening with such alarming regularity that another huge portion of the population is just numb to it.

    Beyond deplorable.
    j'ai des grands instants de lucididididididididi

  19. #7819
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    Really, what difference does he make if he's charged or rots in jail? It's of such little solace to someone who lost a kid what happens to this turd. The laws are fucked because there are just enough people with rotten brains like exsparky to prevent this from happening with such alarming regularity that another huge portion of the population is just numb to it.

    Beyond deplorable.
    j'ai des grands instants de lucididididididididi

  20. #7820
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    ^ no idea what you are on about. What's deplorable is the parenting. And now parents are being held responsible for their gross neglect. As they should be.

    The point he makes at the end is now the law going forward is going to hold parents responsible for their minors actions.

    Gun laws are voted on and will continue to be. In states where the people vote to make firearms more restricted, they are.
    Obviously firearms should be kept out of minors hands.

    Now texting and driving on the other hand.

  21. #7821
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    “Parenting”?

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    Quote Originally Posted by byates1 View Post

    The point he makes at the end is now the law going forward is going to hold parents responsible for their minors actions.

    It's not hard to understand. Holding parents "responsible" will not bring back dead kids. Sure, this example in GA may have been egregious (although he might not have broken any laws) but most permissive states dont have storage requirements, allow basically anyone to buy and carry, etc.

    Red flags laws clearly don't work.

    What works everywhere else is making people prove they are responsible. That the weapons are cared for. Knowing where they are. We need to adjust the way we look at guns to prevent this kind of thing from happening all of the time. There is a way to do that while still permitting qualified people to buy/hold/hunt whatever. Some good old bureaucracy an solve problems - and just adding red tape and expense - would save lives too.

    You are also wrong that gun laws are voted on. Trump did the bump stock law by executive order. We haven't had meaningful legislation since the Brady Bill or Assault Weapon Ban 1994 that expired in 2004? Coming around on three decades for something the public wants proves how dumb and ineffective our politics are. We should be able to make them vote on shit like this, but there is one party that is bought and paid for. I forget which one and don't want to hurt anyone's feefees by getting political.

    Gun laws work, but they would be a lot better if it wasn't a patchwork of shit decided by states because guns are pretty easy to move around.

    Waste of time explaining this to people who just want to put fingers in their ears and complain about video games or phones though.
    j'ai des grands instants de lucididididididididi

  23. #7823
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    Quote Originally Posted by byates1 View Post

    The point he makes at the end is now the law going forward is going to hold parents responsible for their minors actions.

    It's not hard to understand. Holding parents "responsible" will not bring back dead kids. Sure, this example in GA may have been egregious (although he might not have broken any laws) but most permissive states dont have storage requirements, allow basically anyone to buy and carry, etc.

    Red flags laws clearly don't work.

    What works everywhere else is making people prove they are responsible. That the weapons are cared for. Knowing where they are. We need to adjust the way we look at guns to prevent this kind of thing from happening all of the time. There is a way to do that while still permitting qualified people to buy/hold/hunt whatever. Some good old bureaucracy an solve problems - and just adding red tape and expense - would save lives too.

    You are also wrong that gun laws are voted on. Trump did the bump stock law by executive order. We haven't had meaningful legislation since the Brady Bill or Assault Weapon Ban 1994 that expired in 2004? Coming around on three decades for something the public wants proves how dumb and ineffective our politics are. We should be able to make them vote on shit like this, but there is one party that is bought and paid for. I forget which one and don't want to hurt anyone's feefees by getting political.

    Gun laws work, but they would be a lot better if it wasn't a patchwork of shit decided by states because guns are pretty easy to move around.

    Waste of time explaining this to people who just want to put fingers in their ears and complain about video games or phones though.
    j'ai des grands instants de lucididididididididi

  24. #7824
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    Quote Originally Posted by ::: ::: View Post
    “Parenting”?
    Let me know what other basic concepts I can help you with

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    There’s smart and dumb and everything in between people in every country.

    There are great and horrible/deplorable parents and everything in between in every country.

    Yet in the US the 2a morons just say “don’t even worry about it bro - the US gun problems will be solved with votes. And good parenting and charging the parents after the fact. And oh yeah more Jesus in the schools”

    Go ahead and say that to the parents of the dead kids - I’m sure they are sorely missing your comforting words and reassurance.

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