If only there was something we could do...

[MagnificentUnicorn]

My point was that illegal doesn't stop anything. If you know where to go, you can buy the parts to convert bolt action to semi.

I’m a proponent of stricter gun control but no one is converting a bolt action rifle to semiautomatic. It’s basically mechanically impossible

[byates1]

No one said they could get a "legal" auto firing rifle in WA in an hour. But I could make 2 phone calls and set up a buy in 15 minutes.

Gangster AF bro. Let's partner up and start running guns. What could go wrong

[::: :::]

Now we’re back to a straw man argument. Of course good parenting is important. Accountability for one’s actions and those that they are responsible for is important. That has nothing to do with the ease of access to firearms, the thing that concerns the majority of people in this country. The cause of all the gun violence isn’t bad parenting and lack of personal responsibility is ease of access, legal or otherwise. Can you grasp that?

thank you for that clarity
my socratic effort wasn’t going anywhere fast

[Cisco Kid]

Gangster AF bro. Let's partner up and start running guns. What could go wrong

I'd only ever need 1. Never.

[::: :::]

While we argue, KY joins the chat
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/kentuck...ect-rcna170105

[byates1]

[Ted Striker]

I’m a proponent of stricter gun control but no one is converting a bolt action rifle to semiautomatic. It’s basically mechanically impossible

Unita Precision UP-15

"The UP-15 is a true bolt action AR rifle with a 3-lug bolt and a 60° throw.

Our billet, mil-spec lower will accept any mil-spec semi auto upper as well. So you can potentially have two platforms, using one lower."

[XXX-er]

My point was that illegal doesn't stop anything. If you know where to go, you can buy the parts to convert bolt action to semi.

[MagnificentUnicorn]

Unita Precision UP-15

"The UP-15 is a true bolt action AR rifle with a 3-lug bolt and a 60° throw.

Our billet, mil-spec lower will accept any mil-spec semi auto upper as well. So you can potentially have two platforms, using one lower."

That’s not converting a bolt action rifle. The lower receiver on an AR platform is the firearm, that’s what you fill the forms out for. Because they’re so modular you can build them in any number of configurations and calibers. It’s what appeals to gun folks and IMO one of the drawbacks of having that platform basically unregulated.


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[Ted Striker]

Yeah I guess I didn't articulate that well because I'm not a big gun guy (the last time I even shot one was in the 90s).

Obviously, manufacturers are attempting to be 50 state compliant, but my gun nut friends viewed it as a cheat code, i.e. "I legally bought a complete gun in Washington, and I just bought a some 'parts' in another state."

[sb]

Yeah, the Pedersen device was such a success.

[MagnificentUnicorn]

Yeah I guess I didn't articulate that well because I'm not a big gun guy (the last time I even shot one was in the 90s).

Obviously, manufacturers are attempting to be 50 state compliant, but my gun nut friends viewed it as a cheat code, i.e. "I legally bought a complete gun in Washington, and I just bought a some 'parts' in another state."

Like I said, that’s the problem with the AR platform. You can make it a .22lr, .223/5.56, .300 blk, 6.8, 9mm etc. a bolt gun, a short barreled rifle (with tax stamp) and a pistol with the same lower receiver which is what the ATF considers the firearm. Gun nuts consider it a feature not a problem.


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[Trackhead]

When I go to a gun range with our bolt action 30/06 or my kids .243 we typically leave if anyone there has an AR or similar as they are universally the dipshits of the range with poor muzzle control, reckless behavior, etc. Not always, but usually. It's a distinct difference in demographic than a bunch of dudes sighting in bolt action hunting rifles for the season, pulling off one round every minute or so versus shooting up bunch of trash and leaving it on the range for someone else to clean up.

People who pose Christmas photos with the entire family holding their stupid fucking assault rifles give the rest of us responsible gun owners a bad name. Photos like that should involve mandatory military service in some scary, active military zone. Maybe then they'd have perspective.

[plugboots]

Your range experience is exactly what my elk hunting, buddy in Montana says.

[Self Jupiter]

People who pose Christmas photos with the entire family holding their stupid fucking assault rifles give the rest of us responsible gun owners a bad name. Photos like that should involve mandatory military service in some scary, active military zone. Maybe then they'd have perspective.

Don’t you know there is a War on Christmas!!!?!?

[Ted Striker]

Gun nuts consider it a feature not a problem.

Exactly

universally the dipshits of the range with poor muzzle control, reckless behavior, etc.
...bunch of trash and leaving it on the range for someone else to clean up.

There are some gravel pit shooting areas in the woods east of here that notoriously fit that description. The poster children for "one bad apple..."

Don’t you know there is a War on Christmas!!!?!?

And now, Christmas is fighting back!

[Bunion 2020]

On Wednesday, a 15-year-old boy was arrested in Jackson County after police said he made statements about the Apalachee High shooting and was “planning on finishing the job to shoot another school in Jackson County.” He was taken to the regional youth detention center in Gainesville.

On Thursday — just a day after the school shooting — Gainesville police said a 14-year-old faces charges of terroristic threats and disruption of the operation of a public school. The teen is being held in a regional youth detention center.

A 12-year-old boy in Athens was charged with terroristic threats after threats were made on social media. Police said posts included images of firearms and the names of schools in Clarke County. He was detained by the Department of Juvenile Justice.

Two other teenagers were arrested in Hall County for online threats. Jaymon Alan Justice, 17, was charged as an adult with terroristic threats and disruption or interference with operation of public schools. A 13-year-old boy was also charged with terroristic threats and acts and disruption or interference with operation of public schools. Justice was taken to the Hall County Jail. The 13-year-old was taken to the regional youth detention center in Gainesville.

Two teens were arrested in two separate threat incidents in Forsyth County. A 15-year-old boy and a 14-year-old boy were charged with terroristic threats. The 14-year-old was also charged with disruption of schools. Both were taken to the regional youth detention center in Gainesville.

A 13-year-old boy was arrested in Newton County for threats made to Eastside High School, according to the Newton County Sheriff’s Office. He was charged with terroristic threats and is in custody of the juvenile court system.

On Friday, a juvenile was detained over making potential threats of school violence, according to the Oconee County Sheriff’s Office.

A 14-year-old was arrested in connection to school threats made in DeKalb County, according to the school district. The district said a 12-year-old was issued a summons for contributing to the threats.

Students at Archer and Meadowcreek high schools in Gwinnett County were arrested for making terroristic threats, according to the district.

A 13-year-old World Language Academy Middle School student was arrested after making threats in front of his classmates, according to the Hall County Sheriff’s Office. The sheriff’s office said the student said he was “going to be the next school shooter” and that he had a “mag” in his backpack.

Rome police said 17-year-old Nathaniel Porter Kozelle of Rome was arrested Friday and booked into the Floyd County Jail on charges of terroristic threats and acts, and disrupting the operations of a public school, school bus, or school bus stop. Police said Kozelle is suspected of making “threats of violence,” which led to schools within the Rome City School System going on lockdown for hours. Police said the threats had been “discovered and shared with school system administrators” before police arrested Kozelle at his home. Kozelle was not at school during the lockdowns, according to police.

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[Ted Striker]

Holy shit

[Mazderati]

GA and FL have something like 15% of their incarcerated in for-profit prisons. They have to be thrilled with this younger feeder system.

[skaredshtles]

<snip> for-profit prisons

[TBS]

GA and FL have something like 15% of their incarcerated in for-profit prisons. They have to be thrilled with this younger feeder system.

I think all of Bunion’s list occurred in GA.
But Yeah, holy shit.

[byates1]

Yep. Need to make guns harder to get. Incredible that guy would even think of buying his son an AR after this.

[ex-powderbroker]

Yep. Need to make guns harder to get. Incredible that guy would even think of buying his son an AR after this.

Yeah that’s what we’ve been saying.

[byates1]

Dust Ass Parents

[Trackhead]

Dust Ass Parents

I don’t understand half of what he said but I like the guy. No bullshit.