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  • Nothing, Cat is out of the bag and this is the cost of our "freedom"

    17 10.63%
  • Prison Time for gun owners who lose or have their gun stolen

    31 19.38%
  • Background checks and a waiting period for 100% of transactions

    119 74.38%
  • No semiautomatic anythings...

    60 37.50%
  • Tax gun sales with additional fee to go to mental health

    70 43.75%
  • Register ALL firearms and require insurance (car analogy)

    103 64.38%
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  1. #7876
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    Quote Originally Posted by byates1 View Post


    Dust Ass Parents
    I don’t understand half of what he said but I like the guy. No bullshit.

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    You got half?!?!?

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    A kid looking for a place to take homecoming pictures is shot by a responsible gun owner. "Oh shit, my gun went off."

    https://www.cbsnews.com/colorado/new...ission-photos/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazderati View Post
    A kid looking for a place to take homecoming pictures is shot by a responsible gun owner. "Oh shit, my gun went off."

    https://www.cbsnews.com/colorado/new...ission-photos/
    Thats a terrible story, never should have happened.


    I send junior staff out into the field to follow and document stream/rainwater paths, and as part of training we go over how to approach property owners. One of the things we tell them is to use common sense and to err on the side caution- i.e. if its a rural area and the driveway gate is closed, dont open the gate and drive onto someone's property. In the more rural areas, folks are more likely to take property rights overly serious and be quick to defend with a gun. I have to tread a fine line when i give this talk to some of our POC staff as i have to point blank tell them that they need to be extra cautious because of the color of their skin (not that they aren't already aware of that). It sucks, but the reality of the matter doesn't care how it "should be".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trackhead View Post
    I don’t understand half of what he said but I like the guy. No bullshit.
    Do you have kids. I'd be embarrassed as fuck to strike my child in the face. They'll grow up to hate you

  7. #7882
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    Your kid posts online w a gun. You going to enroll him in some feel good Lily white soundbath therapy?Buy him some lavender oil?

    Htfu pussy.

  8. #7883
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    Quote Originally Posted by k2skier112 View Post
    Do you have kids. I'd be embarrassed as fuck to strike my child in the face. They'll grow up to hate you
    Don’t take everything so literally please.

    At least the kid has a dad, a lot of them don’t.

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    2yr old shot by 3yr old.

    https://komonews.com/news/local/2-ye...-investigation


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    12yo in Bend brings loaded handgun to school, with a list of targets and a plan of attack.
    Arrested on charges of attempted murder and a host of other crimes.

    Dad is cited for improper storage of a firearm, with max punishment a fine of $2000.

    There would be harsher punishments for dad, but a bill passed in 2022 to (among other things) mandate stricter storage requirements, is stuck in legal limbo after a judge in the state’s least populated county declared it unconstitutional.

    I never thought once about gun violence when our kids were in school. I can’t imagine the angst parents feel today.

    ‘Murca fuk ya

  12. #7887
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    I heard about this guys story this week.

    He will be out in another 3 years. He stole 80 rifles in Iraq mostly machine guns, a bunch of pistols, ammo and C4.
    He sold them to under cover agents posing as cartel members.
    Sentencing is way too light. He should have gotten life.




    https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna40010324

    Nov. 4, 2010, 11:40 AM MDT
    A Navy SEAL in California and men in Nevada and Colorado have been arrested and accused of smuggling machine guns from Iraq into the United States for resale on the black market, federal authorities said Thursday.

    The special forces SEAL, Nicholas Bickle, 33, of San Diego, Las Vegas resident Andrew Kaufman, 36, and Richard Paul, 34, of Durango, Colo., were arrested Wednesday in those cities, the U.S. attorney's office in Las Vegas said.

    A complaint filed Oct. 29 and unsealed Wednesday in U.S. District Court in Las Vegas accuses the trio of conspiring to smuggle and sell 18 weapons and 14 other firearms since June to an undercover federal Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives agent in Las Vegas and Colorado.

    Bickle is accused of smuggling about 80 AK-47 weapons from Iraq or Afghanistan, including factory-made 7.62 mm Iraqi machine guns that the complaint said would be difficult or impossible to trace. Other weapons included Ruger handguns.

    "According to the other members of the organization, this was possible because Navy SEALs are not searched when returning from deployments," the document said.

    Bickle began SEALs training in August 2005 and did two tours in Iraq, said Lt. Cate Wallace, a Navy spokeswoman. He is currently assigned to a SEALs team on the West Coast.

    "This type of behavior is not reflective of the character within the Navy SEALs community," Wallace said.

    The investigation began on tip from a confidential informant who faced felony battery domestic violence and robbery charges in Nevada and is cooperating with authorities, the complaint said. Neither the informant nor the undercover agent is identified.

    Las Vegas-based ATF Special Agent Eric Fox alleges in the complaint that at least one of the accused coconspirators bragged that the guns were from the military in the Middle East and would be untraceable.

    The complaint cited text message and bank records, and said at least one sale involved 10 AK-47 rifles for $1,300 each, and six handguns at $300 apiece.

    The conspiracy charge alleges that Bickle, Kaufman and Paul engaged in firearms dealing without paying a special tax, possessed a machine gun that wasn't registered in the National Firearms Registration and Transfer Record, and transferred an unregistered machine gun.

    If convicted, each faces up to five years in prison and a $250,000 fine.

    A statement from Daniel Bogden, U.S. attorney in Las Vegas, said Bickle was due to appear Thursday in federal court in San Diego.

    Paul appeared Wednesday in federal court in Durango, and was ordered held pending another hearing Thursday, Bogden said.

    Kaufman was due Thursday before a federal magistrate judge in Las Vega

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    It’s amazing how little money it takes for some folks to be corrupted.




    fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by m2711c View Post
    It’s amazing how little money it takes for some folks to be corrupted.




    fact.
    “…for a little bit of money…”

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    What gets me is, the machine gun guy steals 80 guns, c4 and a bunch of pistols, sells a more than a doze to a "cartel" and gets three years less than this guy who stole fewer cars.

    What does that say about America?

    https://www.cpr.org/2024/10/24/dia-v...ars-in-prison/

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    Quote Originally Posted by exsparky View Post
    What gets me is, the machine gun guy steals 80 guns, c4 and a bunch of pistols, sells a more than a doze to a "cartel" and gets three years less than this guy who stole fewer cars.

    What does that say about America?

    https://www.cpr.org/2024/10/24/dia-v...ars-in-prison/
    That we have a serious problem?

  17. #7892
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    Open carry guy in the grocery store today. I wanted to ask so many questions. Obviously that's what he wanted. Gave him a wide bubble instead. I mean, seriously? This is VT. The grocery store isn't dangerous. Unless maybe the deli guy gets your order wrong and you want to settle the score. Concealed carry without a permit is legal here. Be a discreet douche instead of a blatant one.

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    Comparing Deaths from Gun Violence in the U.S. with Other Countries

    Highlights

    Globally, the U.S. ranks at the 93rd percentile for overall firearm mortality, 92nd percentile for children and teens, and 96th percentile for women.

    The U.S. has among the highest overall firearm mortality rates, as well as among the highest firearm mortality rates for children, adolescents, and women, both globally and among high-income countries.

    Nearly all U.S. states have a higher firearm mortality rate than most other countries. Death rates due to physical violence by firearm in U.S. states are closer to rates seen in countries experiencing active conflict.

    Only 12 countries have a rate of self-harm by firearm as high as that of the U.S.
    Quote Originally Posted by Downbound Train View Post
    And there will come a day when our ancestors look back...........

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    Quote Originally Posted by riser4 View Post
    This is VT. The grocery store isn't dangerous.
    it’s not about being dangerous, it’s about making a point. and getting attention! and exercising muh freedom! and also maybe a little bit of a vigilante fantasy. and rabble rabble you can take my gun out of my cold hands right meow
    j'ai des grands instants de lucididididididididi

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    Quote Originally Posted by ex-powderbroker View Post
    it’s not about being dangerous, it’s about making a point. and getting attention! and exercising muh freedom! and also maybe a little bit of a vigilante fantasy. and rabble rabble you can take my gun out of my cold hands right meow
    Open carry if you are so visibly weak that it would otherwise make you an easy target for physical violence (i.e. little old lady, have a noticeable physical handicap, etc). Conceal carry for all other situations so you don't make yourself a primary target if a situation arises where you need to use the firearm.

    If you do not follow the above logic while carrying in public, you are a fucking asshole and deserve to have a 911 active shooter call made against you everytime you go out in public.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ex-powderbroker View Post
    it’s not about being dangerous, it’s about making a point. and getting attention! and exercising muh freedom! and also maybe a little bit of a vigilante fantasy. and rabble rabble you can take my gun out of my cold hands right meow
    I am fully aware. That's my point.

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    Fucked

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    Quote Originally Posted by riser4 View Post
    Open carry guy in the grocery store today. I wanted to ask so many questions. Obviously that's what he wanted. Gave him a wide bubble instead. I mean, seriously? This is VT. The grocery store isn't dangerous. Unless maybe the deli guy gets your order wrong and you want to settle the score. Concealed carry without a permit is legal here. Be a discreet douche instead of a blatant one.
    I wanted my apple honey ham shaved!!!!! Not Sandwich cut dammit!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by riser4 View Post
    I am fully aware. That's my point.
    WELL THEN I AGREE DAMMIT
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