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[skier666]

Skiing wise, I have no complaints with the Strive 16 MN...

However, even with toe adjustment cranked to the max, the sliding AFD keeps sliding out under my non-gripwalk soles. This is especially really skiing hard or cranking carves on the groomers? Thoughts? My initial thought was to just put gripwalk soles on (I can) and then test.

[Skip Dooley]

Hmmm.... That's weird. Just got a pair to mount on some new DPS Koalas.. Did you find a fix?

[dcpnz]

^^ double check forward pressure. Too little FP has been the cause of mysterious sliding afd issue for me in the past (on other bindings though not specifically the strive)

[Skip Dooley]

Can confirm, the strives feel fine. In fact, they make the STH2's look massive in comparison.

One weird design choice that I don't understand is the stepped toe rollers. Photo below. The rollers have a step in them, so your boot is only laterally supported by about 2-3mm of plastic roller rather than the full ~6-7mm. In fact, this is clearly wearing down the toes of my new gripwalk boots made with a softer PU.

If I adjust the toe height such that my toes sit just below the wider step, I can physically push up on the toe and feel 2-3mm of play vertically as my toes pop up above the step.

Anyone from Amer here to comment?


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It’s weird, that step is supposed to be in contact per the mount instructions (below). But it sucks it’s eating your boot. I had a pair of Full Tilts that would get eaten by my Pivots back in the day. Maybe a bad batch of plastic?





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[altacoup]

Skiing wise, I have no complaints with the Strive 16 MN...

However, even with toe adjustment cranked to the max, the sliding AFD keeps sliding out under my non-gripwalk soles. This is especially really skiing hard or cranking carves on the groomers? Thoughts? My initial thought was to just put gripwalk soles on (I can) and then test.

Buy attacks or pivots.


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[roQer]

I have some issues with my Strives 14 GW with alpine sole boots as well. There is noticeable lateral or rotational movement in the toe when putting lateral pressure on the ski tip, i.e. in forced turns across the fall line. Didn't have any prereleases up to now but the movements are pretty annoying. I usually ski Pivots and at the same DIN (9) I don't experience any movement at the toe with same boots whatsoever. The forward pressure is set correctly according to the manual. Other than that the binding works pretty well and there is not a big difference to a Pivot skiing wise, maybe slightly less elasticity and a little higher stand and delta.

[skier666]

Buy attacks or pivots.

Salomon for life...thought about Pivots but the head honcho at Moment doesn't think I'd like the Pivots given my love to the salomon STH heel.

I'll switch to GW and go from there.

[FloridaSnow]

Salomon for life...thought about Pivots but the head honcho at Moment doesn't think I'd like the Pivots given my love to the salomon STH heel.

I'll switch to GW and go from there.

why not both 😉

[Supermoon]

Maybe I’m in the minority, but I dislike pivots. They are hard to work on, hard to get in and out of, heavy. I like tyrollia and Salomon better

[skier666]

Alright, switched to Gripwalk soles and issue still continuing with the sliding AFD. Next step, is to really dial in the forward pressure and loosen to the toe height and go from there.

[Skip Dooley]

Got a couple days in on my new Strive 14s. No AFD issues. The step in is very solid and re-assuring. I did perceive some slight up/down movement on one heel. I moved the heel a hair forward and this resolved.

Went through a bunch of re-frozen chunder, and over-shot a few side hits, taking really hard landings. Not a single pre-release at my normal setting. Happy to have the lighter weight binding.

[ApexSkua]

What's the verdict on Strive? Corbetts has a good deal on 'em right now. MNC vs GW? 12/14 vs 16?

[FloridaSnow]

What's the verdict on Strive? Corbetts has a good deal on 'em right now. MNC vs GW? 12/14 vs 16?

theyre great. Mnc doesn’t have the auto toe so you have to manually adjust the height. 16 has the sth2 heel.

[Skip Dooley]

What's the verdict on Strive? Corbetts has a good deal on 'em right now. MNC vs GW? 12/14 vs 16?

I’ve really liked the 14s. All prior alpine setups for the last 20 years have been P18s. I don’t ski that hard now. I like the lighter weight.




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[skier666]

AFAIK, The 16 is the only one the robust old Salomon heel. They sound nice when clicking in which makes me smile.

After adjustments, I now have two pair of the MN 16. Since this late Spring, the daily driver and a fat ski encountered no issues with pre-release or the toe AFD.

[XtrPickels]

https://www.evo.com/reviews/ski/atom...ve-16-bindings

Random review from Random ski shop employee?

No Thanks.

[FloridaSnow]

https://www.evo.com/reviews/ski/atom...ve-16-bindings

sounds exactly like my experience with my strive 16’s vs my sth2 16’s. Cant tell any differences other than not having to worry about the wing adjustments on the sth2’s

[Bandit Man]

Random review from Random ski shop employee?

No Thanks.

I hope you’re kidding. He’s an informed and prominent contributor here.

If you already knew that and you’re being sarcastic, my apologies.

[gregL]

Random review from Random ski shop employee?

No Thanks.

Not random.

[Supermoon]

I guess I'm not tapped in "with the kids" but I've heard nothing but good things about the Strives. I have the 16 MNC on my Blanks and they have worked just fine.

[Ver iz ze money LePowski?]

Apologies if this has already been covered ad nauseam, but will a 90mm brake fit on a 100 mm ski without a ton of bending? Lots of deals to be had on 90mm brakes right now. Not sure if these are like pivot brakes or not. Thanks!


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[FloridaSnow]

Apologies if this has already been covered ad nauseam, but will a 90mm brake fit on a 100 mm ski without a ton of bending? Lots of deals to be had on 90mm brakes right now. Not sure if these are like pivot brakes or not. Thanks!


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not ideally. I had to use 115’s for 110 skis.

[Ver iz ze money LePowski?]

not ideally. I had to use 115’s for 110 skis.

Right on. Thanks for the info!


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[westoxified]

depends what you want your brakes to do.
make it easy to pull skis apart? go bigger.
catch your pant cuffs? go bigger.
there’s a lot of plastic you can grind off if needed. i always go 5-10mm narrower than the ski with little to no grinding. granted my skis are long, straight and my boots are relatively small so as always YMMV

[skinipenem]

Stive 12/14 use the Warden 11 hole pattern and the Strive 16 uses the Warden 13 template. I found this out the hard way.

Anyone know what the strive 13 gw DEMO bindings use?

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