Who's driving a VW AllTrack?

[jacob_dbu]

It’s nuts how much I see these going for used. What’s going on?

[uglymoney]

It is the market in general. Nothing in particular due to the Alltrack. When/if the market shifts the bottom will drop out on these like with all VW's since the beginning of time.

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[Dantheman]

So they want 21k for a six year old car that was 28 new? My manual is priceless so maybe worth doing it. I have no sunroof and don’t miss it.

You're not wrong, but this seems to be the reality of the current used car market, especially if you want a MT AWD wagon with a clean title.

It’s nuts how much I see these going for used. What’s going on?

Perhaps you have been living under a rock the last few years, but the used car market went completely bananas post-2020 and is only just starting to correct. Also, manuals tend to get premium pricing since there's less supply.

[alpinevibes]

Dan - I would try to sit in the seats first. As a scrawny, athletic person I find them terrible. I bring a pillow to sit in my wife's Alltrack for anything over 30 minutes or else my sciatic nerve goes haywire. May not be a problem with others and no idea if it's the same with other VW seats but I don't get it in other cars that I've ridden in. Only the Alltrack. Agree with everyone that the car is great, just wish the seats treated me better.

Yes on the seats, JFC... my ass falls asleep about an hour into a drive and I spend the rest of the day fidgeting and driving with weird body angles.

While we've had multiple leaks in the sunroof [and I'm probably too lazy to do the drain cleaning myself] I still really like it and use it a lot when it's sunny. I don't see it as a death sentence for ownership of the car, just something to keep in mind - especially if you're not parking in a covered space.

I think we've decided to hold off on trading ours for an iD4, but man do I still want to cash in on the $20k value while it's still high.... Crazy on a six year old car.

[jackattack]

SEL trim is worth it for the seats and adaptive headlights alone. I know because I had an SE Golf SW and the SEL seats in the Alltrack fix everything I disliked about the SE.

Trade in for ID4 has been discussed in our household, that $7500 tax credit is tempting.

[Dantheman]

Dan - I would try to sit in the seats first. As a scrawny, athletic person I find them terrible. I bring a pillow to sit in my wife's Alltrack for anything over 30 minutes or else my sciatic nerve goes haywire. May not be a problem with others and no idea if it's the same with other VW seats but I don't get it in other cars that I've ridden in. Only the Alltrack. Agree with everyone that the car is great, just wish the seats treated me better.

Yes on the seats, JFC... my ass falls asleep about an hour into a drive and I spend the rest of the day fidgeting and driving with weird body angles.

Damn, boner killer.

[Daywalker]

Damn, boner killer.

Would you prefer that service for free or for $21k? To be fair, there are a lot of people NOT complaining about this.

[jacob_dbu]

Perhaps you have been living under a rock the last few years, but the used car market went completely bananas post-2020 and is only just starting to correct. Also, manuals tend to get premium pricing since there's less supply.

No I saw it go completely bananas, I’m just surprised it’s still so bananas especially for the Alltrack. I mean I have one.

40k miles going strong. Maybe a small leak in the sunroof but it’s not much if it is and I rock a roof box. The SEL and driver assistance stuff (especially using OBD11 to turn on lane centering) is so fire for a car I bought for $30k. I paid $1500 to extend the warranty to 10 years/100k miles…we’ll see if it ends up being worth it.

[TCNROMPER]

So, consensus is you'd be fool to consider a used 2017 Alltrack? Saw an ad today for a 6-sp MT flavor, 70k miles, ad mentions new clutch and flywheel, new brake pads and rotors on all 4 corners, and new front hubs in the last 6 months, but nothing about the water pump. Asking $21k

eta: No sunroof https://cars.ksl.com/listing/8811445

I have an 18 golf sportwagen awd 6MT, honestly I would drive this car for the rest of my life if I could. 130k with just the consumables and routine service. It’s great in snow, great gas mileage, and I find it to be comfortable. I paid 23.5k new and wouldn’t hesitate to do it again.

[uglymoney]

Would you prefer that service for free or for $21k? To be fair, there are a lot of people NOT complaining about this.

Yep. I'm used to Toyota and Subaru seats. The seats in my S are a huge step up.

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[The Tortoise]

Agreed the base seats aren't the best. I tried to convince the wife to swap them out for the GTI plaid seats but she wasn't having it.

[tuacati]

Anyone flush & bleed their Alltrack brakes at home? A friend mentioned that it takes a special dot 4 grade & said something about the ABS system potentially impacted if you do it wrong.

I had it done once at a shop but normally I like to do routine maintenance or repairs myself.

I bleed and flush my brake fluid the same as any other car. I think any dot 4 should be fine. I prefer motul.

[Dark Energy]

Update: 459 days after submitting my claim form, and 595 days after VW agreed to a settlement, I received a reimbursement check for the full amount. YMMV

[alpinevibes]

Update: 459 days after submitting my claim form, and 595 days after VW agreed to a settlement, I received a reimbursement check for the full amount. YMMV

Amazing. Hope survives.

[uglymoney]

I thought this was pretty good. I was going east and got Starbucks and fuel at the Safeway in Evergreen off of 285 so definitely a boost from rolling downhill and downwind. Had crossbars on the roof which didnt help. Had to stop at York, rolled home on that tank, so just one fill to Moose on the smallish tank.

Cruise set at 80 mph whenever possible, which was mostly.

Yeah, my screen was filthy after a week of camping/rafting/fishing/sleeping in my car some nights. A dirty wagon is a working wagon.

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[alpinevibes]

Bump.

Just went in for 60k service; $900 for brake fluid, haldex flush and everything else. Only took 2hrs and seems probably like a bit of a rip off but oh well. How far is everyone going on their original serpentine belt? They suggested replacing because of passing 60k, but said it looks fine, so I'm planning to wait another 10k.

Still no check and no word from the settlement...

[TCNROMPER]

Bump.

Just went in for 60k service; $900 for brake fluid, haldex flush and everything else. Only took 2hrs and seems probably like a bit of a rip off but oh well. How far is everyone going on their original serpentine belt? They suggested replacing because of passing 60k, but said it looks fine, so I'm planning to wait another 10k.

Still no check and no word from the settlement...

2018 with 130k…still haven’t replace a belt of any kind. I’ve done brakes 1x, Haldex flush 3x, plugs 2x, oil every 10k, and that’s it…

[spotted dogs]

Hit 200km on mine….lots of original parts- getting a few electrical gremlins now though-
heater vent actuator, adaptive headlight warning on cold morning…


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[tuacati]

Holy fuckin shit! I received my water pump settlement check today. The full amount.
What an ordeal, I had given up.

[radam]

Fkna! Glad someone else got theirs too!

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[whyturn]

Coming up on 24k on the 2019 In for 4th year service and no issues Want to do the IS20 turbo Comfortable ride


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[frorider]

Only 45k miles on my 2017 S, no complaints. Pads have 6O% left. Import auto specialist did brake fluid / Haldex for $300.

Until a couple of years ago my monthly commute was a 10 hr drive, which I did straight thru other than gas stop. Seats were fine.

[uglymoney]

My 18 with 85k car lost boost and threw the infamous EPC code on the way to Colorado. Was doing 80 up a hill and had to kill the cruise for traffic. Went back into the throttle and boost was gone. OBDII confirmed showed 299 which is low boost.

Drove to the next exit and got fuel. Restarted and ran perfectly the next 1200 miles till home. Cleared the code when it happened and never got anymore. Back to Iowa with temps hovering around zero no issues, ran stellar.

Wastegate going and new turbo time I guess. It was 17 below zero so could have some time left. Cold tends to bring out the gremlins early.

[radam]

Fyi if you happen to have a PZEV version, there's an extra long warranty on almost anything related to emissions, including the turbo. Got my 2015's turbo replaced for free even though it was outside the powertrain warranty (and also I bought used, not even CPO).

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[singlesline]

Eh, if it only happened that one time (especially if you were going to a hill at altitude in the cold), I wouldn’t read too much into it. Sounds more like sensors caught some funny readings and threw it into limp mode just in case.

Happened to my GTI (very similar engine) 4 years ago, went away when I restarted, and has never happened again.