Tof Henry :-(

[bodywhomper]

Reading that article from Powder that ghosthop posted upthread a few posts, it seems like he was pretty estranged from everyone in his family (including wife), and only saw his kid once or twice a week. that article is 5 years old now, so hopefully things had changed for the better.

thanks. i hadn't seen the link.

[Pinner]

Others, like Subtle, are much closer to the scene than I and have the personal connection. That said, Chamonix as a community really has a different mindset. It litterly is the history of the town. Whether Tof was doing it for the clicks, ego or something else is not for me to say.

If he was honest with himself, his friends and his family about the inherent danger and that his life was what he was willing to pay, that is all I can ask. I think about this a lot. Many of us tend towards risky activities which entail a high price. There is no line you cross at which point in becomes too much. It is a continuum and a choice.

The Western World tends to forward this idea of a long happy life. I don't think everyone is cut out for it. To me, a fulfilling life is the objective. This is different things to different people. I try and respect this.

And yet again, FG drops the wisdom. #respect

[Pinner]

My brother was an alcoholic with a very destructive streak.

Now I have one of my all time best friends from the halcyon daze of massive college lsd trips, killing himself with alcohol.

This makes me sad. I'm sorry you've had to bear such a burden, B.

[yeahman]

I'm not sure I agree about the distinction between Tof and Hilaree. Granted, I don't have a deep knowledge of either of them, but my general sense is that both of them were pretty eyes-wide-open about the risks they were taking. RIP

And the fatality rate on 8,000m Himalayan peaks is like 10x that of any other range, or so I've read. It's pretty much impossible to be calculating with those odds. Honestly I was surprised she took that risk, given her reputation for being relatively careful.

[telefreewasatch]

It depends on the age of the child and whether those conversations carry through with the spouse and other remaining family members I think. Everyone has their own interpretation of how to live their life on their terms. Good for you for living life your way, but it’s not a cookie cutter template that everyone needs to abide by.

My kids know that I feel lucky just to be a zygote that made it and we’ve had conversations about risk in the mountains since they were young. Life is finite, there’s no changing that.

I try and think before I speaks.
What you say makes me think.
I guess what bothers me is the Tof is from our tribe.
And a lot of skiers, specially young ones, idolize people like him.
I expect more from him than from some drug addict.
And what I think at the end of this day is that Tof shouldn't have had children.
In my humble opinion.

[wickstad]

It’s like we’ve never had this conversation before


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The little ladies all start coming out.

[raisingarizona13]

Freedom first and different strokes for different folks yada yada.

Are we surprised any longer that athletes like Tof pass away before they hit 40? Like really?

[garyfromterrace]

Ostensibly true, but when you understand the realities of the high altitude environments in which she pursued her main objectives, was she actually engaging is less risky/reckless behaviour? I'm not so sure. The additional objective hazards on those 8000+M peaks are so pronounced, with altitude and weather systems alone removing your safety margins so significantly, that going after such ski descents on those peaks is so inherently dangerous that I sadly was no more surprised at her demise than Tof's. RIP to both - I have huge admiration for both even though their pursuits raise difficult questions about risk.

I figured someone would put down my thoughts more eloquently than i could. Thanks spooky.

Re Tof, it's a damn shame alright and condolences to friends and fam. But it was hardly a surprise. Just as it's not a surprise when base jumpers who push the envelope on proximity flights buy it. Super tragic, but no surprise.

[Buzzworthy]

Unfortunately with the socials, it’s far too easy to figure out what athletes are not making it to retirement.

[CHAIR_97]

I read lots of posts here in different threads about ppl feeling bad for addicts. It's a disease. Adrenaline junkies are addicts too, unable to escape the jaws of addiction.
The feeling from skiing an exposed line is an euphoria unmatched in the substance world and I'd be willing to wager as hard to kick as junk. Think about your best ski day , the high you felt even the next day until it slowly dwindles away and you feel lower than low until you get your next fix.
Tof, like mcConkey was an addict. He had a disease that he couldn't kick. His son will follow in his footsteps much like Kye did Trevor.



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[3PinGrin]

I try and think before I speaks.
What you say makes me think.
I guess what bothers me is the Tof is from our tribe.
And a lot of skiers, specially young ones, idolize people like him.
I expect more from him than from some drug addict.
And what I think at the end of this day is that Tof shouldn't have had children.
In my humble opinion.

I get it, and can certainly understand your opinion.

[jackattack]

As gnarly as they come. Skiing insane closeout chamonix lines in fresh snow conditions at mach chicken was his versions of "good style".

Truly impressive skiing but I got to the scene where he was mourning the loss of his mother and that was it for me.

Condolences to the ones who loved him.

[Angle Parking]

This place is devolving into the internet version of a cranky old man who thinks he has it all firgured out, but really he is just casting stones to ease the pain he feels at having become a bitter, drunken, geratric fatso.

[Buzzworthy]

This place is devolving into the internet version of a cranky old man who thinks he has it all firgured out, but really he is just casting stones to ease the pain he feels at having become a bitter, drunken, geratric fatso.

Cool story bro. So why are you here with us old fucks who made good decisions so we could watch our kids grow up?

[Buster Highmen]

This place is devolving into the internet version of a cranky old man who thinks he has it all firgured out, but really he is just casting stones to ease the pain he feels at having become a bitter, drunken, geratric fatso.

Guilty as charged.

[wasatchback]

I read lots of posts here in different threads about ppl feeling bad for addicts. It's a disease. Adrenaline junkies are addicts too, unable to escape the jaws of addiction.
The feeling from skiing an exposed line is an euphoria unmatched in the substance world and I'd be willing to wager as hard to kick as junk. Think about your best ski day , the high you felt even the next day until it slowly dwindles away and you feel lower than low until you get your next fix.
Tof, like mcConkey was an addict. He had a disease that he couldn't kick. His son will follow in his footsteps much like Kye did Trevor.



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This.

Known too many folks who have died doing what they loved and seemingly pushing the limits of what I thought was possible on a regular basis. I was so perplexed by this for so long because I really couldn’t relate. The consequential shit was not my jam. As I’ve gotten older and learned more about addiction and mental health it has made more sense to me. Risk is their drug. It’s what gets a lot of people out of bed, it’s what makes them happy and what they need to feel alive. Seems like It’s just as hard to give that up as any substance that stimulates those pathways.

[Angle Parking]

Guilty as charged.

Well, you may or may not be those things but you made me snort audibly with laughter so you've got a sense of humour at the very least.

[Foggy_Goggles]

As I’ve gotten older and learned more about addiction and mental health it has made more sense to me. Risk is their drug. It’s what gets a lot of people out of bed, it’s what makes them happy and what they need to feel alive.

We've all got our bullshit. It all comes with a cost, some much greater than others. The only perspective any of us will truly have is our own. Everyone's reality deserves to be respected.

[yeahman]

Reading that article from Powder that ghosthop posted upthread a few posts, it seems like he was pretty estranged from everyone in his family (including wife), and only saw his kid once or twice a week. that article is 5 years old now, so hopefully things had changed for the better.


has their been any word on what caused the accident? rockfall, avalanche, slip and fall?

I'm glad I went back and read that. It really does put the man in perspective.

[twat]

an update on the accident

https://www.downdays.eu/articles/tof...agudo-volcano/

fall in a no fall zone.
their photographer skied down and provided first aid

[McDee]

It's all about moderation.
I stumbled over Seth's "The ordinary skier" again just a couple of days before news of Tof. Seems pertinent to the issue, esp. if you see JP Auclair and Andreas Fransson in there and what they are talking about..

Just today the youtube algorithm put Andreas Fransson's "Tempting Fear" up.

What strikes me is that all the philosophising and self reflection on self fulfillment, existentialism and risk management is just so much bullshit and empty words when the consequences catch up. This is not specific to Fransson, but to all these "deep" movies, quotes, and social media posts.

Peds would have an insight into this, didn't he quit Chamonix after having had a close call and/or having a kid?

[Foggy_Goggles]

What strikes me is that all the philosophising and self reflection on self fulfillment, existentialism and risk management is just so much bullshit and empty words when the consequences catch up

I don't know if I'd call it straight bullshit but I know what you are saying. We all need to hold ourselves accountable. But the struggle is real.

[subtle plague]

It's all about moderation.

Peds would have an insight into this, didn't he quit Chamonix after having had a close call and/or having a kid?

He had a pretty bad climbing accident as far as I remember.


And a kid before that. I'd really like to know what was the trigger to go.

[Core Shot]

Since the stoke is derailed and we’re back on risk.

Fuck it. He loved risk. He died. He’s dead.

The risk that bothers me is when someone involves SAR in their stupid decisions. SAR is safe. And calculated. But if you do something stupid they will try their best to safely help.

Wasn’t the case this time. He and his partner made a mistake. The only rescue was body recovery. RIP.

Can someone post more stoke? That Cham wow video was awesome.

[subtle plague]

The risk that bothers me is when someone involves SAR in their stupid decisions. SAR is safe. And calculated. But if you do something stupid they will try their best to safely help.

Wasn’t the case this time. He and his partner made a mistake. The only rescue was body recovery. RIP.

Can someone post more stoke? That Cham wow video was awesome.

You are even dumber than I expected. And that says a lot.

Edit: but I should have known that mountain rescue or the people who are in it is a another topic you know nothing about. Why did I Click on view this Posting.......