Dead. Gone. Fuck!
Dead. Gone. Fuck!
Such a "tragic and unexpected accident." He was always on the safe side........
No, not really.
He kept pushing it and he paid the price.
I really felt uncomfortable when I saw him skiing with his son in eberg last year having kids myself. Poor kid.
So when is it Tschirmers time? Any bets?
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Shiiit, RIP to a legend! I spotted him and a heavy crew grabbing beers in Cham one afternoon and I was (unabashedly) slightly starstruck.
10 years since Fransson and JP died in Chile too.
Subtle - I'll counter your take with my observation that I feel like Tof had dialed things back in the last few years. His posts, attitude and the skiing he was showing off wasn't as agro as his Born in Cham and previous stuff.
Same for Niko - he's still pushing the envelope but it's been clear the last couple years that he's not quite as cowboy as he used to be.
My only answer to this defence of the cham scene is the epitome of stupidity when he posted that Video of the courmayeur south face where two people died in the avalanche on the line he skied 5minutes earlier. He took it down afterwards when other people had to point out how dumb that was.
I have no idea whether he had matured lately but seeing his insta with his son skiing(conditions were a bit funky that day) and seeing him stand mid slope with his kid live last year does not make me think he had.
Edit: and this was 5months ago?
Whoops I ski consequential lines like the mallory, trigger an avie, post it and write that conditions were sketchy? Does that sound like matured?
Calculated risk taker my ass dear powder mag.
https://www.powder.com/trending-news...ling-avalanche
And Tschirmer: really? he fucking posted a Video last year where he didn't want to rappel and annoyed everyone in his Party in Engelberg violating every rule of group travel in the mountains. Fuck that.
Oh yeah he "felt sorry afterwards". Great insight.
Last edited by subtle plague; 10-12-2023 at 07:38 AM.
It's a war of the mind and we're armed to the teeth.
Very sad but I can't say I'm surprised after following his instagram the past several years. You can only roll the dice for so long.
Sad but not surprising. The list is long. RIP.
Wow. Sorry to hear this. His Instagram was interesting, obviously he pushed the limits. RIP
Sad and expected. Reportedly fell off a cliff; I wonder if he had skis on. Condolences to family and friends. I hope his drive was for himself and not the media.
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Look look look... i'm not saying either of them are "mature" or making great, safe decisions. They're both still on the sharpest end of their niche pursuit and making buzz by pushing the limit in a way none of us would ever chose to do.
But I do think both have moved in a slightly, marginally more conservative direction in the last 3+ years. Clearly they're still making questionable decisions and clearly both of their personal brands are based on pushing the envelope and living to tell. That is what it is. I'm not trying to defend or validate them or their decisions; just posting my observations as another social media viewer.
Many of these pursuits we enjoy exhibit many of the characteristics of addiction. I think it is a powerful lense through which to view these type of events. Its presumptuous for any of us to opine on where his mind was at.
Damn RIP. Impressive skier, condolences to his family and friends. I hope they are able to find peace.
It makes me sad to read some peoples comments in this thread, he’s not even in the ground and y’all already lined up to kick dirt on his grave.
Yeah, although I'm not sure there's much of a difference anymore. If you want to do it full time, then the media and sponsors are required to earn a living at it, even though a lot of athletes don't like that part of it. Some do, maybe he did, doesn't really matter in the end though. It's an interesting issue that is examined in the new Netflix film Race to the Summit, about Ueli Steck and Dani Arnold setting speed records in the Alps. Watched it last night after Cody Townsend posted about it. Highly recommended whether you agree with what these guys were doing or not. They are amazing mountain athletes, as was Tof.
I've been criticising him for years and I think it Serves no purpose to stop criticizing this cham attitude because someone died of it, yet again.
It just pisses me off That everybody pretends it is a tragedy. It is a choice. His choice and his alone. I Respect That. But those stupid heart smilies on his instagram piss me off. People in this thread are much more matter of fact being sad but not surprised. Which is what I like tgr for.
It just makes me sad for his son. I don't like that people have been worshipping him for his Chamonix core bro Image and he had to make a living off it.
It's a war of the mind and we're armed to the teeth.
That's a huge bummer - loved watching him ski. He walked / skied a very fine line better than most. Not terribly surprising that it eventually went the way that it did, but what he did was still impressive.
I wonder if being in South America on less familiar terrain and on a less familiar snowpack was a contributing factor.
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The time and money investment to travel across the world to a remote volcano for a singular objective also causes people to adjust their acceptable risk level, and push in conditions that might normally make them pause. That said, we have no idea what happened here. It could have been as simple as a free climbing where the protection failed and bounced him and his partner off a cliff below them. Could have been a freak ice fall got them. Maybe after all the proverbial bullets he dodged, the universe had enough and sent something freak his way while he was just skiing along.
RIP. He sure lived a full life while he was alive.
Google Maps photo of the Volcano from last October
https://maps.app.goo.gl/WYQ9z3XHbd3fJocc7
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I'm not trying to criticize Tof, and yeah, it doesn't really matter for him, but in the larger context, there are an awful lot of people who are driven by being on the stage in front of a bunch of strangers. It's a fact, but I can still have my hopes for some individuals in the dankness of my ignorance.
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Never heard of him. Sounds like he died doing what he loved.
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