It's hotter than a whore house on nickel night

[liv2ski]

1pm and 78 in the house. Hoping the ac doesn't come on.

[skaredshtles]

1pm and 78 in the house. Hoping the ac doesn't come on.

2pm and 77F in the house. My A/C ain't coming on today. Hoping for some cloud cover...

[MagnificentUnicorn]

Maybe next year the SAR team decides they don't want to go out in high avy conditions, so they close the bc on all moderate and above days. Does that sound reasonable to you?

You can't protect the public from themselves all the time. Closing land in the name of protecting those who might "have" to rescue someone is lazy thinking at best.

He lives in Vermont, he doesn’t understand what you’re talking about


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[Buzzworthy]

Don’t think my AC has gone off in several days.

[AK47bp]

People who take pride in not using their AC during a heat wave.

[skaredshtles]

People who take pride in not using their AC during a heat wave.

I mean, it's hardly a heat wave here - two days is no "wave" in my book.

And now we've got a thunderstorm... perhaps the monsoon is revving up? That would be nice.

[zion zig zag]

They aren't closing these trails because they "might" have to rescue someone, they're closing them because rescues always happen heatwaves because people won't stay away, and some of those turn into recoveries. Same thing happens every heat wave and it's become a huge problem and an unnecessary drain on resources. This is from 2021 but same thing happening this year - https://www.10news.com/news/local-ne...r-rescues-soar

These are hikes where you drop down into a steep canyon to a waterfall, then have to climb back out under full sun when it is much hotter. Even people who come prepared can get into trouble.


This is Three Sisters Falls, one of the trails that is closed until the heat wave is over. Second pic is the masses descending on the falls just as it's getting hot out. It's like this every weekend of the year when the trail is open.

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Still a hard no from me. If a land manager decides to close land because the actions of one may endanger public safety or the resource itself, then....maybe. Otherwise, educate about the dangers and the possibility of a delayed rescue and let them go at it. I find it strange that I have to make this counterpoint on a message board for outdoor sports.

[AK47bp]

Still a hard no from me. If a land manager decides to close land because the actions of one may endanger public safety or the resource itself, then....maybe. Otherwise, educate about the dangers and the possibility of a delayed rescue and let them go at it. I find it strange that I have to make this counterpoint on a message board for outdoor sports.

That ain’t freedom man.

Do you really want life bubble wrapped to protect the lowest common denominator?


Let Darwin have a swing.


Edit ^ I’m agreeing with you.

[Buzzworthy]

Still a hard no from me. If a land manager decides to close land because the actions of one may endanger public safety or the resource itself, then....maybe. Otherwise, educate about the dangers and the possibility of a delayed rescue and let them go at it. I find it strange that I have to make this counterpoint on a message board for outdoor sports.

Strange indeed.

[bagtagley]

The internet says El Niño is gonna make this a hot one, alarmingly so in some places. I’m gonna regret saying this, but it’s been relatively mild here so far. I mean it’s hot and humid, but could be worse. Even so, A/C has been going steady since May. 72 during the day, and 70 at night thanks to a secret thermostat schedule that kicks in after everyone is in bed.

[AK47bp]

The internet says El Niño is gonna make this a hot one, alarmingly so in some places. I’m gonna regret saying this, but it’s been relatively mild here so far. I mean it’s hot and humid, but could be worse. Even so, A/C has been going steady since May. 72 during the day, and 70 at night thanks to a secret thermostat schedule that kicks in after everyone is in bed.

Wifey goes to bed in pajama pants and a shirt at 10 with a nice toasty 75 degrees and she uses 3 blankets (one of them a heavy comforter). At 11 programmed thermostat goes to 73, midnight to 72, 1am to 69 degrees. Then I go to bed and sleep under the sheet in nothing but my panties.

6am back to 75 and she never knows…..

[zion zig zag]

100 year old house with a sub-grade basement. With the thermostat set at 75 the upstairs is 78ish, main level is 75 and basement is 68. We sleep on a cheap memory foam mattress on the concrete floor of the basement this time of year.


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[bagtagley]

My people! Pretty disappointed in myself for not setting the nighttime temp to 69, though. Gonna go remedy that.

[evdog]

I find it strange that I have to make this counterpoint on a message board for outdoor sports.

I was explaining why the agencies closed the trails. Doesn't mean I agree with it.

[I Skied Bandini Mountain]

Still a hard no from me. If a land manager decides to close land because the actions of one may endanger public safety or the resource itself, then....maybe. Otherwise, educate about the dangers and the possibility of a delayed rescue and let them go at it. I find it strange that I have to make this counterpoint on a message board for outdoor sports.

When it comes to the forest circus, it's dept. of agriculture, and they're not exactly in the recreation business.

[BCMtnHound]

Still a hard no from me. If a land manager decides to close land because the actions of one may endanger public safety or the resource itself, then....maybe. Otherwise, educate about the dangers and the possibility of a delayed rescue and let them go at it. I find it strange that I have to make this counterpoint on a message board for outdoor sports.

One aspect of the recreation in the summer vs our backcountry fun in avy terrain is that we are a bit better at self regulation. It started with ski touring and now with sledders. Those that know and are equipped to deal with the hazard (and the consequences) have come leaps and bounds over the last 30yrs. The summer general public crowd has no such tight circle of enthusiasts to educate and group monitor the situation. Which is a big deal for SAR.
Our winter operation are now mostly broken bones and lost (downed machine) sledders; way fewer fatalities than even a decade ago (granted it does swing year over year). Summer is filled with unprepared folk not knowing where they are, wholly unprepared (flip flops and no gear heading for a day hike into the alpine, thunderheads building), etc.

Not saying closing the woods here - this is Canada and there is just too much land to effectively close except in the worst situations (I.e wildfire), but the recreating public over each season and rec activity are entirely different populations, and I can see how popular trails in the US could be closed for any number of public safety situations.

[zion zig zag]

I was explaining why the agencies closed the trails. Doesn't mean I agree with it.

Copy, sorry for jumping to that conclusion.

[lowsparkco]

A million dolllar home pays 4 grand a year where I live. On what planet is $1300 a month a reasonable bill for property taxes on a single family residence?

What do you get for that?

$10,000 is 1% of the value on a $1m house. That goes to fire fighters, police, schools, roads, trash, public transportation and almost everything else done by the local government. 1% is the national average.[/QUOTE]

$10k is $833 a month, not $1300.

National average is 1.1% of assessed value which is usually lower than actual value, most places significantly lower.

Sure, a 2/1 is worth $1.6 million of assessed value in some places, but it’s pretty rarified air.

I’m grateful my property taxes are no where near that expensive and I still get fire fighters, police, schools, the whole shebang!

[Albert Gore]

I told you people.

[Buster Highmen]

68F indoors at 10:20 am.
It was 65F indoors at 7 am after leaving upper windows open and lower windows cracked all night. 55F outside at 6:40 am.

Heat pump ac generally kicks on at 2:00pm or so. With a high today of 86F, it will probably cycle every 20 minutes until 9:00 pm when the outside temp drops below 70F.

The heat pump is a good investment. Never thought we'd need it in the PNW.

[oftpiste]

Do you really want life bubble wrapped to protect the lowest common denominator?

It pretty much already is.

[KQ]

It's been a mild summer this year in EWA. Finally hitting the triple digits which is normal for August.

One more day of this then it's back down to the 80s.

Not at all sad that the heat dome passed us by this year. [emoji41]

[Dromond]

68F indoors at 10:20 am.
It was 65F indoors at 7 am after leaving upper windows open and lower windows cracked all night. 55F outside at 6:40 am.

Heat pump ac generally kicks on at 2:00pm or so. With a high today of 86F, it will probably cycle every 20 minutes until 9:00 pm when the outside temp drops below 70F.

The heat pump is a good investment. Never thought we'd need it in the PNW.

We have been using ours as well.... 90 outside and 73 inside. Only need it for a few summer weeks a year at most but it is great to have.

[TBS]

100F in Central OR the last two days with AQI 500 yesterday and about 250 today. Have been outside a total of 15 minutes the last two days

Supposed to cool down in next couple of days, but don’t know about the smoke. Lightning in forecast for Thursday and Friday. Fuck me

[frorider]

100F in Central OR the last two days with AQI 500 yesterday and about 250 today. Have been outside a total of 15 minutes the last two days

Supposed to cool down in next couple of days, but don’t know about the smoke. Lightning in forecast for Thursday and Friday. Fuck me

Ugh. I assume much of the smoke is from that Bedrock fire? The lookout fire is smaller.

We’re driving up to Bend in a little over a week to see family.