Do uncrowded powder resorts still exist in North America?

[AK47bp]

What about the great lakes surfers? Waves are best/most reliable in the winter...

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[Core Shot]

Solid no. Although the yooper t shirt pic is awesome.

So you get frozen face surfing and less than 1,000 vert of ice skiing in one day?
Count me out.

[The AD]

Do you need to bring along a set of pliers to extract your nuts after the session?

[NBABUCKS1]

Those bros seem to be having a blast


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and only a few miles from marquette mountain and in a college town. Living. But the powder is not as deep there.

[AK47bp]

Any shmuck can swim in ice water and shred 300ft of vert if they want.



We’re talking no wetsuit needed ocean swimming and lift served skiing in the same day. Don’t think it’s possible anywhere. Sure you can live somewhere with a warm ocean in the summer and skiing in the winter, but they all seem to be mutually exclusive.

Even at Mt Etna, the ocean temp off Catalina in the winter is in the 60’s so can’t enjoyably swim without a wetsuit.


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[skaredshtles]

Any shmuck can swim in ice water and shred 300ft of vert if they want.



We’re talking no wetsuit needed ocean swimming and lift served skiing in the same day. Don’t think it’s possible anywhere.

Maybe Cyprus? Current water temps seem to be around 68F, which while not balmy, might be swim-able without a wetsuit as long as the sun's out and the air is warm?

[Core Shot]

Unless. Maybe we’re talking Wim Hoff paradise?

[m2711c]

Even at Mt Etna, the ocean temp off Catalina in the winter is in the 60’s so can’t enjoyably swim without a wetsuit.


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I’m not sure what the water temperature near an island off the coast of California has to do with the water temperature off the coast of a volcano in the Mediterranean.

i do seem to remember that the winters in sicily seemed much warmer than the summers in upstate ny. water was warmer than memorial day swimming in the adirondacks by a long shot.

and, ya’ll can ski on ‘er year around…







fact.

[m2711c]

plus ya gets cool insta fame with yer slope-side selfies…

[toast2266]

Any shmuck can swim in ice water and shred 300ft of vert if they want.



We’re talking no wetsuit needed ocean swimming and lift served skiing in the same day. Don’t think it’s possible anywhere. Sure you can live somewhere with a warm ocean in the summer and skiing in the winter, but they all seem to be mutually exclusive.

Even at Mt Etna, the ocean temp off Catalina in the winter is in the 60’s so can’t enjoyably swim without a wetsuit.


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Plenty of lifts in Yurp spin year round, and quite a few places have maintained, groomed runs all summer. Racers are training year round over there. Water in the Med might be chilly in May, but it'll be entirely pleasant by July.

[The AD]

Maybe Cyprus? Current water temps seem to be around 68F, which while not balmy, might be swim-able without a wetsuit as long as the sun's out and the air is warm?

Looks like there's only one "resort" in Cyprus with lift served skiing, and it's like 700 feet of vert.

[BCMtnHound]

Maybe Cyprus? Current water temps seem to be around 68F, which while not balmy, might be swim-able without a wetsuit as long as the sun's out and the air is warm?

Looks like there's only one "resort" in Cyprus with lift served skiing, and it's like 700 feet of vert.

I was in Cyprus visiting family one winter. Went swimming off of Aphrodite’s rock and thought it was great temp. Locals thought I was nuts. Also toured the circumference trail on Mt Olympus and saw the ski hill. Not enough snow to operate that January. And yes, uninspiring terrain from a skiing perspective.

[caderader]

So drifting the thread another direction, if you were going to buy a lot to build a yurt/or rough tiny home and ski uncrowded slopes with good terrain + lots of backcountry where would you be aiming for?

The San Juans (Silverton or Ophir) look pretty good to me but I'm more than a little sketched out by that snowpack.

Not sure that kind of backwoods lifestyle flies in Ogden/Eden or that the lots are remotely affordable.

Driggs, Id area have potential?
Maybe around Sandpoint with possibilities to tour further afield into BC easily?

Others?

[byates1]

^any mtn range in Montana. Also Rubys NV. Tushars. There are tons of places that are uncrowded gems. Not world class but let's be real, most ppl are fine w mid level terrain.


I'm doing a dry cabin at some point. looked at land today outside of Taos.

[altasnob]

Rather than focus on a particular mountain range, or even state, I think the key is to find that perfect piece of property. My dream is to own a private property parcel surrounded by National Forest, where you could backcountry ski from your front door. Vehicle access would be nice, but even without you could heli or snowmobile in the materials to build your off the grid yurt or cabin. These types of parcels exists in every state in the West. The hard part is finding an owner willing to sell.

[Dromond]

I do agree that if you are dedicated to uncrowded powder skiing, a remote backcountry location is the the answer. There are many snowy mountain ranges in N. America that are just inconvenient to access. Unlike surfing’s limited waves, I think there are far more unskied slopes that people simply can’t get to easily or frequently.

Even today you can ski a lot of pow if you are in snowy locations for a long time, or can move around, but you will have to share to some degree.

[NBABUCKS1]

fyi on remote land people. Rates are shit now but I got a farm loan on my remote property I bought in wyoming in 2020. 15 years loan, no stipulation to build at any time, to farm, just a normal loan and I got 3.5% at the time. I used rural 1st but there are others.

[Djongo Unchained]

Driggs Idaho is not necessarily inexpensive anymore. But in the area/region the options increase greatly. Lotsa good options from Tetonia north towards west jelly.
Boondocks, big snow, hilly and Momos'.

[kootenayskier]

I do agree that if you are dedicated to uncrowded powder skiing, a remote backcountry location is the the answer. There are many snowy mountain ranges in N. America that are just inconvenient to access. Unlike surfing’s limited waves, I think there are far more unskied slopes that people simply can’t get to easily or frequently.

Even today you can ski a lot of pow if you are in snowy locations for a long time, or can move around, but you will have to share to some degree.

Lots of empty snowy mountains out there, and some reasonably affordable options if you’re prepared to go full backcountry hermit. Not so easy to find enough of a like minded community to live a full life, and appealing enough to share with a partner. The tradition is for a group of friends to move to somewhere with potential, and commit to creating the reality they want. That’s how you get in on the ground floor. Otherwise you’re just buying into and are crowding up what other people created.

[Conundrum]

Lots of empty snowy mountains out there, and some reasonably affordable options if you’re prepared to go full backcountry hermit. Not so easy to find enough of a like minded community to live a full life, and appealing enough to share with a partner. The tradition is for a group of friends to move to somewhere with potential, and commit to creating the reality they want. That’s how you get in on the ground floor. Otherwise you’re just buying into and are crowding up what other people created.

Sounds hard. Any easier options? Asking for the OP.

[MarsB]

Sounds hard. Any easier options? Asking for the OP.

Sure, but this has already been covered.
https://yellowstoneclub.com/
https://wasatchpeaksranch.com/

Or get in on the ground floor with FastFred's upcoming trailer park empire.

[goldenboy]

Sure, but this has already been covered.
https://yellowstoneclub.com/
https://wasatchpeaksranch.com/

Or get in on the ground floor with FastFred's upcoming trailer park empire.

Cimarron Mountain Club if I'm going that direction... https://cimarroncolorado.com/

[Buster Highmen]

Pine Creek, Snowy, White Pine.

It's not that hard, there's choices and if affordability beats out big vertical, its easy.

[caderader]

^any mtn range in Montana. Also Rubys NV. Tushars. There are tons of places that are uncrowded gems. Not world class but let's be real, most ppl are fine w mid level terrain.


I'm doing a dry cabin at some point. looked at land today outside of Taos.

Yeah, there's a part of me that's interested in bigger terrain but I think it's a part that lives more in fantasy land than reality. The older I get (and with two little ones now) the more my risk profile shifts. In fact, the more I think about it the more I prefer somewhere that's got easy access to meadow skipping and low angle glades over consequential terrain.

Lots of empty snowy mountains out there, and some reasonably affordable options if you’re prepared to go full backcountry hermit. Not so easy to find enough of a like minded community to live a full life, and appealing enough to share with a partner. The tradition is for a group of friends to move to somewhere with potential, and commit to creating the reality they want. That’s how you get in on the ground floor. Otherwise you’re just buying into and are crowding up what other people created.

That makes sense, I think my scenario is to have somewhere that's low maintenance and off the grid but to use if for several weeks a year over the course of summer and winter, not a full time living situation, that way my partner doesn't leave me... Think I'd like to find somewhere that's within striking distance (1-1.5 hours) of lift served so I can lap lifts if the danger is high.

Pine Creek, Snowy, White Pine.

It's not that hard, there's choices and if affordability beats out big vertical, its easy.

Affordability beats out big vert for me, as does access to good trails/water for summer activities (biking, hiking, backpacking, paddling).

Seems like Northern Idaho has some good possibilities with access to a few good lift served options, low population, and within striking distance to some cool ski areas and bigger terrain in BC.

[phatty]

somewhere that's low maintenance and off the grid.

These two are not compatible, especially if you are only using it infrequently.