Do uncrowded powder resorts still exist in North America?

[NBABUCKS1]

Guess how much rent will be in Victor by then, if Yellowstone don’t blow?

Then of course, dude is retiring, so he’s a goner by 2045.

Befriend him now and see if you can get written into the trust.

Any word from illadvisedstrategy after he posted more or less the same thing but the poor person version?

[altasnob]

A Canadian university did a climate change impact on ski area study and concluded that in western Canada ski resorts will eventually open 3 weeks later than now and close 3 weeks sooner.

Most local skiers in western Canada don't go skiing in big numbers until after Xmas and after spring break in late March most of the resorts turn into ghost towns and end up closing in early to mid April for lack of skiers, not lack of snow. So maybe they will one day close at the end of March for lack of snow...not a big deal.

Sorry, we have already determined there are no "powder resorts" in Canada as there are no resorts in Canada that average more than 1270 cm of snow a year. And besides, the OP and his family have already moved into rideit's basement.

[altasnob]

We are also avid MTB and whitewater kayakers so proximity to those activities would be nice, but we live in the mecca for both of those so I imagine we'd still spend most of the Summer here.

What a coincidence. My family is also looking to relocate but we want to move to the "mountain bike mecca." Unfortunately, we don't know where this is. Can you fill me in? I have loads of money as I buy up homes with long term renters, kick them out, and convert them to short term rentals. I also already own a fully built Sprinter but I mainly only use it for grocery runs. So where is this mecca you speak of Red7?

[MagnificentUnicorn]

I’m thinking that the op is from West Virginia or North Carolina


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[Toadman]

What a coincidence. My family is also looking to relocate but we want to move to the "mountain bike mecca." Unfortunately, we don't know where this is. Can you fill me in? I have loads of money as I buy up homes with long term renters, kick them out, and convert them to short term rentals. I also already own a fully built Sprinter but I mainly only use it for grocery runs. So where is this mecca you speak of Red7?

Well, according to this article - https://www.mercurynews.com/2022/07/...iking-nirvana/ MTB Nirvana is in Ashland, OR. I think you actually have to go to Saudi Arabia with your MTB to experience Mecca.

[fastfred]

What a coincidence. My family is also looking to relocate but we want to move to the "mountain bike mecca." Unfortunately, we don't know where this is. Can you fill me in? I have loads of money as I buy up homes with long term renters, kick them out, and convert them to short term rentals. I also already own a fully built Sprinter but I mainly only use it for grocery runs. So where is this mecca you speak of Red7?

I can post my address if you need me to
bike trails out the front door
plenty of parking for the sprinter
empty bedrooms I could rent to local workers but don't
gondola a quick skip hop and jump from the house

I kinda am sick of this lifestyle and don't see what all the fuss is about and why do many people are so desperate for it it's just a fucking ski town not sure what all the stoke is for
it bores after a few decades looking at mountains out the window people smiling and being silly as they schlep ski gear past your house headed to the "mountain"
tourist traffic
it's always cold its allways sunshiny
surrounded by all this enjoyment makes me cringe
i need somewhere dark and depressing that has been gutted of all economic growth where people are blobs of fat sitting inside all day posting on the internet while nonstop network news blares in the backround repeating the same shit ove rand over where all hope humility and excitement for life was stripped a few generations ago self medication is the only way out of the horror that has become life

[skaredshtles]

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i need somewhere dark and depressing that has been gutted of all economic growth where people are blobs of fat sitting inside all day posting on the internet while nonstop network news blares in the backround repeating the same shit ove rand over where all hope humility and excitement for life was stripped a few generations ago self medication is the only way out of the horror that has become life

Gary, Indiana, my good man... Gary, Indiana. You're welcome.

[MagnificentUnicorn]

Fred, you should look for a real town(economy not based on real estate and tourism) near an independent ski hill.


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[Talisman]

Sounds like you are describing Butte, like Gary without the lakeside charm but has mountains and a superfund site.

i need somewhere dark and depressing that has been gutted of all economic growth where people are blobs of fat sitting inside all day posting on the internet while nonstop network news blares in the backround repeating the same shit ove rand over where all hope humility and excitement for life was stripped a few generations ago self medication is the only way out of the horror that has become life

[El Chupacabra]

Sounds like you are describing Butte, like Gary without the lakeside charm but has mountains and a superfund site.

Butte, MT has afffordable lakefront property.

[stuckathuntermtn]

This is the way

[Sam Apoc]

I’m thinking that the op is from West Virginia or North Carolina


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Yep my guess was western NC / Asheville vicinity. Pisgah is pretty well hyped as a MTB destination and the Green River Narrows race is (maybe) the most iconic whitewater kayaking race in the country.

That, plus the fact that the desired second home is "out west". Otherwise, Hood River, OR / White Salmon, WA would fit that description too.

[altasnob]

Butte, MT has afffordable lakefront property.

Gorgeous emerald green lake blocks away from charming Victorian fix er uppers. Think of the instagram SUP photos you could get on that lake!

[gtid]

Wamsutter Wyoming. The next big thing. You heard it here first.

I second, Wamsutter, central location right between Rollins and Rock Springs, a constant gentle breeze, perfect for kite flying. Im sure I speak for many people on this forum and suggest you move to Colorado and leave the rest of the West as it is.


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[altasnob]

Fred, you should look for a real town(economy not based on real estate and tourism) near an independent ski hill.

Fred's depression is exactly why I have never attempted to live in a resort town in my life. Cities may suck with traffic, crime, and too many people but they have things like live music and events, cheap ethnic restaurants, and a feeling of actually living on planet earth rather than some fake la la land that is constantly trying to run away from their problems. You'll have friends that don't give a shit about skiing and mountain biking and have other interests, and come from parts of the world you know nothing about. I have friends who moved to Leavenworth, WA. After a few years there they hate it because it is constantly overrun with tourist. Now, they own a place in Mazama, WA. In a few years, they will hate that as well. It's like a cancer constantly trying to spread to the "next great place" to exploit.

[toast2266]

Well, according to this article - https://www.mercurynews.com/2022/07/...iking-nirvana/ MTB Nirvana is in Ashland, OR. I think you actually have to go to Saudi Arabia with your MTB to experience Mecca.

Amusingly enough, I just saw a thing about the saudis bringing in some mtb notables to build trails and do some influencing. Gotta get those dentist dollars!

[rideit]

Every single place on earth has intractable problems, it's a matter of what you can tolerate. There is no Shangri-La, whether it's weather, poor economy, insane tourism but tons of jobs, you all know this.

[fastfred]

Fred's depression is exactly why I have never attempted to live in a resort town in my life. Cities may suck with traffic, crime, and too many people but they have things like live music and events, cheap ethnic restaurants, and a feeling of actually living on planet earth rather than some fake la la land that is constantly trying to run away from their problems. You'll have friends that don't give a shit about skiing and mountain biking and have other interests, and come from parts of the world you know nothing about. I have friends who moved to Leavenworth, WA. After a few years there they hate it because it is constantly overrun with tourist. Now, they own a place in Mazama, WA. In a few years, they will hate that as well. It's like a cancer constantly trying to spread to the "next great place" to exploit.

Dude smoke some weed my life is a comedy of errors I couldn't function anywhere else in the world

[altasnob]

Dude smoke some weed my life is a comedy of errors I couldn't function anywhere else in the world

Sorry fred. The reason you are so depressed and jaded is that you have lived in a resort town for longer than anyone here. Everyone else in these resort towns will follow in your footsteps with time.

[snapt]

Sorry fred. The reason you are so depressed and jaded is that you have lived in a resort town for longer than anyone here. Everyone else in these resort towns will follow in your footsteps with time.

Truth.

[Bobcat Sig]

Fred's depression is exactly why I have never attempted to live in a resort town in my life. Cities may suck with traffic, crime, and too many people but they have things like live music and events, cheap ethnic restaurants, and a feeling of actually living on planet earth rather than some fake la la land that is constantly trying to run away from their problems. You'll have friends that don't give a shit about skiing and mountain biking and have other interests, and come from parts of the world you know nothing about. I have friends who moved to Leavenworth, WA. After a few years there they hate it because it is constantly overrun with tourist. Now, they own a place in Mazama, WA. In a few years, they will hate that as well. It's like a cancer constantly trying to spread to the "next great place" to exploit.

Every single place on earth has intractable problems, it's a matter of what you can tolerate. There is no Shangri-La, whether it's weather, poor economy, insane tourism but tons of jobs, you all know this.

I think rideit gets this. I've lived in both. And in the end, you must pick your compromise. What are you willing to give up based on where you live?

When I had the great pleasure of living and working an adult job in Bozeman; it was most excellent. 15 minutes to Bridger, an hour+ (at the time) to Big Sky. Great mountain biking in the summer. And all the trappings and benefits of a cool mountain town. Mind you, that was seven years ago that I left, but when I was there; I absolutely loved it. Looking back on it, having a diversification of recreation, a solid, planted group of friends, and a career helped immensely. It would be a different story if you were a transient or seasonal worker, trying to eek it out with temp job. I miss it greatly and often think of how I could go back, despite the massive growth the Gallatin Valley is enduring.

Flip that with Portland, which I love and hate. It's great for the reasons that AltaSnob states; terrific restaurants, a comparatively cosmopolitan city experience, much shorter winters, and almost any service or amenity you could want. The downside is absolutely awful winter weather, shitty traffic, an indefensibly worsening homeless and drug abuse problem, much higher crime, and an hour+ in any direction for anything outdoors. Oh, and those outdoor escapes? Overrun with people.

One must pick what's important to them and determine what truly fulfills them. And be honest about it. I talked myself into thinking that a bigger city, nightlife, restaurants, breweries, and all that come with a bigger city would give what I thought I was missing in Bozeman. I was wrong. Think on that long and hard.

[altasnob]

Bozeman isn't exactly a resort town. Shit, it probably has better restaurants than Portland, and higher priced real estate too.

[Bobcat Sig]

Bozeman isn't exactly a resort town. Shit, it probably has better restaurants than Portland, and higher priced real estate too.

Depends on how you define a resort town. As I lived there for nearly twenty years; I'd say it is more of a ski town than a resort town.

As for restaurants... are you high? Bozeman is better now, but nowhere near Portland. At all. Not even a little bit.

[MarsB]

Yep my guess was western NC / Asheville vicinity. Pisgah is pretty well hyped as a MTB destination and the Green River Narrows race is (maybe) the most iconic whitewater kayaking race in the country.

That, plus the fact that the desired second home is "out west". Otherwise, Hood River, OR / White Salmon, WA would fit that description too.

I was thinking DC area. They all come to WV to recreate, but that post doesn't sound like written by a West Virginian. Far too entitled.

What a coincidence. My family is also looking to relocate but we want to move to the "mountain bike mecca." Unfortunately, we don't know where this is. Can you fill me in? I have loads of money as I buy up homes with long term renters, kick them out, and convert them to short term rentals. I also already own a fully built Sprinter but I mainly only use it for grocery runs. So where is this mecca you speak of Red7?

Bentonville, AR

[fastfred]

Sorry fred. The reason you are so depressed and jaded is that you have lived in a resort town for longer than anyone here. Everyone else in these resort towns will follow in your footsteps with time.

Just stop serious stop

Depressed no

Jaded who isn't a Gen xer and not jaded I know who pays my bills

Don't be jealous of my house my van and don't give a fuck lifestyle getting close to 30 years been at it since I was 19 love every minute of it