New Foot Scanner App

[gregL]

Thanks!

It’s good to hear the QF can be punched that much as it checks a lot of boxes otherwise

Did you ever try on the Scarpa F1? It looks to have more width up front from the specs and the toe looks more square and less pointy (like my flinstone feet!)

Yes, I've made an F1 fit my foot in a 26.5, but it took some serious punching for width (not sure it felt any better out of the box, but it was a size smaller) - do you have access to a good bootfitter who has experience with Grilamid? The F1 punches easier than the Quantum Free, but you need to be a bit careful of the thin shell.

[ripvanwinter]

Yes, I've made an F1 fit my foot in a 26.5, but it took some serious punching for width (not sure it felt any better out of the box, but it was a size smaller) - do you have access to a good bootfitter who has experience with Grilamid? The F1 punches easier than the Quantum Free, but you need to be a bit careful of the thin shell.

Yeah, couple fitters with good reps, but need to talk to them about their experience with thinner boots before I commit. This may have to wait until next season until i can spend time Whistler Again.

Or, can you think of anything that may be better out of the box, ie, not cavernous in the heel/ankle with a decent forefoot width in that weight class?

[FalseAnomaly]

Hi Greg,

Thank you for helping so many people here! I am new to both the forum and skiing. I have done a scan on Verifyt, and I know the scan is pretty solid after manually measuring my feet with a ruler. The scan params are below:
Left: length 26.6cm, (last) width 9.7cm, heel width 6.5cm, instep height 6.5cm
Right: length 26.2cm, width 9.5cm, heel width 6.5cm, instep height 6.4cm

It would be grateful if you could recommend a few boots so I have a starting point when I get fitted later in the season. Thank you for your time!

[gregL]

Hi Greg,

Thank you for helping so many people here! I am new to both the forum and skiing. I have done a scan on Verifyt, and I know the scan is pretty solid after manually measuring my feet with a ruler. The scan params are below:
Left: length 26.6cm, (last) width 9.7cm, heel width 6.5cm, instep height 6.5cm
Right: length 26.2cm, width 9.5cm, heel width 6.5cm, instep height 6.4cm

It would be grateful if you could recommend a few boots so I have a starting point when I get fitted later in the season. Thank you for your time!

Could you follow the previous directions for sharing your scan data with me, and give me a partial email so I can find your data?

[gregL]

Yeah, couple fitters with good reps, but need to talk to them about their experience with thinner boots before I commit. This may have to wait until next season until i can spend time Whistler Again.

Or, can you think of anything that may be better out of the box, ie, not cavernous in the heel/ankle with a decent forefoot width in that weight class?

If your forefoot proportions are relatively wider than your midfoot/heel, you should resign yourself to having every new boot punched for width - "out of the box" fit is something for people who only ski 2 or 3 days a year to think about. Touring shells with a floating upper cuff and/or partial/sliding tongue are wider than overlap designs anyway (this applies to pretty much everything in the 1000-1200 gram class, and there aren't that many options to start with). The TLT8 is wider and higher volume, but like I said the extra volume is everywhere (and I'm not a fan of the Speed Nose design).

[gregL]

It would be grateful if you could recommend a few boots so I have a starting point when I get fitted later in the season. Thank you for your time!

If you are a new skier, it kind of depends on how ambitious you are, how much time and effort you are willing to put into the sport to improve, and how much you weigh/how tall you are.

I'd normally put a new skier with your measurements in a 27.5 unless they are used to climbing shoes, hockey skates, or have a background in ballet simply for comfort. Your feet are narrower than anything made for recreational skiing, but stick to the "narrow" lasts (e.g. 97mm or 98mm). You can get narrower with a true race boot, but don't go there yet.

You instep is also on the low side (this used to mean Salomon or Lange, but both companies have gradually increased the height of their insteps as people tend not to buy boots that crush their instep in the shop). I'd still say a Salomon S/Max (next year it will be called the S/Pro Alpha) in around a 100 flex. If you're aggressive and eager to learn and will be skiing more than 20 days next season, go with the 26.5.

[FalseAnomaly]

If you are a new skier, it kind of depends on how ambitious you are, how much time and effort you are willing to put into the sport to improve, and how much you weigh/how tall you are.

I'd normally put a new skier with your measurements in a 27.5 unless they are used to climbing shoes, hockey skates, or have a background in ballet simply for comfort. Your feet are narrower than anything made for recreational skiing, but stick to the "narrow" lasts (e.g. 97mm or 98mm). You can get narrower with a true race boot, but don't go there yet.

You instep is also on the low side (this used to mean Salomon or Lange, but both companies have gradually increased the height of their insteps as people tend not to buy boots that crush their instep in the shop). I'd still say a Salomon S/Max (next year it will be called the S/Pro Alpha) in around a 100 flex. If you're aggressive and eager to learn and will be skiing more than 20 days next season, go with the 26.5.

Thanks! I have no previous experience in those sports you mentioned, but 20 days next season is possible for me, so I might go with 26.5. Also would 100 flex be "grown out of" if I learn to ski more aggressively? For reference I am 5'10" and around 150 - 160 (have not measured in a while) lbs.

[MarkVK]

Hi Greg, I tried to reply to your post #448 last weekend, but it looks like the system wouldn't let me reply yet with an inserted quote, so I'll try again here. I scanned the QR code and my initials on verifyt are MK.

Yes, you are correct on the boots I meant to type (Dynafit Radical Pro and Scarpa Maestrale RS). The Hawx Prime XTD had been on my radar too, but I was curious if there was something a little lighter that might fit my feet. That said, the Prime XTD can definitely work if it's a better fit. It would be great to hear what you think after looking at my scans. Thank you!

[gregL]

Hi Greg, I tried to reply to your post #448 last weekend, but it looks like the system wouldn't let me reply yet with an inserted quote, so I'll try again here. I scanned the QR code and my initials on verifyt are MK.

Yes, you are correct on the boots I meant to type (Dynafit Radical Pro and Scarpa Maestrale RS). The Hawx Prime XTD had been on my radar too, but I was curious if there was something a little lighter that might fit my feet. That said, the Prime XTD can definitely work if it's a better fit. It would be great to hear what you think after looking at my scans. Thank you!

This scan was done on Feb. 7 and the email host is cox.net, right? See your email for my response. If you want to go llghter than the boots mentioned, tell me how much lighter . . .

[MarkVK]

Thanks Greg! Yes that's me. I just sent you an email. I'm not looking for anything under 1300g, just a nice balance of up/down for a dedicated touring boot.

[Reformed]

I just read through this again and wanted to send props in Greg's direction for all of the work that he is doing behind the scenes here. Pretty damn awesome!

[gregL]

Thanks! I have no previous experience in those sports you mentioned, but 20 days next season is possible for me, so I might go with 26.5. Also would 100 flex be "grown out of" if I learn to ski more aggressively? For reference I am 5'10" and around 150 - 160 (have not measured in a while) lbs.

Hard to say. If you are a true beginner, 100 is about as high as you want to go for the present. If you progress rapidly, you may "outgrow" that boot in a season, but at 150 lbs. probably not. People have different preferences in terms of boot flex, too, depending on snow, terrain choice, equipment choice on a given day, and "mindset" - I know much bigger guys than you who ski very well (but smoothly) in 110 flex boots at a 7 DIN and have no problem.

You have no way of knowing the answers to most of these questions until you ski more.

[Duffman]

Edit my own reply, I am in fact an idiot and found the QR code. Scanned it and the Veryfit linked with evo.

Currently in an OG Cochise 130 pro 27.5 with a ProWrap and punches at the met heads bilaterally and navicular. Also had small big toe punch for length on the longer right foot. Fit has been decent except length is a bit tight on the right foot , especially noticable on walk mode where toe crashes into front of the boot The shells are shot at this point. Wanted to consider another Cochise 130 , but was curious how the new fit is, especially with the BSL being a bit shorter I think for a give size . Don't know if this actually impacts length or is just bc the sole blocks aren't removable anymore

[gregL]

Edit my own reply, I am in fact an idiot and found the QR code. Scanned it and the Veryfit linked with evo.

Currently in an OG Cochise 130 pro 27.5 with a ProWrap and punches at the met heads bilaterally and navicular. Also had small big toe punch for length on the longer right foot. Fit has been decent except length is a bit tight on the right foot , especially noticable on walk mode where toe crashes into front of the boot The shells are shot at this point. Wanted to consider another Cochise 130 , but was curious how the new fit is, especially with the BSL being a bit shorter I think for a give size . Don't know if this actually impacts length or is just bc the sole blocks aren't removable anymore

I can't feel a difference in length with the new Cochise vs the old - at any rate, BSL doesn't have a direct correlation to interior shell length beyond the obvious limitations; I have 26.5 boots that fit fine with BSL's from 287 to 310mm . . .

[m9ce01]

I didn't know such an app existed. My father told me about it today. I'm just shocked. It's interesting enough.

[Timl]

gregL In your opinion/experience, what do you consider the lowest volume 50/50 boot? I'm currently in a Rossi elite 130, but even though a stated 98mm, it is overall too much volume. The boot best fit I've had so far is in the Salomon s/max. I have tried on the shift but is a bigger last/volume ( wish Salomon had a shift in the s/max last). I'm leaning towards an XT3 LV, but would great to know what the short list is of the narrow 50/50 boots. I live in an area where selection is limited and will likely have to order/try on/return to sample a couple options.<br>Thanks

[gregL]

gregL In your opinion/experience, what do you consider the lowest volume 50/50 boot? I'm currently in a Rossi elite 130, but even though a stated 98mm, it is overall too much volume. The boot best fit I've had so far is in the Salomon s/max. I have tried on the shift but is a bigger last/volume ( wish Salomon had a shift in the s/max last). I'm leaning towards an XT3 LV, but would great to know what the short list is of the narrow 50/50 boots. I live in an area where selection is limited and will likely have to order/try on/return to sample a couple options.<br>Thanks

The list isn't long, especially if your ankle and midfoot are also narrow. You are not the only one who wishes Salomon made a Shift Max in the 98mm last . . .

For the time being, it is the Lange XT3 LV and Atomic Hawx Ultra XTD. Let me know if you have other questions, I own both.

[Timl]

The list isn't long, especially if your ankle and midfoot are also narrow. You are not the only one who wishes Salomon made a Shift Max in the 98mm last . . .

For the time being, it is the Lange XT3 LV and Atomic Hawx Ultra XTD. Let me know if you have other questions, I own both.

Thanks for the reply. I have an older pair of RX130 LVs (2013 I think, the white cuff / green boot version) would the XT3 LV be the same fit or have they changed over the years?
Between the XT3 and the Ultra XTD which one would have:
lowest instep
narrowest cuff
lowest ankle volume/heel pocket

[gregL]

Thanks for the reply. I have an older pair of RX130 LVs (2013 I think, the white cuff / green boot version) would the XT3 LV be the same fit or have they changed over the years?
Between the XT3 and the Ultra XTD which one would have:
lowest instep
narrowest cuff
lowest ankle volume/heel pocket

The fit is similar but not exactly the same; forefoot volume is a bit larger and heel retention is a bit better due to improved liners.

Lange has a lower instep, Atomic Ultra has a far narrower cuff, ankle volume is similar but retention is better in the Atomic because the narrower cuff won't let you move vertically.

[skimeow]

Hey Greg, I scanned your QR but I couldn't tell if it worked. It said I'd connected with evo but then went back to the home screen so I'm not sure it did anything. I can PM you my personal info if that helps?

I'm in 26.5 Salomon S/Max right now but I've been noticing a bit of heel slop. According to the scanner app, I have a high instep and narrow heels.



I'm running the S/Max with custom footbeds, stock liners, and no shell work. I've got about 60 days on the boots. I want to make a performance upgrade, and I'm on the fence between zipfits or plug boots. What would you recommend for me? If I get plug boots, can a bootfitter make the instep work, or should I go for a specific brand of plug that will have a higher instep?

[gregL]

Hey Greg, I scanned your QR but I couldn't tell if it worked. It said I'd connected with evo but then went back to the home screen so I'm not sure it did anything. I can PM you my personal info if that helps?

I'm in 26.5 Salomon S/Max right now but I've been noticing a bit of heel slop. According to the scanner app, I have a high instep and narrow heels.



I'm running the S/Max with custom footbeds, stock liners, and no shell work. I've got about 60 days on the boots. I want to make a performance upgrade, and I'm on the fence between zipfits or plug boots. What would you recommend for me? If I get plug boots, can a bootfitter make the instep work, or should I go for a specific brand of plug that will have a higher instep?

PM me with the email address you registered with on Verifyt, and I'll take a closer look at your data.

[gregL]

Hey Greg, I scanned your QR but I couldn't tell if it worked. It said I'd connected with evo but then went back to the home screen so I'm not sure it did anything. I can PM you my personal info if that helps?

I'm in 26.5 Salomon S/Max right now but I've been noticing a bit of heel slop. According to the scanner app, I have a high instep and narrow heels.
I'm running the S/Max with custom footbeds, stock liners, and no shell work. I've got about 60 days on the boots. I want to make a performance upgrade, and I'm on the fence between zipfits or plug boots. What would you recommend for me? If I get plug boots, can a bootfitter make the instep work, or should I go for a specific brand of plug that will have a higher instep?

Check your PM's for my answer. If you want better performance, the first order of business is always to get the shell closer to your foot rather than fill up space with a liner. That likely means dropping to a 25.5 shell (and possibly punching the right toe for length). Whether you can make a 92mm or 93mm last work, and whether you can get the shorter shell to accommodate your instep is a function of who you have as a bootfitter. Of the plug boots on the market, I'd say the Atomic Redsters have a slightly taller instep than the rest, but you'll probably need a combination of localized heating over the instep and bootboard/shell grinding with any of them. There is also the question of whether or not you're comfortable walking around on a sole that's about as slippery as your ski bases, and may need planing just to fit into an ISO9462 binding.

[skimeow]

Thanks for the advice here and in the PM! I'm working on finding a good fitter in the Norcal/Tahoe area. StartHaus and Olympic Bootworks have been the two recommended to me.

I hadn't really considered bumping down a mondo, but it makes sense to try. Would you say that 25.5 is borderline and/or mostly for one pair of high performance boots, or is 26.5 definitely too big and I should be in 25.5 across the board?

[gregL]

Would you say that 25.5 is borderline and/or mostly for one pair of high performance boots, or is 26.5 definitely too big and I should be in 25.5 across the board?

This is another "no single right answer" question. Most expert/elite skiers with your foot would shoot for a 25.5 for their performance ALPINE boot, and would have someone in mind to work on it. If you planned to tour on it, 26.5 would probably be fine. If you only ski a few times a year and aren't too picky about performance, 26.5 might be too tight, etc.

Again, the primary reason to drop to a 25.5 would be to reduce the width of the shell 2mm, it will take even more effort on the bootfitter's part to make the instep work. I can't really see everything on Verifyt, and I'm not there to help, so I would rely on your bootfitter's judgement.

[Jvhowube]

Don't have the scan handy, but here are my numbers:

Left: 26.4, 96
Right: 26.2, 95

Low instep, low arch, massive inside ankle bones.

I'm in a Lange RX 130 LV, 26.5 with custom liners and custom insoles. Depending on the day and the temperature, sometimes it feels like there's some slop in them despite the full custom surefoot liner, and other times they feel perfect. Because of this, I've always wondered if I'm on the fence for 25.5.