Ukraine

[MTT]

They'd probably try to shoot down the CAP. You put CAPs over what you control. We'd have to establish control over the airspace first.

We could sacrifice a pair of F-16s as a casus belli, but why would we want to? Anyone wanna volunteer for that?

Having been in the military I can assure you that there are many Americans who would like to go kick some ass. Especially when it’s a righteous cause

[Dexter Rutecki]

It was a post, and commenting on it doesn't show my support or lack of for Joe Rogen.

It shows that you consume what someone like that publishes. Why? You don't see a problem with that? Well, that's the problem. Again, how about what Putin has to say? Or TASS? Or Trump? Why not get information from the My Pillow crackhead? That could also just be a post and wouldn't show support or lack of it. Like I said, good information from smart, studied people is readily available. Read what they have to say.

Now I regret being apologetic. Seriously, why do you gotta cunt everything up with your bias?

I didn't cunt anything by citing a known purveyor of lies. And it's not a bias to rely on credible sources. Go ahead and don't be apologetic---I don't give a shit, but it's not my fault you act like a douche and get douchey when called on it. But you do you--keep reading Rogan or whatever jackass you want to follow. Personally I wouldn't admit to it even if I read that shit--your call.

And beyond that, getting emotional over my mention of the guy is EXTRA cunty.

Emotional? Not even a little. But I guess you're a little triggered there, amirite snowflake? Yet again, don't post stupid shit if you don't like being called stupid.

Thank you for your contribution. I will very much enjoy Europe.

Not sure they're more open to Rogan citations over there, but let us know.

[summit]

Anyone seeing any live feeds from Kiev. Or a transmission from the Ukrainian president? Last I saw he was still hunkered down in the countries capital Kiev.

You think the Russians are going to kill the elected president of Ukraine?

How will the world react to that?

What’s it going to take for polite society to say. Ok that’s enough

He'll appear on TV a week later from the basement of the Lubyanka building with a glassy sodium-pentothal stare to declare his capitulation and resignation.

Hopefully he unasses the area west... perhaps symbolically to London as the governments-in-exile did fleeing the Nazis in WWII.

[MTT]

Joe Rogan has guests on his show who are allegedly well versed on a subject. He lets them say shit

You don’t always hear Joe Rohan’s opinion. You hear what people who know have to say

You don’t like what they say? Too bad

Just attack Joe Rogan without having to confront the multitude of personalities

Like a doctor/ research scientist

Very transparent and just dumb. Why?

You have to be smarter than that. Don’t be another lazy parrot

[bodywhomper]

i know a few ukrainian refuges/immigrants, who left ukraine in the 70's and 80's. my wife is part ukrainian, but her family fled in the 1910's and the remainder of their village was executed in their graves in 1941.

On social media, i am seeing growing push by the diaspora to urge the leaders of the US, Germany, UK, and France to cut off Russia from SWIFT, close Ukrainian airspace, and send in NATO troops.

Apparently, Ukraine requested this week to again join NATO. Putin's threat seemed pretty clear. Putin has "won" every overt conflict that he's been engaged in AFAIK. With Putin's threat in place, what's going to keep him from blazing a path Kaliningrad next.

[bennymac]

The poliass thread is full of
- this is overblown Russia won’t start a war
- this is Biden/ the dems just trying to distract
- Russia has a long history in Ukraine so they’re just taking back what is theirs
- Ukraine has neo Nazis so it’s justified to invade them
- the US invaded other countries so no criticism of this can be leveled by politicians or US citizens
- we allow Mexicans to cross the border illegally so why are we upset about Russia doing it

these same posters are in here but they’ve mysteriously stopped short of repeating that kind of BS in here

[raisingarizona13]

It shows that you consume what someone like that publishes. Why? You don't see a problem with that? Well, that's the problem. Again, how about what Putin has to say? Or TASS? Or Trump? Why not get information from the My Pillow crackhead? That could also just be a post and wouldn't show support or lack of it. Like I said, good information from smart, studied people is readily available. Read what they have to say.



I didn't cunt anything by citing a known purveyor of lies. And it's not a bias to rely on credible sources. Go ahead and don't be apologetic---I don't give a shit, but it's not my fault you act like a douche and get douchey when called on it. But you do you--keep reading Rogan or whatever jackass you want to follow. Personally I wouldn't admit to it even if I read that shit--your call.

Emotional? Not even a little. But I guess you're a little triggered there, amirite snowflake? Yet again, don't post stupid shit if you don't like being called stupid.

Not sure they're more open to Rogan citations over there, but let us know.

Matt?

Either way you're a gaslight-er like him.

The rogan post agreed with that posters comment and it was a dark but funny meme. You're ridiculous.

[MTT]

The tv just said

Russia is a gas station with an army

And none of the sanctions touch Russia ability to sell gas and collect the money

[Cono Este]

On social media, i am seeing growing push by the diaspora to urge the leaders of the US, Germany, UK, and France to cut off Russia from SWIFT, close Ukrainian airspace, and send in NATO troops.
.

I am seeing that too. Some congressman on wolf just recvomrnded that. They can say dumb shit when they are only responsible for Toledo.

Anyone know what the WOPR says about an air cap?






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[raisingarizona13]

Joe Rogan has guests on his show who are allegedly well versed on a subject. He lets them say shit

You don’t always hear Joe Rohan’s opinion. You hear what people who know have to say

You don’t like what they say? Too bad

Just attack Joe Rogan without having to confront the multitude of personalities

Like a doctor/ research scientist

Very transparent and just dumb. Why?

You have to be smarter than that. Don’t be another lazy parrot

Because he doesn't always completely agree with Dexters political bias so therefor like a lot of cunty liberals
(disclaimer: there are plenty of moderate liberals that are cool) they prefer to cancel shit instead of actually listening to others and trying to get it because that's way too much work for them.

[dunfree]

Half the Russian troops are likely conscripts. I doubt they are stoked... but maybe combat means less rape by their superiors.

iirc conscripts are not supposed to serve outside the country, no idea what that means in practice or if that was changed. Conscripts are dirt cheap (2,000 rubles a month, like $25 right now), contracts get paid way more.

The monetary cost of the war might start to matter soon for Russia - none of its cheap and they don’t have a lot in terms of numbers of truly modern stuff because they can’t afford it. Part of the reason they pulled out of Afghanistan - they couldn’t afford it. In terms of human cost they only lost 15k people in Afghanistan- which was felt as high by the populace - worth thinking about in terms of casualties

[MTT]

Read back through some of the posts

I didn’t think Putin was this crazy. I didn’t think the world would not respond

Maybe he has correctly read the west and figured he can just invade a country and get away with it

[dunfree]

Because he doesn't always completely agree with Dexters political bias so therefor like a lot of cunty liberals
(disclaimer: there are plenty of moderate liberals that are cool) they prefer to cancel shit instead of actually listening to others and trying to get it because that's way too much work for them.

Or maybe he doesn’t like joe rogan because joes a stoned rambling dipshit who platforms a bunch of dipshits.

[The SnowShow]

If you go on Flight Radar 24, you can see Forte 12 just hanging out at 53,000’, over the Black Sea. It’s transponder is obviously on, so the US wants Russia to see it. I assume there are other drones right over Ukraine and we’re feeding them info?

[dunfree]

Read back through some of the posts

I didn’t think Putin was this crazy. I didn’t think the world would not respond

Maybe he has correctly read the west and figured he can just invade a country and get away with it

Or maybe he’s gone fucking crazy high on his own supply in what’s been almost two years of Covid isolation for him.

[raisingarizona13]

Or maybe he doesn’t like joe rogan because joes a stoned rambling dipshit who platforms a bunch of dipshits.

Thats totally fine but why insult someone that mentions a Rogen meme that's not showing support or not supporting the guy. Is it too difficult too discuss this without becoming some virtual signaling cancel the other person dick waving contest?

Did I apologize to you about my comments earlier? Well.....I feel silly now. Thanks for your contribution. I greatly appreciate this opportunity.

Fuck I need to go skiing.

[Cono Este]

If you go on Flight Radar 24, you can see Forte 12 just hanging out at 53,000’, over the Black Sea. It’s transponder is obviously on, so the US wants Russia to see it. I assume there are other drones right over Ukraine and we’re feeding them info?

I love some of the cctv video, Russian tankers pulled over at a gas station.

Too bad there are no air assets to take ‘em out. Dumb fuckers should smile at the camera.


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[summit]

One side of my family fled the Russian Empire to escape persecution around the turn of the 20th century. They came from an area south of Pinsk probably on the (now) Ukrainian side of the border.

Anyone who didn't flee was dead by 1944: killed by Czarist mobs, the Soviets, the Nazis, or their minions.

I do NOT identify as Ukrainian, Belarusian, Russian, or even European. I don't feel personally attached, not even in the slightest, to the traditions nor the history of those nations.

What I do sympathize with is the fate the Ukrainians suffered under the Russians, the Nazis, the Russians again, and now the Russian once more. I sympathize with people who yearn for freedom and self-determination, and I fear for the freedom of "who's next."

I am seeing that too. Some congressman on wolf just recvomrnded that. They can say dumb shit when they are only responsible for Toledo.

Anyone know what the WOPR says about an air cap?

Wouldn't you like to play a nice game of chess?

[Cono Este]

Thats totally fine but why insult someone that mentions a Rogen meme that's not showing support or not supporting the guy. Is it too difficult too discuss this without becoming some virtual signaling cancel the other person dick waving contest?

Did I apologize to you about my comments earlier? Well.....I feel silly now. Thanks for your contribution. I greatly appreciate this opportunity.

Fuck I need to go skiing.

The stupid talk will stop if we wind up in it with Russia. People will get real serious fast.


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[MultiVerse]

- Ukraine has neo Nazis so it’s justified to invade them

This is one of the official, not just propaganda, excuses Russia uses for justifing the invasion of Ukraine.

The sad irony is both Russia and Ukraine have a long history of anti-Semitism but Ukraine overwhelmingly elected a Jewish president and now Russia is trying to kill him.

[Cono Este]

One side of my family fled the Russian Empire to escape persecution around the turn of the 20th century. They came from an area south of Pinsk probably on the (now) Ukrainian side of the border.

Anyone who didn't flee was dead by 1944: killed by Czarist mobs, the Soviets, the Nazis, or their minions.

I do NOT identify as Ukrainian, Belarusian, Russian, or even European. I don't feel personally attached, not even in the slightest, to the traditions nor the history of those nations.

What I do sympathize with is the fate the Ukrainians suffered under the Russians, the Nazis, the Russians again, and now the Russian once more. I sympathize with people who yearn for freedom and self-determination, and I fear for the freedom of "who's next."



Wouldn't you like to play a nice game of chess?

We literally stepped back in time 50 yrs. Having grown up in the 70’s and 80’s it been a long time since I went to bed fearing a 2000 degree blast coming through my window at 1 am.




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[bennymac]

Just amazing to hear people repeating that shit - and then posting in here with “concern”

[summit]

If you go on Flight Radar 24, you can see Forte 12 just hanging out at 53,000’, over the Black Sea. It’s transponder is obviously on, so the US wants Russia to see it. I assume there are other drones right over Ukraine and we’re feeding them info?

RQ-4. Unmanned, squawking in international airspace...

Does make you wonder if we have sent some stealth UAVs in to provide intel for the Ukranians.

[riser4]

Tucker has Putin's dick so far up his ass that he can taste his own bullshit.

Yup

[summit]

This is one of the official, not just propaganda, excuses Russia uses for justifing the invasion of Ukraine.

The sad irony is both Russia and Ukraine have a long history of anti-Semitism but Ukraine overwhelmingly elected a Jewish president and now Russia is trying to kill him.

Mind-blowing in several respects. I took notice on learning Ukraine had elected a Jewish president.