OFFICIAL I70 BITCH THREAD....

[MiddleOfNight]

Been saying it for years, I70 and the associated traffic is just a valve controlling the flow to the mountains. If they "Fix" it so people can get here easier, it's just going to ruin things more.

There's something to this.
When the monorails solve all I70 issues, the mountains will be overrun.

[Danno]

It's the same thing argued in a different thread, that broadband to rural mountain towns is killing those areas, because the work from home crew suddenly find it attractive.

[montanaskier]

Well, it's all speculative at this point but I'm sure you're both right, and I suspect we'll face that in most towns on our radar if we ever get so lucky. And we'll do our research when and if that time comes.

But fuck, I live in Boulder, I'm pretty fucking familiar with the haves and have nots dynamic (in schools and in town generally). I mean, ski racing extracts a couple thousand from us and then constantly tries to fundraise off of us, and they get it from many parents! And while they have scholarships, it's not something I'd be eligible for or comfortable accepting; I'm in the middle ground of not truly being poor but not having anywhere near the money of most people around me. I fully expect that dynamic to continue if I move to the mountains.

I thought dentists were loaded


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[summit]

It's the same thing argued in a different thread, that broadband to rural mountain towns is killing those areas, because the work from home crew suddenly find it attractive.

Cut the fiber, bomb the tunnels!

[galibier_numero_un]

aren't you the guy who says TABOR is awesome? Well, if you're wondering why we have these private companies installing toll lanes...

Yup, my scorecard said it was about time for mention of TABOR to resurface ;-)

[galibier_numero_un]

... Been saying it for years, I70 and the associated traffic is just a valve controlling the flow to the mountains. If they "Fix" it so people can get here easier, it's just going to ruin things more. You'll get to the ski area an hour faster just to wait in an hour longer lift line.

This has been my point of view for years as well.

... Thom

[fastfred]

things are looking good
tabor
monorail
front rangers vs jadded locals
never ending construction

seem to be missing
rental cars?
people pulling boats and travel trailers in the snow?

have I missed something?

[timackie]

Not much suck on 70 yesterday, but we stuck to the plan. CDOT signs warned of 2 hour delays both ways thru Idaho Springs Monday and Tuesday. Be warned. Gonna suck for us unwashed masses.
Skiing yesterday at WP didn’t suck at all. Soft snow at opening, then Challenger lift opened after lunch in the Utah Junction lot for deep laps until the quads conceded. Best, and by far the latest first resort day of the season I’ve had in long time.

[simple]

Just wait until the Floyd Hill project hits. People are going to lose their minds with the delays.

East of i25 project on I70 seems to be going well. Fastfred and I have visited to give them pointers on their operations. Gonna change that area completely.

[Foggy_Goggles]

Utah Junction

Don't say that. Don't say Explorer lift. Don't Groom Dilly Dally Alley! thanks

[Danno]

things are looking good
tabor
monorail
front rangers vs jadded locals
never ending construction

seem to be missing
rental cars?
people pulling boats and travel trailers in the snow?

have I missed something?

What else are we supposed to talk about? How many different ways can we bitch about I-70?

[MakersTeleMark]

What else are we supposed to talk about? How many different ways can we bitch about I-70?

Quote me, "Danno, count the ways!"

[timackie]

Don't say that. Don't say Explorer lift.

My middle school son kept shouting this at me yesterday. As a former participant in the Eskimo Ski Club who wasn’t able to continue after it shut down, he was pretty upset about the name change, too.

[Name Redacted]

Should we start discussing the banning of semi-trucks during peak hours yet?

[MiddleOfNight]

things are looking good
tabor
monorail
front rangers vs jadded locals
never ending construction

seem to be missing
rental cars?
people pulling boats and travel trailers in the snow?

have I missed something?

tractor trailer restrictions
sunrise glare
...

[Danno]

Eskimo is now Explorer?

Didn't know that. But I have far more important things to worry about to retain some shred of core local status.

[Foggy_Goggles]

Eskimo is now Explorer?

I thought I was the last to know but apparently not. You can call it anything you want. They probably should have changed the name when they removed and replaced the lift. The only ones that bug me a bit are Utah Junction and Doterso Junction. Those are The C Lot and The Summit lot or Bottom Lot. And if you say Challenger Chair, expect people to look at you funny.

It is 100% stupid, but you pretty much have to adopt the patrol names for shit if you want to hold down a conversation about "where do you want to go". Here are few easy ones, who know where they are:

Cowards Traverse
Bullfrog
Cooper Creek
Fandango

[Underoos]

It is 100% stupid, but you pretty much have to adopt the patrol names for shit if you want to hold down a conversation about "where do you want to go". Here are few easy ones, who know where they are:

Cowards Traverse
Bullfrog
Cooper Creek
Fandango

Bummer Flats
Oly Pie
Pony Road
Guy Fawx
Evac Route
Do or Die (RIP)
Brave New World
Living room/kitchen
Practice Hill
Gilligan’s Island
5 points
810 cut

Logistics was fun. Starting from Sunspot, what’s the highest tower of C Chair can you get to without traversing uphill?

[Foggy_Goggles]

Bummer Flats
Oly Pie
Pony Road
Guy Fawx
Evac Route
Do or Die (RIP)
Brave New World
Living room/kitchen
Practice Hill
Gilligan’s Island
5 points
810 cut

Logistics was fun. Starting from Sunspot, what’s the highest tower of C Chair can you get to without traversing uphill?

I know about half of those. It's kinda weird where the only names that are in common usage are now the patrol names. There used to be names for everything by everyone. Specifically tree runs, jumps and huts. I heard two recently that I have no idea about "No fat chicks hut" and "The Mario Kart Trees".

Mostly we need to bring back The Flame Thrower. We hit it a few times right before the lockdown then it got fenced up good. WP/MJ is far from the most rad place but they do a good job of running a skiers mountain and letting people have fun.

[Foggy_Goggles]

I can't believe Practice Hill isn't on the map. No body says, "Lets take lower lower Village Way to Lower Parkway" they say "Goob Tube to the Practice Hill".

It is so strange how there are hardly any good signs that tell you how to get somewhere. The best is if you ask people now to get to the C Lot from the top of the Prospector. They act like it will take all day. Tweedle Dee>Oly>Pony Road

[hatchgreenchile]

"No fat chicks hut".

One of my favorites - it hides in plain sight!

[Danno]

I don't know any of those names, guess I'll have to stick with my lame front ranger status.

[CLsurf]

I don't know any of those names, guess I'll have to stick with my lame front ranger status.

Feeling the same way here. I didn't even know that they renamed clot.....

[Foggy_Goggles]

Feeling the same way here. I didn't even know that they renamed clot.....

I don't think it has, in the last 25 years, ever been signed as the C Lot. So what Underoos was alluding to is that those are official names. Employees, like ski patrol, have to take a logistics test. Those names filter into the local vernacular. Some of them serve no purpose, like Cooper Creek (top of the Prospector would work fine). Some of them are basically unsigned trails & traverses that are critical to mountain navigation (Cowards Traverse is the trail that goes right of Whistlestop below the top of the Super Gay that goes to Sterling, Spike & Arrow Head). Others (Living Room, Fandango) are just tree areas usually between two runs.

Winter Park is strange like that, there is very little on mountain signage or names on the map. It makes the mountain a little difficult to learn.

[Foggy_Goggles]

I don't know any of those names, guess I'll have to stick with my lame front ranger status.

Do you every find yourself saying "where are you going, where are you at, how do we get there". That's where common named can be helpful.