2020 Wildfire Season

[PB]

Sudden Oak Death

Thank BK; apologies for rude jargonism; I don't feel smarter, just foolish.

Say jargonism 5 times really fast, then clean yourself up.

[Skidog]

Sudden Oak Death

I dont recall if its this or some other wood borne pest/disease, but I know round these parts of NY you cant bring firewood to your camp site. Have to buy local to where you are camping to prevent spread.

[Meadow Skipper]

Sudden Oak Death

Ah, thanks.

[XXX-er]

people on TGR making up stupid fucking acronyms is a pet peeve of mine

[Pow4Brains]

people on TGR making up stupid fucking acronyms is a pet peeve of mine

Whatever JONG.

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[frorider]

people on Teton Gravity Research making up stupid fucking acronyms is a pet peeve of mine

FIFY

[XXX-er]

Whatever JONG.

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FOADYSFA eh

[XXX-er]

FIFY

Using the acronym TGR on a site which is named TGR is more than reasonable

I'm not so sure about FOADYSFA which would be the example

[Ottime]

Or

BCTSATMGTG

Amiright?

[jackstraw]

people on TGR making up stupid fucking acronyms is a pet peeve of mine

Your user name is an acronym, right?

[glademaster]

Your user name is an acronym, right?

I've always read it as "30-er."

[jackstraw]

I've always read it as "30-er."

I wasn't sure if he was a master porn watch-er?

[east or bust]

I've always read it as "30-er."

I wasn't sure if he was a master porn watch-er?

Definitely the former

[XXX-er]

Your user name is an acronym, right?

https://www.wavesport.com/sites/defa.../WS%201999.pdf

No idea, but XXX ^^ was the name of a model of super edgey Wavesport WW playboat from 1999, the edges were sharp enough to shave with ... very sporty

I used the name on Boater talk then on TT.com and then TGR,

I had a X / Z / XXX, with all the different colors WS pumped out at random I somehow ironically ended up with all the boats bought used in a patriotic red white blue fade

the series started with the X which was I think a play on the x-files, a totally revolutionary flat bottomed play boat, then came the Z which was higher volume, then came the Y which was really high volume, last was the super low volume XXX

XXX was so edgey/ low volume it took me 2 months and 6 attempts to outfit it with a pointy toe heel block system like a fucking ballet dancer doing the plie so i could fit in it

[frorider]

Using the acronym TGR on a site which is named TGR is more than reasonable

Whoooooosh.

[neufox47]

Smoke has finally cleared out a bit in the Sierra foothills.


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[bodywhomper]

Smoke has finally cleared out a bit in the Sierra foothills.


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Not here. Ugh

[jackstraw]

https://www.wavesport.com/sites/defa.../WS%201999.pdf

No idea, but XXX ^^ was the name of a model of super edgey Wavesport WW playboat from 1999, the edges were sharp enough to shave with ... very sporty

I used the name on Boater talk then on TT.com and then TGR,

I had a X / Z / XXX, with all the different colors WS pumped out at random I somehow ironically ended up with all the boats bought used in a patriotic red white blue fade

the series started with the X which was I think a play on the x-files, a totally revolutionary flat bottomed play boat, then came the Z which was higher volume, then came the Y which was really high volume, last was the super low volume XXX

XXX was so edgey/ low volume it took me 2 months and 6 attempts to outfit it with a pointy toe heel block system like a fucking ballet dancer doing the plie so i could fit in it

Ahh, I remember seeing that boat for the first time and saying to myself wtf! My legs would fall asleep instantly in that thing...if I could even get in.

[bodywhomper]

Smoke has finally cleared out a bit in the Sierra foothills.


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Not here. Ugh

I take it back. Finally!

[bodywhomper]

For y’all’s reading pleasure

https://www.propublica.org/article/t...anybody-listen

[bodywhomper]

Something not addressed in that article is what air quality would be like if we had prescribed fire in California that covered over 4 million acres per year. I don’t think I’ve ever seen modeling of those types of scenarios.

[PB]

It was squelched by a mob of whiney Karens.

Wait ...
Dammit, I missed the air quality trip wire. You're correct - a truly comprehensive controlled burn would pretty much create all the smoke we've been experienced.

Bu properly saved it could be stretched out such that on any given day maybe no so bad?

Maybe???

Nah.

[char_]

It was squelched by a mob of whiney Karens.

Wait ...
Dammit, I missed the air quality trip wire. You're correct - a truly comprehensive controlled burn would pretty much create all the smoke we've been experienced.

Bu properly saved it could be stretched out such that on any given day maybe no so bad?

Maybe???

Nah.

It is also about taking a more indirect approach when appropriate to treat those acres on an already going wildfire instead of having a goal of minimum acreage. Lots of fires that are 20 acres could be 100 acres under the right conditions. The Gila NF is sort of the model of how this is accomplished.

But yeah, pulling this off in CA with the associated urban interface, private property and air quality issues are huge issues that these experts who know the "answer" haven't resolved any better than anyone else.

[Rideski]

Brazil
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-b...-idUSKBN25P0NR

[old goat]

The alternative to controlled burns is thinning, but that's even less efficient and costly than controlled burns. There was a plan to build a cogeneration plant at the east placer dump to handle the thinned material but the plan fell through and it wouldn't have handled more than a fraction of the debris harvested. I don't know what else they can do with the stuff except burn it.
Prescribed burning won't deal with the over-dense population of mature trees. While those can be put to use, thinning them is a net money-loser for a logging company, so govt has to pay.

I don't think anyone doubts that 100 years of fire suppression was a bad idea. The question is how to get the genie back in the bottle.