Fear and Loathing, a Rat Flu Odyssey

[grinch]

Way to counter facts with insults

Then couple it with a decades old insult.

Where did you pick that up? a bar in Moab?

So you're a dumb fuck Bernie bro who thinks the nordic countries are socialist.

All you needed to say. Go give Benny a hand job before he gets Covid or at least don't lick your hands afterwards.

Oh the ironing

I thought cementhead was the only hypocrite who could stick his foot in his mouth that fast/bravo. Did you disinfect first?

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[grinch]

Cuomo has already started practicing in Mt. Vernon. He called for military assistance from the Feds in his press conference yesterday.

Maybe there was more to the WH meeting discussed then we know between dump and cuomo. Kompromat is always a possibility/takes off tinfoil hat

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[grinch]

How do we know that you can differentiate between test and testes?

Pretty sure he gargles with both. Its very confusing
NTTIAWWT

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[MakersTeleMark]

Can we stop this bs toxicity?

Please.

[Ripzalot]

You're a moron, this isn't going to be just a few weeks.

No you're a moron!

Few months, whatever. My point was mainly for basinbeaters freaked out wife. Just sit back, isolate and chill. Maybe stop reading this ridiculous thread.

One seat for Ripz, and one for BG. Perfect.

Ok, you are moran too. Never adding much except the opportunity to pile on the snark or lame joke.

How is fucking off from all this not the obvious answer?

I'll set up a chair for you and bmills. 2 meters apart of course. Byob.

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[MakersTeleMark]

No you're a moron!

Few months, whatever. My point was mainly for basinbeaters freaked out wife. Just sit back, isolate and chill. Maybe stop reading this ridiculous thread.


Ok, you are moran too. Never adding much except the opportunity to pile on the snark or lame joke.


I'll set up a chair for you and bmills. 2 meters apart of course. Byob.

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Really? You can't, please?

[sb]

Day 37, the maggots turned on each other.

Oh wait, that’s every day.

Carry on

[Ripzalot]

Really? You can't, please?

Another opportunistic snarker grabbing at low hanging fruit. Or is this white-knighting?

Post facts or STFU.

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[Ripzalot]

Day 37, the maggots turned on each other.

Oh wait, that’s every day.

Carry on

Noted. [emoji38]

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[sb]

[jono]

Sneeze droplets don't stay airborne for that long. They land on something eventually.

I'm starting to wonder if you're being serious with these repeat posts and linking to yourself, but just in case you are, here's a description of airborne particle issues that seems pertinent. From https://www.bode-science-center.com/...et-nuclei.html

Airborne droplet nuclei develop when the fluid of pathogenic droplets (1-5 µm in size; micrometre = one-thousandth of a millimetre) evaporates. They are so small and light they may remain suspended in the air for several hours. Thus, they may also infect persons entering a room which has been left by a patient long ago. Also, airborne droplet nuclei can be widely dispersed by air currents.

Fundamental to the argument for masks, particularly iceman's point about putting them on the infected, is the difference between those droplets and the ones from a sneeze:

Direct spread of pathogens via aerosols. The droplets, which have a diameter of 100 µm to 2 mm, are aerosolised through sneezing, speaking or coughing. As these droplets cannot float through the air for a longer time, they only pose a risk to contact persons at a distance of 1-2 metres to the patient.

Masks raise humidity (which helps keep the large droplets from evaporating) and cut velocity (which reduces the spread radius). Time to bust out the Sneffles again.

[Timberridge]

So of course Trump is calling it the Chinese Virus now.

Would you prefer he call it the Kung flu?

[4matic]

Wuhan Flu might be the sweet spot. Local without being nationalistic

[::: :::]

Or “Covid”
But Trump wants to deflect responsibility and point the finger at someone to make them the scapegoat

[toast2266]

Or “Covid”
But Trump wants to deflect responsibility and point the finger at someone to make them the scapegoat

I heard that Hunter Biden is patient zero.

[MultiVerse]

Wuhan Flu might be the sweet spot. Local without being nationalistic

FWIW, the people who make these decisions recommend not referring to a location because it tends to stigmatize that place and hurt business.


Also a 5.7-magnitude quake just rocked Salt Lake so Timberidge might want to strike Latter Day Saints from the list.

[fantastic_damage]

Makes little difference to me what people call it, but the people who make these decisions recommend not referring to a location at all because it tends to stigmatize that place and hurt business.


Also a 5.7-magnitude quake just rocked Salt Lake so Timberidge might want to strike Latter Day Saints from the list.

WTF is going on in the world, yeah woke up to the earthquake here in downtown SLC, extremely strong by Utah standards.

[Mofro261]

I'm starting to wonder if you're being serious with these repeat posts and linking to yourself, but just in case you are, here's a description of airborne particle issues that seems pertinent. From https://www.bode-science-center.com/...et-nuclei.html



Fundamental to the argument for masks, particularly iceman's point about putting them on the infected, is the difference between those droplets and the ones from a sneeze:



Masks raise humidity (which helps keep the large droplets from evaporating) and cut velocity (which reduces the spread radius). Time to bust out the Sneffles again.

Aerosol and Surface Stability of SARS-CoV-2 as Compared with SARS-CoV-1N Engl J Med. 2020 Mar 17.

A novel human coronavirus thatis now named severe acute respiratory syndromecoronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) (formerly called HCoV19) emerged in Wuhan, China, in late 2019 andis now causing a pandemic.1 We analyzed theaerosol and surface stability of SARS-CoV-2 andcompared it with SARS-CoV-1, the most closelyrelated human coronavirus.2

We evaluated the stability of SARS-CoV-2 andSARS-CoV-1 in aerosols and on various surfacesand estimated their decay rates using a Bayesianregression model (see the Methods section in theSupplementary Appendix, available with the fulltext of this letter at NEJM.org). SARS-CoV-2nCoV-WA1-2020 (MN985325.1) and SARS-CoV-1Tor2 (AY274119.3) were the strains used. Aerosols (<5 μm) containing SARS-CoV-2 (105.25 50%tissue-culture infectious dose [TCID50] per milliliter) or SARS-CoV-1 (106.75-7.00 TCID50 per milliliter)were generated with the use of a three-jet Collison nebulizer and fed into a Goldberg drum tocreate an aerosolized environment. The inoculum resulted in cycle-threshold values between20 and 22, similar to those observed in samplesobtained from the upper and lower respiratorytract in humans.

Our data consisted of 10 experimental conditions involving two viruses (SARS-CoV-2 andSARS-CoV-1) in five environmental conditions(aerosols, plastic, stainless steel, copper, and cardboard). All experimental measurements are reported as means across three replicates.

SARS-CoV-2 remained viable in aerosolsthroughout the duration of our experiment(3 hours), with a reduction in infectious titer from103.5 to 102.7 TCID50 per liter of air. This reductionwas similar to that observed with SARS-CoV-1,from 104.3 to 103.5 TCID50 per milliliter (Fig. 1A).

SARS-CoV-2 was more stable on plastic andstainless steel than on copper and cardboard, andviable virus was detected up to 72 hours after application to these surfaces (Fig. 1A), althoughthe virus titer was greatly reduced (from 103.7 to 100.6 TCID50 per milliliter of medium after 72 hourson plastic and from 103.7 to 100.6 TCID50 per milliliter after 48 hours on stainless steel). The stability kinetics of SARS-CoV-1 were similar (from103.4 to 100.7 TCID50 per milliliter after 72 hourson plastic and from 103.6 to 100.6 TCID50 per milliliter after 48 hours on stainless steel). On copper,no viable SARS-CoV-2 was measured after 4 hoursand no viable SARS-CoV-1 was measured after8 hours. On cardboard, no viable SARS-CoV-2 wasmeasured after 24 hours and no viable SARS-CoV-1 was measured after 8 hours (Fig. 1A).

Sars-CoV-2 particles are ~125 nM, large side for viruses.

[iceman]

Mofro, I know you're not an epidemiologist, but I'd be interested in your take on this article that Huckbucket posted a link to. While ge didn't go so far as to say he agreed, he didn't say he disagreed either. fwiw I think it's important https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/17/...reliable-data/

[Timberridge]

FWIW, the people who make these decisions recommend not referring to a location because it tends to stigmatize that place and hurt business.

Also a 5.7-magnitude quake just rocked Salt Lake so Timberidge might want to strike Latter Day Saints from the list.

Coxsackie, NY got a bum rap then.

I started my own branch of Unitarianism in Londonderry. We have a bus.

[BmillsSkier]

So we’re white-knighting the geographic origin of the virus now?

Clearly we have a long way to go before this gets serious.

[summit]

Aerosol and Surface Stability of SARS-CoV-2 as Compared with SARS-CoV-1N Engl J Med. 2020 Mar 17.





Sars-CoV-2 particles are ~125 nM, large side for viruses.

I circulated the prepress. WIDELY.

But many hospitals responded "damn the evidence we will still move to droplet... we don't have the PPE or the negative rooms"

Then I heard "oh but still airborne for aerosolizing procedures, then back to droplet"

"So, what about the aeresol residence that will present for >1hr in a normal room?"

"..."

[MontuckyFried]

So of course Trump is calling it the Chinese Virus now.

So why is "Spanish Flu" = ok, but "Chinese Flu" = not ok? I mean it DID come from there... along with SARS, Bird Flu, Swine Flu, etc.

I mean how many worldwide pandemics can those guys keep kicking off before we can stop having to be so politically correct?

Until the Chinese government is willing to do SOMETHING about their vile "wet markets," then we get to talk some trash, ok?

[El Chupacabra]

As a fellow, albeit somewhat older gen Xer, I say go. Or don't. It's just a random lottery of meaningless tragedy and a series of near escapes. So take pleasure in the details. You know, a Chick-fil-a Spicy Deluxe, those are good. The sky about ten minutes before it starts to rain. The moments where your laughter becomes a cackle. And you... you sit back and sip your Woodford Reserve, and ride your own melt.

Solid life coaching from Troy.

[BmillsSkier]

Solid life coaching from Troy.

The man knows what he speaks.