Please get a flu vaccine

[thefortrees]

Let’s add one more piece of anecdotal evidence to the statistics: I didn’t get the flu shot, and I’ve had an annoying respiratory infection for 2 weeks. Leveled me for a couple days and cough/exhaustion levels are just now manageable.


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[Kinnikinnick]

I remembered this article, but holy fuck it's 20 years old! Look at the memory on this kid here.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/1.../the-dead-zone

According to that synopsis of the article, it was the pig fuckers who created the Spanish flu

Taubenberger says the flu may be an avian flu transmitted by dicks to pigs, and through a joining of the avian flu with a swine flu, to people..

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[old goat]

Your immune system can benefit and strengthen its ability to fight viruses by letting it run its course. If we keep depending on a medical intervention to shorten or prevent an issue, the body can become lazy. I agree there are people that will benefit from it but IMO it's overkill trying to get everyone to take it.

My Dad gets it because he should.
I will not take it unless I feel I should.

You, as usual, are wildly misinformed.

Vaccines are excellent exercise for your immune system.

exactly. That's how vaccines work. By stimulating and strengthening the immune system. And in general the immune system is not one thing. You can have strong immunity against one thing and no immunity against another. So getting a vaccine for one disease does not in any way weaken or affect your immunity against another. In addition, for things like the flu even if you do skip the vaccine, get the flu, and it runs it's course, leaving you protected against that strain, you are no more protected against the next strain of flu you encounter. You can conceivably contract influenza more than once in a season, from different strains.

Thank you for your concern.

I have had the Vaccines about 6 times the past 20 years. Had what I am sure was influenza 2x.

I believe in Vaccines for disease such as Polio, Measles etc where you have the Vaccine and are pretty well done.

A Vaccine for a different strain every year? I will pass, thank you again.

Which is why we should be spending a lot more money trying to develop a better vaccine, given the death toll, misery, and economic cost.

The flu is tough to understand. First of all it is not a reportable disease. The CDC lists deaths from influenza and pneumonia as a group--pneumonia can have many other causes besides influenza. (Which reminds me, all you old fucks get your pneumococcal vaccine--supposedly life long protection although recently they developed a better vaccine and started revaccinating people). Most influenza is never confirmed by blood testing. Many flu sufferers never see a doctor. Doctors can't always tell for sure without a blood test. People's individual experience--I got the vaccine and got flu--may or may not be valid. Many people call any winter infection flu.

The symptoms of flu are fever, headache, dry cough, muscle aches, prostration (very weak, not wanting to get out of bed), light bothering the eyes. People just feel really sick. The last bad case I had was back in med school; I was in bed for 3 days, decided to try and walk to work the 4th day, made it half a block and turned around and went home.

Anyone who understands how people make decisions knows that the way to get more people vaccinated is to make the vaccine something you opt out of rather than opt into. Specifically, vaccine teams should contact people at work or school and offer the vaccine. People can refuse. For minors I would still have parents opt in but would offer the vaccine at school. As it is, most older people get vaccinated, partly because of our justified fear of the disease, partly because we are at the doctor a lot more than younger people. For working adults who have no reason to go to the doctor it is a hassle to get it, to get your kids vaccinated is a bigger hassle. Research repeatedly has shown that minor increases in convenience can make very big differences in decision making.

[neufox47]

If we keep depending on a medical intervention to shorten or prevent an issue, the body can become lazy. I agree there are people that will benefit from it but IMO it's overkill trying to get everyone to take it.

That's like saying that you are training for a race by laying on the couch and saving your energy.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/02/health...ger/index.html

[Skidog]

Once again. fuck flu shots and fuck big pharma.

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[ThreeRidges]

I got the shot (free at work) and the rest of the family did not, all got wiped to varying degrees and I was spared. Whatever is going around is pretty harsh, multiple co-workers took 3-5 weeks to kick it.

[zartagen]

Once again. fuck flu shots and fuck big pharma.

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Do you really think they make that much money on flu shots? As most people mentioned here, they get it free/cheap with insurance. I actually get money added to my HRA if I get one. If big pharma wanted to make the big money, they'd put all their eggs in the anti-viral medication basket and rake in the money for treatment.

[skaredshtles]

Do you really think they make that much money on flu shots? As most people mentioned here, they get it free/cheap with insurance. I actually get money added to my HRA if I get one. If big pharma wanted to make the big money, they'd put all their eggs in the anti-viral medication basket and rake in the money for treatment.

DO NOT ENGAGE!

I repeat:

DO NOT ENGAGE!

[Skidog]

Do you really think they make that much money on flu shots? As most people mentioned here, they get it free/cheap with insurance. I actually get money added to my HRA if I get one. If big pharma wanted to make the big money, they'd put all their eggs in the anti-viral medication basket and rake in the money for treatment.

so cause insurance pays it, its free? Cool concept...

[Danno]

DO NOT ENGAGE!

I repeat:

DO NOT ENGAGE!

seriously, if someone starts talking about the existence of chemtrails, do you try to convince them with logic and science that such things don't exist?

[Dantheman]

Vaccine sales are a rounding error in the overall pharmaceutical market. Something like 2% of gross revenue and an even lower percentage of net profits.

[MagnificentUnicorn]

Tinfoil hat wearers and big pharma haters might do some reading
https://www.skepticalraptor.com/skep...harma-profits/

[jackstraw]

Vaccine sales are a rounding error in the overall pharmaceutical market. Something like 2% of gross revenue and an even lower percentage of net profits.

2% of 466 BILLION dollars.

[MagnificentUnicorn]

2% of 466 BILLION dollars.

More like $1 trillion.

[Mr. Mike]

Last time I had the flu (25 years ago?) I had a flu shot.

as someone else pointed out, it's e temporary vaccine targeted to a specific strain. I'd rather take my chances that my immune system and common sense will protect me.

Also questionable are people who overuse hand sanitizer and lysol. Some of the sickest people I know.

I would rather take my chances that my immune system, common sense and a flu vaccine will protect me.

[jackstraw]

More like $1 trillion.

Yeah, quick google for US https://www.statista.com/topics/1719...ical-industry/

[MagnificentUnicorn]

Yeah, quick google for US https://www.statista.com/topics/1719...ical-industry/

It's a global market.

[The AD]

Seattle Times had a story with this headline last week:
"Got the flu? Here’s what to do: stay home and avoid other people"

Hear fucking hear. It really irks me when sick people show up to work. If your work provides paid sick leave then take it when you're sick. You're not some kind of hero for showing up to work sick, you're a moran.

I get the flu shot every year. Even in flu seasons where it's not particularly effective it's a lot more effective than NOT getting one.

[Dantheman]

2% of 466 BILLION dollars.

>$1 trillion globally, actually. So? That doesn't invalidate the fact that pharma corps could stop making vaccines entirely and it wouldn't even register on their bottom line.

[jackstraw]

It's a global market.

That's not what Trumps says.

[goldengatestinx]

Seattle Times had a story with this headline last week:
"Got the flu? Here’s what to do: stay home and avoid other people"

Hear fucking hear. It really irks me when sick people show up to work. If your work provides paid sick leave then take it when you're sick. You're not some kind of hero for showing up to work sick, you're a moran.

I get the flu shot every year. Even in flu seasons where it's not particularly effective it's a lot more effective than NOT getting one.

Leave and work from home. Win win for you and your employer since you'll not be flat on your back.

[old goat]

According to that synopsis of the article, it was the pig fuckers who created the Spanish flu






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I don't know about the flu but there is a relatively rare disease called Q fever--an infection of heart valves and blood vessels--that is usually found in people who are in proximity to goats, sheep, and cattle. Virtually all the case series in the literature are from France or Quebec. Draw what conclusions you will.

[zartagen]

I don't know about the flu but there is a relatively rare disease called Q fever--an infection of heart valves and blood vessels--that is usually found in people who are in proximity to goats, sheep, and cattle. Virtually all the case series in the literature are from France or Quebec. Draw what conclusions you will.

Shit, better not speak French to the animals.

[Rideski]

Tinfoil hat wearers and big pharma haters might do some reading
https://www.skepticalraptor.com/skep...harma-profits/

Wow I didn't know this was such a big deal. I have seen a few vax thread and jokes but don't have kids so never tuned in.

No tin hat or aluminum hat here, hate big pharma but never occurred to me in not wanting flu shot. But read the article anyway and in it is a link this this article which was a worthwhile read

http://www.redwineandapplesauce.com/...isconceptions/

My anecdote, had the flu shot in the early 90's and the side effects made me feel like crap and missed a day of work. Haven't had a shot since then, 24 years or so, and have had the flu once or twice. Yes it sucked. But man guaranteed side effects every year or nothing for several years. Then add last year only 20% effective this year 10% kinda seems a net loss.

But all said I guess maybe you guys convinced me. Maybe I should get on that sicky bandwagon.

[~mikey b]

Tanner Hall got the flu vaccine and he ended up dying of full blown aids.