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[Bobby Stainless]

Nope, I feel no shame pushing back against you cherry picking data and telling us we should be happy re the rate of U.S. mass murders by firearm.

Like I said, I am not surprised.

Me proving that the US is indeed a safer place, and not agreeing with the inevitable knee jerk reaction that comes from these events, is not synonymous with the celebration of 59 innocent people getting slaughtered.

But I am the immature one here.

Anyone else want to take some personal jabs at me?

I can assure you, they don't bother me. But maybe they make you fell better?

[GeezerSteve]

Anyone else want to take some personal jabs at me?

I can assure you, they don't bother me.

liar

[digitaldeath]

what fool is saying that america is more dangerous>?


everyone and their brother is gonna take jabs at somebody talking about selling a rolls royce and driving a ferrari out to lunch. that makes you an elitist and incapable of an unbiased view on any political discourse

[GeezerSteve]

what fool is saying that america is more dangerous?

The strawman erected by BeerDrinker, of course

[DBdude]

Ha, ha, ha, you guys are too much. Beer drinker is pointing out that most of you are just having a knee jerk reaction to the mass shooting. You shout him down, insult him, insult his business, tell him he has a poor grasp on facts/stats... but no one can rebut or answer his simple question. Why are murders by gun going down? You guys want to move the goalpost (mass shooting everyday- bullshit, 4 people killed is not a "mass shooting") instead of just admitting that you have such little composure but to have knee jerk reactions to your environment. Most of you are waaaaay out of touch with regular people in this country. It was proven in the months leading up to the presidential election and it's on full display in threads like this...

Carry on, though, in your insulated little corner of the web where everyone agrees with you and you can just gang up and bully anyone who disagrees

reading impaired?

it was discussed why gun deaths are down

so here you go:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.f97e5bd246de

i think the pimple on my ass knows more about stats than you do

and voting for trump is a good thing?

and to anybody that doesn't get it, america is a safer place than it was twenty years ago - crime is down, gun deaths are down. these are simple statistical facts

that does not mean that this country doesn't have a gun issue that needs to be resolved

[Bobby Stainless]

liar

What have you done today to further your cause?

I know you have responded to me a bunch, but have you done something to help those in Las Vegas?

Did you call your local or federal government? Write a letter?

You are part of this charlatan group that comes out of the word work for a few days, every shooting. Then you are silent. I give it another 5-6 days.

I am more or less keeping this thread going.

[Bobby Stainless]

everyone and their brother is gonna take jabs at somebody talking about selling a rolls royce and driving a ferrari out to lunch. that makes you an elitist and incapable of an unbiased view on any political discourse

Flying Spur is a Bentley dog. Get your car game tight.

I sell expensive cars, what the fuck? Now I can't have an opinion?

Whose the boot licker now? Fascist much?

[digitaldeath]

Flying Spur is a Bentley dog. Get your car game tight.

I sell expensive cars, what the fuck? Now I can't have an opinion?

Whose the boot licker now? Fascist much?

never once have i coveted a bentley

they are weak af


i said you are incapable of unbiased political discourse

which appears accurate

[GeezerSteve]

I am more or less keeping this thread going.

Doing your part as a concerned public citizen?

[Bobby Stainless]

Fkna I am biased.

I don't think the majority of you care enough, to do much more than go back and forth with me on TGR.

That might be the most pathetic thing yet.

Doing your part, right?

Are you doing yours?

You talk a good game.

[GeezerSteve]

for a guy who claims to not be bothered by personal jabs you sure seem to be bothered by personal jabs

[digitaldeath]

Fkna I am biased.

I don't think the majority of you care enough, to do much more than go back and forth with me on TGR.

That might be the most pathetic thing yet.



Are you doing yours?

You talk a good game.

back and forth about what?!?! god damn

the shooter had a fantasy that he acted on / he wanted to be the T800 in T2

pretty simple stuff here

[PNWbrit]

Like I said, I am not surprised.

Me proving that the US is indeed a safer place, and not agreeing with the inevitable knee jerk reaction that comes from these events, is not synonymous with the celebration of 59 innocent people getting slaughtered.

But I am the immature one here.

Anyone else want to take some personal jabs at me?

I can assure you, they don't bother me. But maybe they make you fell better?

Ok.

I think you're a wanker.

Thanks.

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[Bobby Stainless]

Ok.

I think you're a wanker.

Thanks.

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You said awhile ago that you had me on ignore...

Glad the discussion is about me. That's helpful.

for a guy who claims to not be bothered by personal jabs you sure seem to be bothered by personal jabs

Last word.

[PNWbrit]

I did?

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[Bobby Stainless]

Maybe not. I'm sure a lot of members have said that.

[PNWbrit]

Sounds like good idea actually.



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[Bobby Stainless]

Sounds like good idea actually.



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[basinbeater]

Well, this thread devolved. Stopped being productive a while ago. Beer drinker, thanks for being the punching bag. Even though I disagree with you. The conversation must continue. But maybe we all need a break.

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[digitaldeath]

Well, this thread devolved. Stopped being productive a while ago. Beer drinker, thanks for being the punching bag. Even though I disagree with you. The conversation must continue. But maybe we all need a break.

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take a break with this


https://twitter.com/Just_JayyTee/sta...80927781535744

[Bobby Stainless]

stoner

You are always welcome to take personal dabs with me.

take a break with this


https://twitter.com/Just_JayyTee/sta...80927781535744

[Mofro261]

http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/2016/07/Violent-Crime-Rate-Chart1.png[/IMG]

I just want an explanation, of why this has happened.[/QUOTE]


you stated your main argument is that violent crime decreased while gun ownership increased. Notice that your supposition is not that "violent crime involving firearms decreased," it is overall violent crime.

https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/fv9311.pdf

In 2011, a total of 478,400 fatal and nonfatal violent crimes were committed with a firearm (table 1). Homicides made up about 2% of all firearm-related crimes. There were 11,101 firearm homicides in 2011, down by 39% from a high of 18,253 in 1993 (figure 1). The majority of the decline in firearm-related homicides occurred between 1993 and 1998. Since 1999, the number of firearm homicides increased from 10,828 to 12,791 in 2006 before declining to 11,101 in 2011. Nonfatal firearm-related violent victimizations against persons age 12 or older declined 70%, from 1.5 million in 1993 to 456,500 in 2004 (figure 2). The number then fluctuated between about 400,000 to 600,000 through 2011.1 While the number of firearm crimes declined over time, the percentage of all violence that involved a firearm did not change substantively, fluctuating between 6% and 9% over the same period. In 1993, 9% of all violence was committed with a firearm, compared to 8% in 2011

Secondly, pay close attention to the data you posted- and note that in the period between 1993-98 when the largest decrease in violent crime occurred, guns sales were stagnant. The was virtually no uptick in gun sales until after 2004. But using gun sales as a proxy for increased gun owners is akin to using alcohol/weed/cigarette sales to proxy user ship in the general population; in each case it's the heavy user who is the money customer being catered to. The number of guns per 100 people continues upward but the number of those 100 people having guns in their possession has been trending downward across the same period. Hightened paranoia rarely induces people who do not already own guns to go out and buy them, but sure causes people who already own them to get more.


The assault weapons ban was enacted in 1994. Congress let the ban expire in 2004. Despite the overall downward trend in violence as shown by your graph, violence involving a gun to commit homicide, as a percentage of all homicides, was at it's highest point ever last year (2016- 73% of all homicides by gun).
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...its-1980-peak/

[IMG]https://espnfivethirtyeight.files.wordpress.com/2017/09/asher-ucr-2016-0922-2.png?w=575

[wyeaster]

pretty sure 4 or more killed is the definition of mass killing commonly used

[Conundrum]

If beer drinker wants to keep this thread going, I'd be happy to see more pics of his wife's ass. It seems to be an attractive ass judging by the avatar. No disrespect of course. More like props to beer drinker.

[garyfromterrace]

OK Jesus Christ i have to step in and educate your ass. Mass shootings are inherently a statistically noisy phenomenon....



So when you make an incredibly stupid and statistically meaningless comparison like that your credibility drops to zero. Like a retarded republican congressman walking in with a snowball saying ‘it was cold today, climate change is a hoax!1!!’

Ok now we can return to the conversation. We will just politely ignore your stupid post.

Hey beer drinker, yep things are certainly looking better. You betcha. Here's something that is a fact:

A fucking wack job up (Canada) here wants to hurt some innocent folks. He rents a vehicle, rams a cop, and stabs him. Keeps driving and hits 4 innocent people. This sucks - 5 injured, none killed.

A fucking wack job down there......