Las Vegas shooting thread moved to polyass

[jgb@etree]

Anyone reading about "bump stocks" being approved in 2010?

I don't want to post something that isn't true.

https://www.slidefire.com/downloads/BATFE.pdf

[hatchgreenchile]

Then don't leave it that way.

I’d jot down more details and discussion if not on mobile TGR out of country, but would say that if a “Guns 101” thread existed , that would help the conversation immensely. Get everyone on same page .

[Buster Highmen]

I’d jot down more details and discussion if not on mobile TGR out of country, but would say that if a “Guns 101” thread existed , that would help the conversation immensely.

Maybe.

Get everyone on same page .

Whatever you're on, can I have some?

[::: :::]

Saw this comment on the NYT for an article discussing what’s next with gun laws

[Bobby Stainless]

So in your world it's all good ?
Again you want to focus on mass shootings rather than all shootings and the presumed relationship between the availability of guns and gun deaths (and injuries). It strikes me that limiting the scope of the conversation is an approach to limiting the potential solutions that can be investigated. At least you seem to be intellectually honest (but statistically stunted) in that you don't think there are solutions.

The thread is titled Las Vegas Shooting, it wasn't some random post about gun law reform.

I don't think there is a solution to the majority of gun deaths. It's very clear who the majority of the people are that kill themselves in gunfights.

If we can save the mass shooting deaths, by taking away the tools of destruction, then so be it.

I sit from a position, that nothing will be done. I've seen it play out that way over and over.

If you want to call me complacent, then I would like to see your contribution to change, other than words in a ski forum.

[Game Over]

Heard a interesting stat that I'm going to check on now-

Guns in 80% of mass shootings are legally purchased

Less than 3% of guns in all other gun crime are legally purchased.

Edit first checks->https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/sa...egally-n474441

Second is rated half true. While it may not be exact it's on the ballpark

http://www.politifact.com/punditfact...crimes-commit/

[Bobby Stainless]

But the weapons are the common denominator.
Mass killings in the United States are most often carried out with guns, usually handguns, most of them obtained legally.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graph...gs-in-america/

[jgb@etree]

Another failed progressive politician on TGR? You should go hook up with JamesPio in Idaho and #resist!

[frorider]

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/1...-ranges-243495

. “Because it’s notoriously inaccurate, it’s really not a threat to anybody except in one and only one circumstance, and that’s when you’re on the thirty-second floor of a building shooting into a mass of people,” Valone said.

Slide Fire has has stopped taking orders, according to a notice on its website. The Moran, Texas, manufacturer did not immediately respond to a phone call.

[Harry]

Only BeerDrinker would find cause to celebrate a massacre of 58 innocent people. Pathetic

What do you expect from the biggest trustfunder on TGR ?

[Bobby Stainless]

Only BeerDrinker would find cause to celebrate a massacre of 58 innocent people. Pathetic

That's a strange way to twist it, but that shows your maturity level.

Less people have died this year, in mass shootings, than last year. That's a good thing.

What do you expect from the biggest trustfunder on TGR ?

This is where people start attacking me personally.

I figured this would happen soon.

[MultiVerse]

I guess what I need to do is get the average per month and apply it to 9 months.

We were at 293 this time in 2016, and 215 before this last shooting.

Less people have died this year, in mass shootings, than last year. That's a good thing.

This is, once again, weird. So if we use your average per month in 2016 (293/9) we end up with an average of about 33 dead a month for the first nine months of 2016, right? But we just saw 58 dead in October and the month isn't even over yet. Isn't that worse? Isn't that a bad thing?

[Bobby Stainless]

Well one is an average, and one is the worst mass shooting in history.

Do you consider that apples to apples?

383 last year, 274 this year (with 3 months to go). I hope there is not another one, but that is where we are at currently.

[MultiVerse]

Well one is an average, and one is the worst mass shooting in history.

Do you consider that apples to apples?

I don't know? Is the last worst mass shooting in history (before this one) an apple or an orange? Is this the last worst mass shooting in history or will there be more worse mass shooting in history? It kinda seems like it's easy to cherry pick dates between worst mass shootings in history?

[Bobby Stainless]

It kinda seems like it's easy to cherry pick dates between worst mass shootings in history?

I'm comparing last years total, to the amount we have so far this year.

I'm not sure how many other ways I can say that.

[MultiVerse]

I'm comparing last years total, to the amount we have so far this year.

I'm not sure how many other ways I can say that.

I'm just trying to understand your rules for how this is a good thing. So you're saying that mass shootings are like a baseball season with an annual calendar and that we should ignore streaks or spikes and average everything out? But don't use monthly averages, either?

[GeezerSteve]

[frorider]

I'm comparing last years total, to the amount we have so far this year.

I'm not sure how many other ways I can say that.

So despite my post on pg 10 you’re going to keep fucking that chicken?

C’mon man, you’re smarter than this.

What’s next—you’re going to use monthly data and announce a 900% ‘increase’?

[muted]

......that shows your maturity level. .

Your avatar is a close-up of girls ass with pot leaves on it.

[summit]

Careful with creative statistics that lower the threshold of "mass shooting" to get huge numbers. Changing the definition to get that many mass shootings includes mostly gang related shootings. Also, if you do, you also can no longer claim that mass shooters are mostly white, which seems important to the media. This is possibly relevant due to the racial/socioeconomic disparity in shootings and conflicting narratives on whether the problem is crime/poverty linked vs acts of bigoted terrorists.

If you go to FBI definitions, there were just over 90 mass shooting is 25 years, and most of the shooters are white... but 90 mass shootings in 25 years isn't as strong of an emotional argument for gun control.

Are mass shootings extra horrible because they involve bolt from the blue massacres of innocents by blood thirsty psychopaths and racist/bigtoted terrorists?

Or do they deserve special attention because they are frequent and mostly involving gangs and drugs?

[WTF is dat]

http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/2016/07/Violent-Crime-Rate-Chart1.png[/IMG]

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It’s called a spurious correlation.

Numerous other people have already explained this to you but you are either too simple minded or have the NRA cock down your throat so deep that you can’t understand that there are numerous factors that would contribute to a decline in mass shootings.

[Bobby Stainless]

I look forward to hearing about the steps taken, by those who are name calling and such, to help the situation.

Posting here doesn't cut it unfortunately.

Sorry.

[Bobby Stainless]

Your avatar is a close-up of girls ass with pot leaves on it.

Good one bro.

So you think I celebrated the death of 59 people?

Who else thinks I am looking for a reason to celebrate the death of 59 people? I guess that's the discussion now...

DIY Steve...

[digitaldeath]

you have an odd obsession with violent acts

i couldnt even tell you what the point you're trying to make exactly is


either you lick boots or you dont


which is it

[digitaldeath]

wait

its already been established that your a troop supporting bootlicker with no balls to front packs