Wagon Stoke

[4matic]

Apparently Volvo has arrived at the point of no dip sticks. It requires Volvo factory oil and break pads. My S40 cost $1000 for an alternator.

You can buy a dipstick. My MB's don't have them. I don't need them with on board checking.

I'm certain they have approved motor oils other than branded. Transmission and coolant might be factory recommended. I always use factory fluids for those.

[ski-wpk]

Heated seats? Aux in? Leather or that other canvas fabric?

Yes yes and black leather. Aftermarket tinting on windows. I live in CO but bought it in upstate NY in 2011, long drive home. Hard to find vehicle at the time, before the V60 was released.

[frorider]

Labcabin, I'm strongly liking my Alltrack 6 spd manual. It's all about the 199 ft lb torque, and 3400 lbs vs fatass other choices. The torque band is so damn wide, outstanding for road trips, and also means no hesitation when passing. i thought I might do the easy bump to 235 hp but I'm really not feeling like I need it.

Seats are a personal thing. For me (tall w/ narrowish hips) the S seats are outstanding. 9 hr drives no problem.

S model was only way I could avoid a sunroof. Hate those things.

[klauss]

the volvo xc70 wagon was the only one that had enough storage behind the second row for us. The allroad and 3 series had very little room for gear in the back. sedan like. The outback has maybe more room, but the volvo drove much better IMO and was way quicker

[BmillsSkier]

It's pretty impressive how much space is in the back of the XC70. 300hp ain't too bad either.

[basinbeater]

This is a nice lookin wagon right here... v8 (285hp), mtech package, classic silver on black... I like.
link to ad (no affiliation, just saw it...)

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...t&CMP=stempest

[The Tortoise]

Weird thing is 4 motion in the sport wagon can only be had in the S not the SEL. So no power seats and nice trim. So it has to be the Alltrack for both.

Forgot about that. In Canada the 4-Motion is available on all models.

I guess they do that to force buyers into the Alltrak.

[GBB]

Lots of later model XC70 love going on in here. Anyone have experience with the end of the P2 series run? Think 2006 / 2007 once they updated the Haldex.

[Buster Highmen]

06 V70R here, 112k on the odo.

ABS just went out, not needed for those snow experienced.

Nice car on the freeway, turns like a battleship in the parking lot, not as good in turns as an audi avant.

[Art Shirk]

Frankfurt motor show had a few wagons to drool over. The rs4 was in fine form and Kia put something crazy out:

[natty dread]

wagon..kinda. 2015 with 25K, got yesterday.

[I've seen black diamonds!]

Lots of later model XC70 love going on in here. Anyone have experience with the end of the P2 series run? Think 2006 / 2007 once they updated the Haldex.

I have a 2007 XC70 with 97k. Bought it from in-laws 20K ago. Had to replace the tailgate struts. Occasionally I have a traction control warning light come one with no actual symptoms. Always goes off if I restart the car. Otherwise routine maintenance only. Front shocks are staring to leak, but no symptoms yet. I think older versions had common transmission issues. '06 and '07's seem to be better from what I hear. Timing belt job is pretty expensive, so take that into account if buying one.

As far as driving it goes, it is big and heavy and doesn't like tight corners. But on mountain passes without switchbacks it does well. The engine pulls well at altitude. Going downhill it will switch and stick with whatever gear you tell it to.

Best thing is that it isn't rattly, squeaky and slow like and old Outback. And the seats are great. When shit starts breaking, it won't be as cheap though.

[plugboots]

Those tailgate struts go on all wagons eventually, (cheap replacement). Buddy had the exact same thing on the traction control and it turns out he needed to keep the fluid level topped off

[GBB]

ISBD & Buster - that's exactly the type of anecdotal information I was looking for. Thank you.

They're intriguing rigs and it's encouraging to see a decent amount of high mileage (>180K) examples out on the road. Shit isn't cheap on an old Outback either. Maybe slightly cheaper comparatively, but definitely not cheap.

[PNWbrit]

Buddy had the exact same thing on the traction control and it turns out he needed to keep the fluid level topped off

Leaking traction control fluid.

That sounds expensive.

[plugboots]

Prolly. I had the same thing with the oil pan gasket on my A4 wagon. They wanted $500? as I recall? Nice mechanic says, "$500 buys a lot of oil"

[Labcabin]

http://volvocarqe.com/2018-volvo-v60...se-date-price/

Why is the next thing always better? SMH

Thor headlights and all!




Can I get some new shorts over here!

[Bronco]

Where do I put my Grande PSL?

[Labcabin]

Where do I put my Grande PSL?

There is a hose that comes out from the visor. Makes it fresh!

[TNKen]

If it counts, wife unit has a new Yukon Denali. Has the 6.2L engine with 420 hp. Runs pretty stout.

[MontuckyFried]

If it counts, wife unit has a new Yukon Denali. Has the 6.2L engine with 420 hp. Runs pretty stout.

Umm, no. That definitely does not count. Giant ass suv =/= wagon.

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[Bruce Springskiin]

Picked up Car and Driver, or something of the sorts and came across this car

https://goo.gl/images/orjCit

A Buick Wagon?!?!???????

After checking to make sure it was not some weird alternate reality dream I kept reading. So it is from the euro Opel Insignia wagon. An interesting option for our US market.
But not our diesel holy grail... however I am starting to lean away from the allure of diesels, learning that their efficiency and power is limited by pollution. Al la, VW scandal, gen 4 equipment motors, and new p/u compared to old ones. My gut is the industry headed towards electric and gas electric options.

This leads me to my current bit of research. I am renting a Ford Focus in Italy for the next 10 days. It is a 6speed manual, diesel. So short of being AWD, it is close to our holy grail car right? What I am curious to learn is the diesel really that enjoyable to live with??? Trip reporting will continue

[shroom]

it's a hatchback, rather than a wagon?

[The Tortoise]

A small hatch at that.

Diesels don't make sense for most people. They need mostly highway miles to get the best fuel economy and longevity.

But the emmisions systems are really complicated and known to fail.

Note, if you buy a fixed TDI you get an 11 year/165k mile warranty that covers all the emissions crap.

[Art Shirk]

Picked up Car and Driver, or something of the sorts and came across this car

https://goo.gl/images/orjCit

A Buick Wagon?!?!???????

After checking to make sure it was not some weird alternate reality dream I kept reading. So it is from the euro Opel Insignia wagon. An interesting option for our US market.
But not our diesel holy grail... however I am starting to lean away from the allure of diesels, learning that their efficiency and power is limited by pollution. Al la, VW scandal, gen 4 equipment motors, and new p/u compared to old ones. My gut is the industry headed towards electric and gas electric options.

This leads me to my current bit of research. I am renting a Ford Focus in Italy for the next 10 days. It is a 6speed manual, diesel. So short of being AWD, it is close to our holy grail car right? What I am curious to learn is the diesel really that enjoyable to live with??? Trip reporting will continue

There is only one Buick wagon worth discussing. Nearly 5000 lbs of fuck yes.