WEED, The Official Thread

[guroo270]

Damn beer drinker... what strain is that? Looks like my favorite bud from high school. I'd always look for shit like that.

[Bobby Stainless]

Gorilla Glue #4, from Josey Wales

[Bromontana]

Gorilla Glue #4, from Josey Wales

That was my first guess. Helluva strain.

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Heard it's used for patenting strains. Met a kid who said his mom spent 15 years perfecting either god bud or god's gift, patented it and now gets a cut of every god seed sold and is doing well by it.

Are you cool with that? She is nothing but a Monsanto of the weed world.

[glademaster]

Are you cool with that? She is nothing but a Monsanto of the weed world.

Well said. That bitch deserves an 8 pound maul to the twat and a garrote. Same for the Monsanto fucks.

[Bromontana]

Well said. That bitch deserves an 8 pound maul to the twat and a garrote. Same for the Monsanto fucks.

Ho lee sheet, too angry for a youngin!

Stop by for some gorilla glue dabbage asap.

Monsanto sucks balls, same with the walmart of weed types. But, I'm a fan of people investing time to build cool genetics, then share for reasonable cost (or free if that's their preference).

[digitaldeath]

i got some gorilla glue

way moer than 80$

[NoPostholio]

Ho lee sheet, too angry for a youngin!

Stop by for some gorilla glue dabbage asap.

Monsanto sucks balls, same with the walmart of weed types. But, I'm a fan of people investing time to build cool genetics, then share for reasonable cost (or free if that's their preference).

The dude from Amsterdam is almost a billionaire doing just this. The market could have never met the demand of the last 5 years w/o the people selling seeds of hybrids they created.
Monsanto's whole gig is making corn/soy beans/etc with built in pesticides?

[Bromontana]

Pretty much, pesticide resistant genetics

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A plant patent opens the door for farmers to get sued.

FWIW Any plant is resistant to any numbers pesticides. Monsanto (and others) develop crops that are resistant to newer cleaner/safer/cheaper pesticides.

Take corn- since the 50's atrazine was the go-to herbicide. It has now been replaced with glyphosate.

[Bromontana]

How many farmers have been sued? Effective vs. theoretical impact.

[NoPostholio]

This is good news and can only get better when they are delivering pizza and weed together.

http://www.weednews.co/portland-vote...very-services/

And this could take a little of the sting off politics -

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...b014e7c72eda15

John Ehrlichman, a top aide to Richard Nixon (who was president when the drug schedules were created), even admitted this, in a remarkably candid statement:

"You want to know what this was really all about? The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I’m saying? We knew we couldn’t make it illegal to be either against the war or black people, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders, raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."

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Are you cool with that? She is nothing but a Monsanto of the weed world.

The biz for patenting has been increasing hand over fist for a while now. Whether I approve or disapprove is moot. Here's a two year old article on it:

Marijuana Patent Applications Face Tough Road At USPTO

By Ryan Davis
Law360, New York (January 8, 2015, 2:08 PM EST) -- The U.S. Patent and Trademark Office has started receiving applications for patents on new types of marijuana plants, and attorneys say that the federal government's classification of the drug as illegal could make obtaining a patent difficult, though nothing in the law expressly bars patent protection for illegal substances.

The patent applications follow recent decisions by voters in Colorado and Washington to legalize the recreational use of marijuana. That appears to have emboldened marijuana entrepreneurs in those states and elsewhere to seek patent protection on strains...

There are so many things happening. What's Monsanto going to do? Create an unclonable strain gmo morphed with ayahuasca and part of a round-up molecule? Like NoPostholio says, where are seeds from all over the world going to come from to continue hybridizing if someone isn't making money to get them to those in need?

Having plant DNA available certainly does make it possible to sue for patent infringement. The minute you hybrid a plant with something else, it's something else, so I imagine it won't be too hard to circumvent some of the the patent protection.

In the meantime, please breathe deep.

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The biz for patenting has been increasing hand over fist for a while now. Whether I approve or disapprove is moot. Here's a two year old article on it:

Marijuana Patent Applications Face Tough Road At USPTO

By Ryan Davis
Law360, New York (January 8, 2015, 2:08 PM EST) -- The U.S. Patent and Trademark Office has started receiving applications for patents on new types of marijuana plants, and attorneys say that the federal government's classification of the drug as illegal could make obtaining a patent difficult, though nothing in the law expressly bars patent protection for illegal substances.

The patent applications follow recent decisions by voters in Colorado and Washington to legalize the recreational use of marijuana. That appears to have emboldened marijuana entrepreneurs in those states and elsewhere to seek patent protection on strains...

There are so many things happening. What's Monsanto going to do? Create an unclonable strain gmo morphed with ayahuasca and part of a round-up molecule? Like NoPostholio says, where are seeds from all over the world going to come from to continue hybridizing if someone isn't making money to get them to those in need?

Having plant DNA available certainly does make it possible to sue for patent infringement. The minute you hybrid a plant with something else, it's something else, so I imagine it won't be too hard to circumvent some of the the patent protection.

In the meantime, please breathe deep.

Heh you are preaching to the choir. I only ask because I've seen you post anti-Monsanto shit before. A shoe on both feet type thing. Obviously you feel differently about weed than corn or soy (judging on past posts)

I'm all for plant patents of all types -> with some kinda incentive for the breeders there would not be much in the way of progress in any crop (other than gov funded)

Here is another question (only because you still sound a little freaked out about GMOs -> what happens when CRISPR gets used in weed? It's genetically engineered but without foreign DNA-> Still support it?

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How many farmers have been sued? Effective vs. theoretical impact.

Zero

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I'm against Monsanto. I'm all for organic seed banks. I don't know much about crspr except it's a genome manipulator. Correct me if I'm wrong. Even with Lego's endorsement of gmo's (I know how smart he is), I can't get behind Monsanto or their patent infringement suits against small farmers onto whose land blew genetically modified wheat pollen and their farms were lost in the process of defending themselves or losing to rulings made for Monsanto in corrupt rural legal venues.

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^can you name one case where Monsanto sued a farmer? I am unaware of any.

Also a big part of Monsanto's business is organic seeds

https://www.wired.com/2014/01/new-mo...?client=safari

[Skidog]

^can you name one case where Monsanto sued a farmer? I am unaware of any.

Also a big part of Monsanto's business is organic seeds

https://www.wired.com/2014/01/new-mo...?client=safari

If it's big and makes money it has to be corrupt. Don't you know that? [emoji83]

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^can you name one case where Monsanto sued a farmer? I am unaware of any.

Also a big part of Monsanto's business is organic seeds

https://www.wired.com/2014/01/new-mo...?client=safari

Since 1997, we have only filed suit against farmers 147 times in the United States. This may sound like a lot, but when you consider that we sell seed to more than 325,000 American farmers a year, it’s really a small number. Of these, we’ve proceeded through trial with only nine farmers. All nine cases were found in Monsanto’s favor.

http://www.monsanto.com/newsviews/pa...-lawsuits.aspx

With a supreme court ruling that any crop containing more that 1% patented gmo constitutes patent infringement, I guess hybridizing pot won't keep their lawyers at bay once Monsanto unleashes their new pot strains. So any small peeps who are patenting pot are probably doing so to protect themselves from Monsanto patenting the god bud or girl scout cookies or whatever strains they spent the last 15 years perfecting. Based on the movie “David vs Monsanto” you could believe that Monsanto plants evidence and works with testing companies to ensure that you your testing is >1 percent. You could also believe that the 700 court cases that were settled out of court were against farmers who were inadvertently contaminated, but just didn’t have the money to fight Monsanto in court. You could also believe that all the court cases had judges and witnesses who were paid off by Monsanto. But in the end, you can believe none of any of that ever happened and that Monsanto is here to save the world.

But let's not contaminate the seeds of the weed thread with this minutiae, steeps, lest it gets off track with comments from those who comment for comment's sake.

[NoPostholio]

https://cannabiz.media/2016/12/15/10...arijuana-laws/

10 Weirdest Marijuana Laws

6. Nevada’s Aversion to Font Variety
Nevada’s signage rules limit dispensary signs to using just two fonts at the most. The state prefers sans-serif fonts. While serif fonts might be okay, script, decorative, and gimmicky fonts are not okay—ever.

[Game Over]

Since 1997, we have only filed suit against farmers 147 times in the United States. This may sound like a lot, but when you consider that we sell seed to more than 325,000 American farmers a year, it’s really a small number. Of these, we’ve proceeded through trial with only nine farmers. All nine cases were found in Monsanto’s favor.

http://www.monsanto.com/newsviews/pa...-lawsuits.aspx

With a supreme court ruling that any crop containing more that 1% patented gmo constitutes patent infringement, I guess hybridizing pot won't keep their lawyers at bay once Monsanto unleashes their new pot strains. So any small peeps who are patenting pot are probably doing so to protect themselves from Monsanto patenting the god bud or girl scout cookies or whatever strains they spent the last 15 years perfecting. Based on the movie “David vs Monsanto” you could believe that Monsanto plants evidence and works with testing companies to ensure that you your testing is >1 percent. You could also believe that the 700 court cases that were settled out of court were against farmers who were inadvertently contaminated, but just didn’t have the money to fight Monsanto in court. You could also believe that all the court cases had judges and witnesses who were paid off by Monsanto. But in the end, you can believe none of any of that ever happened and that Monsanto is here to save the world.

But let's not contaminate the seeds of the weed thread with this minutiae, steeps, lest it gets off track with comments from those who comment for comment's sake.

Sorry I guess I should have specified. You specifically said pollen drift-> your examples were seed savers. That's quite different.

I can't get behind Monsanto or their patent infringement suits against small farmers onto whose land blew genetically modified wheat pollen and their farms were lost in the process of defending themselves or losing to rulings made for Monsanto in corrupt rural legal venues.

Pollen drift is quite different from saving deliberately saving seeds. Also there is no GMO wheat on the market.

But still I get it -> MONSATAN!!

Who are you gonna march again after the Bayer deal goes thru?

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I guess it's too much for you to agree to disagree, do substantiating research for yourself, or start another thread to accommodate the drift because you want to argue.
http://www.ecowatch.com/monsantos-un...954609745.html
So please, feel free to try to question-bait me into that next argument in another thread.

[NoPostholio]

So much for the protecting the children argument -

"Teen marijuana use fell sharply in Colorado in the years 2014 and 2015, after the opening of that state's recreational marijuana market, new federal survey data show."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.0f1c86c519c1

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I guess it's too much for you to agree to disagree, do substantiating research for yourself, or start another thread to accommodate the drift because you want continue to argue.
http://www.ecowatch.com/monsantos-un...954609745.html
So please, feel free to try to question-bait me into that next argument in another thread.

I'm not trying to bait you-- it just seems you have trouble with details and because of that you make false statements.

There is no GMO wheat ON THE MARKET. That was trial wheat that got stolen by activists 10 years ago and spread in attempt to sabotage.

But hey keep taking things out of context to fit your world view.

[happytimefunbox]

Smoke some herbs an chill yall...