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**4matic** · 04-26-2016, 01:18 PM

Originally Posted by wyeaster

i have no doubts about the kind of person mtngirl is..

Birds of a feather

**My Pet Powder Goat** · 04-26-2016, 01:20 PM

Don't know why people have to be such dicks... Maybe you're in a similar place that he use to be? Anyways, I believe in new beginnings and second chances, and I'm sure many of you have been afforded that in the past. He's not being a negative asshole, and he recognizes how toxic he was, and has made amends, so what's your beef? just let him get on.

**wyeaster** · 04-26-2016, 01:22 PM

well 4matic, i appreciated you pitching in the advice about the golf bag. i took it as a laying down of arms considering some of our interactions in the past, particularly the club sale that didn't happen because you were so offended at my insecurity. it doesn't change the fact that you are basically an ideogical enemy and i remember very clearly several perspectives i consider atrocious and inhumane. so say and think what you want. i was trying to be nice. i see that was beyond you and that's fine, i pay you even less mind now.

**Danno** · 04-26-2016, 01:25 PM

Originally Posted by My Pet Powder Goat

Don't know why people have to be such dicks... Maybe you're in a similar place that he use to be? Anyways, I believe in new beginnings and second chances, and I'm sure many of you have been afforded that in the past. He's not being a negative asshole, and he recognizes how toxic he was, and has made amends, so what's your beef? just let him get on.

This forum is like a pit bull, nobody is allowed to change or atone, nobody is allowed to make innocuous comments if previous comments haven't been innocuous, everything is fair game ALL THE TIME, and then you get to blame it all on the other person because they started it 8 years ago,

**My Pet Powder Goat** · 04-26-2016, 01:29 PM

Oh ya, that's right....my bad!

Fuck you spook, you insufferable twat! ;-)

**raisingarizona13** · 04-26-2016, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by 4matic

Birds of a feather

Shit feathers Randy

**iceman** · 04-26-2016, 01:36 PM

I really don't think that's true Danno. we've definitely had people change over time and redefine themselves in relation to the forum. More often they just go away and that's fine too. Some I wish would come back but not all. I have no issue with wyeaster attempting to move on from how he was before, I'm in favor of it and am prepared to take it and him at face value until or unless I'm proven wrong.

Mtngirl on the other hand just keeps grinding away even though people have tried to be encouraging and supportive (I haven't, I wish she'd just shut the fuck up), so she's gonna keep getting it as long as she keeps putting it out there.

**wyeaster** · 04-26-2016, 01:45 PM

Originally Posted by iceman

I really don't think that's true Danno. we've definitely had people change over time and redefine themselves in relation to the forum. More often they just go away and that's fine too. Some I wish would come back but not all. I have no issue with wyeaster attempting to move on from how he was before, I'm in favor of it and am prepared to take it and him at face value until or unless I'm proven wrong.

Mtngirl on the other hand just keeps grinding away even though people have tried to be encouraging and supportive (I haven't, I wish she'd just shut the fuck up), so she's gonna keep getting it as long as she keeps putting it out there.

honestly, i was toxic but i wasn't the only asshole here and considering the views that are important to me are generally severely underrepresented and unrespected here it was bound to be full of conflict. i'm saying that because while i was toxic, there wasn't anything about me that shouldn't have been taken at face value since i did not discuss my personal life nearly as much. i was consistent in my views and the views i argued about are the same. i am done arguing. i've apologized in person to a lot of people for being an asshole. not because i need friends or i thought they were right but because i was an asshole and i'm sorry. i've gotten plenty of support in private from people who were not assholes to me but i haven't heard from anybody was a blatant asshole to me. i'm not saying anybody owes me an apology. i'm just saying that people can pile on me if they want, though that it's odd considering most of you know the amount of death and destruction that was heaped on me at a young age and the horrible struggles to try to overcome something that at that time didn't really exist yet and is still highly stigmatized. i'm not saying i deserve a pass, but may be a little context-based understanding. i don't understand why regardless of my behavior before, which was really me trying to not give up on humanity and myself, would lead to continued beatings now. if you think i'm an asshole still, knowing what you know which still isn't everything but enough to make a somewhat informed decision if you also listen to what i say and how i say it, then fine. but i'm not trying to be an asshole to anybody here -- not even my stalker or mtngirl -- so why keep telling me.

that says more about you guys than it does about me and if you can't recognize the gravity of my situation like i try to recognize the gravity in some of yours -- whether you are overt about it or not -- then why bother. i'm inconsequential to all of you.

**stfu&gbtw** · 04-26-2016, 01:49 PM

Originally Posted by PedoHerp69

honestly, i was toxic but i wasn't the only asshole here and considering the views that are important to me are generally severely underrepresented and unrespected here it was bound to be full of conflict. i'm saying that because while i was toxic, there wasn't anything about me that shouldn't have been taken at face value since i did not discuss my personal life nearly as much. i was consistent in my views and the views i argued about are the same. i am done arguing. i've apologized in person to a lot of people for being an asshole. not because i need friends or i thought they were right but because i was an asshole and i'm sorry. i've gotten plenty of support in private from people who were not assholes to me but i haven't heard from anybody was a blatant asshole to me. i'm not saying anybody owes me an apology. i'm just saying that people can pile on me if they want, though that it's odd considering most of you know the amount of death and destruction that was heaped on me at a young age and the horrible struggles to try to overcome something that at that time didn't really exist yet and is still highly stigmatized. i'm not saying i deserve a pass, but may be a little context-based understanding. i don't understand why regardless of my behavior before, which was really me trying to not give up on humanity and myself, would lead to continued beatings now. if you think i'm an asshole still, knowing what you know which still isn't everything but enough to make a somewhat informed decision if you also listen to what i say and how i say it, then fine. but i'm not trying to be an asshole to anybody here -- not even my stalker or mtngirl -- so why keep telling me.

that says more about you guys than it does about me and if you can't recognize the gravity of my situation like i try to recognize the gravity in some of yours -- whether you are overt about it or not -- then why bother. i'm inconsequential to all of you.

So easy...

**Buster Highmen** · 04-26-2016, 01:52 PM

Being an asshole is like a seasoning. Some people just don't get that it should be used judiciously or simply have no other spice in life.

**wyeaster** · 04-26-2016, 01:54 PM

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**Buster Highmen** · 04-26-2016, 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by wyeaster

yes and it means you're an asshole.

OK, yes, sometimes I am and sometimes I'm not. It's not obvious depending on what the recipient is experiencing that day.

furthermore, if any of you -- including our stalker -- want to fuck with my wife and i in real life now that names and places are known thanks to mtngirl, please reconsider. i can take it but she's having a hard time and of course there's a 4 year old involved.

In case I need to be explicit: the remark #747 above is not directed at you, spook/wyeaster. I hope things get better for you.

**RootSkier** · 04-26-2016, 01:58 PM

What the actual fuck is going on in here. Jesus fucking christ.

And just because: Twins, you ain't got no contract with the catholic church, because a contract means there is some mutual obligation. The catholic church has zero obligations to you. More, you don't have a contract with California, either. You have a contract with each other that is governed by the law of whatever state in which you reside.

**stfu&gbtw** · 04-26-2016, 02:03 PM

Originally Posted by wyeaster

names and places are known thanks to mtngirl

Seriously? Pedoherp is whining about keeping her personal info private in one thread, and doxing other maggots in another, resulting in people's wives and children being stalked?

Spook - did this happen the way I would imagine it happened? Because even around here, that's crossing the fucking line... and there will be consequences.

**wyeaster** · 04-26-2016, 02:05 PM

Originally Posted by Buster Highmen

OK, yes, sometimes I am and sometimes I'm not. It's not obvious depending on what the recipient is experiencing that day.

In case I need to be explicit: the remark #747 above is not directed at you, spook/wyeaster. I hope things get better for you.

i wasn't responding to you buster.

**DBdude** · 04-26-2016, 02:09 PM

can we just ban mtngirl and get it over with. the never ending bitterness and absolutely no empathy for anybody or any situation unless they are a woman who has been fucked over is nauseating

**Danno** · 04-26-2016, 02:09 PM

wyeaster, you assume way too much. I'm a fairly regular fellow around these parts, yet all I know is that wyeaster=spook. That's it. You keep making references to all sorts of things that you seem to think everyone here knows, including your name, your history, etc, heck you even said mtgirl outed you except all I see is a link that you posted after she made some comment about a basement tenant. And you talk about context-based understanding and I'm at a total loss. Still, as spook you were one of the few who made it to my ignore list, and as wyeaster, I don't see a hint of that. So you're not "spook" to me, and I see no need to treat you as if you were.

Originally Posted by iceman

I really don't think that's true Danno. we've definitely had people change over time and redefine themselves in relation to the forum. More often they just go away and that's fine too. Some I wish would come back but not all. I have no issue with wyeaster attempting to move on from how he was before, I'm in favor of it and am prepared to take it and him at face value until or unless I'm proven wrong.

Mtngirl on the other hand just keeps grinding away even though people have tried to be encouraging and supportive (I haven't, I wish she'd just shut the fuck up), so she's gonna keep getting it as long as she keeps putting it out there.

eh, like everything it was a generalization and not universally true. But surely true for some people. I mean, you say you'll take wyeaster at face value, yet it's obvious here that some people won't let spook go.

**Buster Highmen** · 04-26-2016, 02:11 PM

Originally Posted by wyeaster

i wasn't responding to you buster.

Hokay...taker 'er easy, there's too many assholes out there to get worried about.

**wyeaster** · 04-26-2016, 02:16 PM

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**My Pet Powder Goat** · 04-26-2016, 02:21 PM

Ya, that didn't clarify shit.....

I'm with Danno, I have no idea about a lot of the mtngirl/stalker/shooting backstory. Sounds salacious and would love to find out what's going on. I'm just impressed with the corner wyeaster has been able to turn, it's not easy as an adult to make such changes in your life and mindset and he deserves some respect and leway for it.

**wyeaster** · 04-26-2016, 02:21 PM

Originally Posted by stfu&gbtw

Seriously? Pedoherp is whining about keeping her personal info private in one thread, and doxing other maggots in another, resulting in people's wives and children being stalked?

Spook - did this happen the way I would imagine it happened? Because even around here, that's crossing the fucking line... and there will be consequences.

it happened because she must have googled me after i shared the article about the shooting. i figured it would happen and i'm not worried because i know me and i know him. i just didn't think somebody would be malicious about it, which is the only way a reference to renting my basement could be taken because i don't recall discussing it any time recently so there is no other way she would know or say anything. if i'm wrong, i apologize. i have a lot going on and i while i prepare for the worst sharing here, i wasn't expecting it and i don't want it to go further so i posted her reference.

also, pnwbrit i'm sorry you have no clarification. i was a little surprised by the comment but thanks for straightening me out.