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[Ottime]

I think it is the stuff around forestdale. I goes out of view on the incline to red lake. Lets talk about a walk. I see which day would be better for the lady. Early would be best, but I assume some sun softening will be in order.

[powdork]

i work at 4 both days. wonder how the backside is doing even though it would be totally unsafe what with all the cats and what not roaming around there.

[Esses]

Wasn't that MSP showing in SC on Halloween weekend? I would've gone, but that's bad timing.

WME blows.

[rod9301]

Anyone know if the ice is ready for climbing in the eagle lakes area, by emerald bay?

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[powdork]

saw a post on supertaco of someone climbing some low angle slab that looked like it might be near velma lakes if that helps at all
http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/th...302410&tn=2480 scroll almost to the bottom

[rod9301]

Thanks

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[Driver]

I think it is the stuff around forestdale. I goes out of view on the incline to red lake. Lets talk about a walk. I see which day would be better for the lady. Early would be best, but I assume some sun softening will be in order.

Deadwood

[meggers]

I'm a student at UNR and got the clear this week to ski this season on my new knee. I haven't bought a pass yet, but plan to tomorrow, and since everything is about the same price, I can't really cant make the decision on value like usual.

That being said all I am looking for this year is lack of crowds. I skied Rose last year and it was pretty empty, especially on weekdays. I again have two weekdays a week to ski, but if it's a powder day, I will ski on weekends too. I am considering a Sugarbowl pass, but am unsure how it is crowd wise. I'd do the Squawpine thing, but I heard it's bad on weekend powder days. And Northstar is a no-go just because I don't like it there.

Any suggestions? Or intel on what Sugarbowl is like crowd wise?

[~mikey b]

SB similar to Rose in that it's quieter than SV/AM most if the time. Can be nuts in big weekends due to closer proximity to I-80 and everything it brings.

SB is an awesome ski area. I prefer it to Rose, but I lived in Truckee not Reno.

Rose is the easy choice and there is great easy backcountry right there.
Given your circumstances: student, rehab, etc, Rose seems like a good call.

[tahoearmada]

Anyone else notice how BA's forecasts have gone to shit since he started reporting for KSL? It seems that theres always a big storm 10 days out that never actually come thru... hopefully this is a terrible coincidence but it seems fishy to me

[Fish Rider]

every two days BA's forecasted storm totals drop by half. I think it's just the nature of forecasting. The longer out the prediction the lesser its accuracy. He forecasts for Sierra as well (may be KSL indirect contact there too). Regardless even the 1-2 ft he predicted on Wed. is badly needed.

[tahoearmada]

1-2 feet?!?
apparently u havent read todays report... he now says we will most likely get 6-9 inches at the resorts
My beef is that prior to his employment with KSL (and before he switched to open snow) he wouldnt give these big potential totals so far out... basically what Im saying is that when ski areas are paying you to forecast weather you give them hope rather than reality whereas when reporting for ones self its all about whats really gonna fall, not what might fall in an ideal scenario

[Ottime]

Deadwood

Maybe. But the deadwood I know is further south and west. I've made a few more drives and these hills are much closer. If someone had all day to kill, it could be a worth while objective. Seems like wood lake access is still open too, for a sisters hit. But I could be wrong about everything.

[GrumpyPilot]

1-2 feet?!?
apparently u havent read todays report... he now says we will most likely get 6-9 inches at the resorts
My beef is that prior to his employment with KSL (and before he switched to open snow) he wouldnt give these big potential totals so far out... basically what Im saying is that when ski areas are paying you to forecast weather you give them hope rather than reality whereas when reporting for ones self its all about whats really gonna fall, not what might fall in an ideal scenario

You noticed that also... I thought I was the only one. This last storm was falling apart on the Canadian models a day or so before he said a word about it. I have gone back to my old habits of looking at all the models myself and make my own call. I no longer rely on B.A. like I did 4 years or so ago when he started. Oh well...

[Driver]

Maybe. But the deadwood I know is further south and east. I've made a few more drives and these hills are much closer. If someone had all day to kill, it could be a worth while objective. Seems like wood lake access is still open too, for a sisters hit. But I could be wrong about everything.

We are thinking about the same zone but possible different peaks... Either way it's a full day mission. Want to do an overnight back there this year.

[coop64]

From WWG:
Weather Discussion: It's the end of November but feels more like the end of October or even September with high pressure building over California providing unseasonably mild weather for this holiday weekend. What a difference a couple of days will make. A cold core low beginning to develop over Alaska today will plunge southward tomorrow and reach the Pacific Northwest on Monday. Strengthening onshore flow ahead of the low will be manifested across the Sierra by Monday afternoon as westerly winds (still relatively warm) whip up over the ridges. A cold front proceeding the low will then drop down over the Sierra Tuesday morning causing temperatures to plummet below freezing, with highs around Lake Tahoe on Tuesday (as well as Wed/Thu) not even making it to 30F) some 25-30 degrees cooler than Sunday & Monday. This morning's models offer a little more optimism for some decent snowfall on Tuesday showing a nice "bulls-eye" of moisture concentrated right over Lake Tahoe. Can foresee up to a foot of "dry" snow falling in a 6 hour period Tuesday morning. Otherwise, it appears the moisture will be short lived with just a cold, dry northerly flow to follow for the rest of the week. Other than maybe some light snow flurries on Wednesday, it should dry out completely by Thursday. Once temps drop below freezing late Monday night / early Tuesday morning, they aren't likely to get back above freezing until next weekend. Looking further out, this morning's models offer several storms that look promising heading into mid-December, but it's too early to get too excited about those projections as we've seen it all before with the models this fall 10-14 days out.

[lepistoir]

[sierraskier]

Anyone else notice how BA's forecasts have gone to shit since he started reporting for KSL? It seems that theres always a big storm 10 days out that never actually come thru... hopefully this is a terrible coincidence but it seems fishy to me

Kind of. But the last two season have f'n sucked weather-wise and systems and storm tracks that have historically produced some snow have consistently ended up drier, missed us, etc... which I think has made it a little more difficult. Also, I think all of the forecasters have more trouble with the early-season patterns as they are harder to predict. It seems like no what matter forecast you read the last couple years, you have to assume that it could come in drier than forecasted. I have noticed he seems to be a little less timely with his forecasts and updates.

[Rads63]

60% of the time forecasts are right every time! But it's hard not to get pumped up when a forecast calls for snow. But the last two seasons have been junkfish so it's EZ to look at the preson putting out the forecast but he does get paid to be wrong more then right! My two cents.

[powdork]

i don't think you can see deadwood from the road. your either looking at the peak to the right (west) of forestdale divide, which is an easy day tour (if you can skin the whole way), or the nipple or the peak in between, or possibly markleeville peak but thats separated a bit from the others. the ones labeled as long tours are typically snowmobile territory but i doubt they're getting after it yet

[TahoeJ]

Weather.com was reporting 4 straight days of snow on the 10-day forecast back when BA was calling for the same thing. A KSL conspiracy? Really?

We're just on an amazingly shitty run of luck... almost makes me want to move to the PNW. Except, not really.

[Ottime]

60% of the time forecasts are right every time! But it's hard not to get pumped up when a forecast calls for snow. But the last two seasons have been junkfish so it's EZ to look at the preson putting out the forecast but he does get paid to be wrong more then right! My two cents.

60% is a failing grade. But it is actually is more right than wrong.

Powdork, it is both the likely (easy) and likely (long). Likely. Too bad blue lakes road is gated. And you definitely can't skin the entire way. I have not looked at maps, but it seems that access from red lake would be reasonable.

[Ottime]

Weather.com was reporting 4 straight days of snow on the 10-day forecast back when BA was calling for the same thing. A KSL conspiracy? Really?

KSL is much more far reaching than I ever imagined. They have even infiltrated the government as NOAA and the GFS also were calling for rain and snow.

[powdork]

When i do the one labeled 'easy' i go over the shoulder of Round Top to the east of winnemucca lake. Ski down the low angle backside then traverse to the ridge. Drop in then yoyo back to e-back and out via red lake.

[powdork]

Weather.com was reporting 4 straight days of snow on the 10-day forecast back when BA was calling for the same thing. A KSL conspiracy? Really?

We're just on an amazingly shitty run of luck... almost makes me want to move to the PNW. Except, not really.

That ALWAYS happens but it's not a mistake. That far out, when they report 4 days of snow (this time it was each at 40% probability) that means they know there is a storm coming but can't pinpoint the timing. As it gets closer it will go to two days of snow but with higher probability (confidence) on those days assuming the storm still is coming. That part is just the nature of forecasting.