4FRNT Renegade ~ Hand built in SLC.

**4FRNT** · 03-25-2011, 11:06 AM

Originally Posted by Moralkaka

When do you expect to deliver?

Delivery date should be sometime in October/early-November. We'll have a better idea once construction starts.

**D(C)** · 03-25-2011, 11:20 AM

Originally Posted by 4FRNT

Delivery date should be sometime in October/early-November. We'll have a better idea once construction starts.

Hopefully before the snow falls this time around. That wait just about killed me...

**4FRNT** · 03-25-2011, 12:24 PM

Originally Posted by D(C)

Hopefully before the snow falls this time around. That wait just about killed me...

Yeah, for sure. We will not face the same delays as we did last year. We learned a TON, and are working now to get the process dialed in before we press the first skis this summer.

**Mustonen** · 03-25-2011, 12:50 PM

Since you're obviously watching this thread, 4FRNT - what kind of plans do you have for a skinnier Renegade?

**iscariot** · 03-25-2011, 12:52 PM

Dear 4frnt,

Could you please make a version of the current EHP, but with a twin tip (ie. put long low profile rise, just like the regular tip at the front of the ski, but at the tail of the ski)?

Thanks,
iscariot

**4FRNT** · 03-25-2011, 03:45 PM

Originally Posted by Mustonen

Since you're obviously watching this thread, 4FRNT - what kind of plans do you have for a skinnier Renegade?

Eric wants to update the EHP for 12/13 using what we learned making the Ren. How major or minor those changes will be, or what it will all come out like in the end is still up in the air.

We've got to do a bunch of testing, prototyping, etc before we make any decisions.

**D(C)** · 03-25-2011, 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by 4FRNT

Eric wants to update the EHP for 12/13 using what we learned making the Ren. How major or minor those changes will be, or what it will all come out like in the end is still up in the air.

We've got to do a bunch of testing, prototyping, etc before we make any decisions.

That's a great idea! You can mark me down for a pair.

**allTandA** · 03-25-2011, 08:45 PM

For the record

I am drinking the Kool-Aid

**mc_roon** · 04-01-2011, 04:06 PM

fondled the 196s today. they are tanks

**EEC** · 04-01-2011, 09:15 PM

Originally Posted by mc_roon

fondled the 196s today. they are tanks

Wish my income was higher. Considering heavily thinning my quiver/cooking meth.

**DudeLebowSKI** · 04-05-2011, 12:40 PM

Brought the Renegades to Haines not knowing what to expect. My apologies to 4FRNT for questioning portions of the design. I now think that the Renegade is the best AK/West Coast pow ski ever. They crush both my Wagner customs (142-120-134) and the 192 Atlas. So stable, so fast and so fun.

P.S. Contrary to the public opinion that AK wasn't going to shape up, Haines is going off right now.

**Marok** · 04-05-2011, 01:14 PM

Is the 4Frnt Renegade 186 an easy ski to ski on? This is my first winter ive been skiing powder and dooing freerideing, im 6,2 and 180 lbs.

**Mustonen** · 04-05-2011, 01:17 PM

dooing. heh.

I don't know if easy is the word.

**Marok** · 04-05-2011, 01:19 PM

Okey then. Is it easy to swing around and to manuver in tight areas?

**Mustonen** · 04-05-2011, 01:34 PM

Did you read this thread?

Anyhow, I'm lukewarm on the idea of this ski being an intro/beginner ski. On the other hand, I don't know that they're particularly demanding.......

**abraham** · 04-05-2011, 01:35 PM

yeah they are pretty easy to move around in tight places. Of course matt was skiing the 196s in tighter trees than I was.

**abraham** · 04-05-2011, 01:41 PM

Just saw that you were asking as a beginner. I thought they needed some strength to use well and I did get knocked backseat a few times, the rocker may have made it harder to get back into a good position. For a starting, the CRJ seems like it may be a better prospect.

**4FRNT** · 04-05-2011, 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by DudeLebowSKI

Brought the Renegades to Haines not knowing what to expect. My apologies to 4FRNT for questioning portions of the design. I know know that the Renegade is the best AK/West Coast pow ski ever. They crush both my Wagner customs (142-120-134) and the 192 Atlas. So stable, so fast and so fun.

P.S. Contrary to public opinion that AK wasn't going to shape up, Haines is going off right now.

Apology accepted

Glad you had a good trip on the Rens, and good to hear AK is finally starting to get their share, too. Sounds like it's been a rough year up there so far.

**gramboh** · 05-06-2011, 04:32 PM

Nearing the end of the season here, just thought I'd say I love the Renegades. Skiing them with Dukes at 87 from the tail, 5'10 200#, used them every day except for a few hard snow/early season days on my old Armada ANTs. Amazing for the variety of daily conditions (mostly soft) at Whistler, also had them out at Retallack where they were awesome in the really steep trees/pillows, always nimble at changing directions in pow. Most surprising is how they rail on groomers (sidecut matching rocker is my guess). For the first time in a while, not considering any new skis for next year.

**allTandA** · 05-16-2011, 07:26 PM

Originally Posted by gramboh

..... For the first time in a while, not considering any new skis for next year.

sacre bleu

**Brianskis** · 05-16-2011, 08:16 PM

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One of my favorite 2010/11 Skis... Suprisingly versatile even on hard condtions. So much fun in the soft stuff, still capable of carrying very high speeds through variable condtions. Could be considered a one ski quiver for many. Just a couple quick turns shown here, very nimble for it's width.

**Wasatch Ripper** · 06-17-2011, 12:17 AM

Hey guys, I'm getting a minty brand spankin new pair of these tomorrow! But my question is, with your experiences, where should I mount them? I'm 5'11" 175 with a laid back style of skiing. My style will most definately change once I ski these...so where should I mount??

**D(C)** · 06-17-2011, 01:09 AM

Originally Posted by Wasatch Ripper

Hey guys, I'm getting a minty brand spankin new pair of these tomorrow! But my question is, with your experiences, where should I mount them? I'm 5'11" 175 with a laid back style of skiing. My style will most definately change once I ski these...so where should I mount??

I'm 5'8" 172 lbs. Like I told you, I like 88 from the tail. 87 was similar but you had to concentrate on driving the tips a bit more at turn initiation. At 88 they're buttery smooth with turn initiation under your boot. Congrats on the new skis!