Jackson Mags...Glory hike record?

[rideit]

So, I am sure this topic has been covered, but hey, there might be new players here.

My personal best hiking Glory was 34 minutes, years ago when i was in prime shape. I am in shit shape now, so I am looking for attainable goals for fitness. I have a friend who is trying do an under 30 this year...that is sickness. (he is off by .42 seconds...ouch!)
I simply want to beat my PB from 8 years (and 12 pounds!) ago, and I think I can do it by Feb.-March, conditions permitting.
Anyone else torture themselves in this manner?
Anyone know what the record time is?

[Hutch]

My experience was (and this is 10 years ago) that you could never go as fast as you wanted because of people uphill from you. Usually took around 40 minutes, but I am not the type to time such things.

[StormRider]

I have no idea whet THE record is other than knowing I have never and will never come close to it. I don’t even know what my personal best is other than not fast. I’m usually not in a huge rush to get up. Setting a goal doe seem like a fun idea. Ski Fitness don’t fail me now!

[rideit]

I only ever counted my own time when I was hiking with a dude that was training for Cat 2 cycling, and he kept records of everything. The trail crowding factor is indeed an issue...the best time to go is obviously VERY early in the AM, or in the evening...which can be awesome if the snow stays consistent.

[Lawless]

I'd imagine some people can do it in low to mid twenties. In prime shape, I'm usually in the mid 30's or so, and have a buddy who can kick my ass up it with a hangover.

For a goal, I'd say do it the first time and time it, try to take a few minutes off each time up.

I've always had a goal to do it 5 times in a day. That goal usually turns to thoughts of beer after the first run and then turns to actual beer drinking after the 3rd.

[rideit]

3 is all I have ever been able to muster before the beer speed dialed me, and told me to come home soon.

[fez]

i bet this guy could do it in under 20 min.

Top of Teewinot 90 min after leaving lupine meadows? 6:40 Grand Traverse taking almost 90 min off The Lung With Legs' time? holy shit that guy is an animal!

Guide shatters Traverse record
From article in the Jackson Hole News by Jim Stanford
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Climber scales 10 Teton peaks in less than 7 hours
Exum guide Garibotti bests Alex Lowe's Grand Traverse record by nearly 90 minutes. "Unless a man aspires to the impossible, the possible that he achieves will scarcely be worth the trouble of his achieving it." - Miguel de Unamuno
To understand how speed climber Rolando Garibotti completed the storied Grand Traverse in a shocking 6 hours and 49 minutes on Aug. 26, one must know a few things about Miguel de Unamuno. Unamuno, an early-20th century Spanish existentialist, challenged people to push their limits, test their faith and embrace the noble struggle against death. "Only that which suffers is divine," he preached in his writings.

Garibotti, a 29-year-old senior Exum guide, was pondering Unamuno's philosophy when he set out at 5:50 a.m. from the Lupine Meadows parking area in Grand Teton National Park. Also on his mind was the late Alex Lowe, a friend and fellow Exum guide who in 1988 had set a heretofore unchallenged mark of 8 hours and 15 minutes for climbing all of the central Teton peaks, a herculean feat known as the Grand Traverse.

Twice in the preceding two weeks Garibotti had completed the 10-peak traverse, which includes ascents of Teewinot, Mount Owen, the Grand Teton, Middle Teton, South Teton and Nez Perce. On Aug. 12 he had finished the trek in 8:21, six minutes slower than Lowe's incredible pace. On Aug. 23 he made the journey with Exum guide Kim Csizmazia, the first woman ever to accomplish the feat. The two circled the loop in 12:26.

On this third attempt, Garibotti had one goal - to do his absolute best. An Italian native who grew up in Bariloche, Argentina, he had been running on talus fields since he was 13. "If there's something I can do well, it's scrambling and running down rocky terrain," he said. In keeping with Unamuno's precepts, Garibotti said the challenge wasn't between him and the Tetons; it was solely within himself. "Whatever I had,I was making sure it all got out," he said.

What ensued simply defies comprehension. Wearing only a pair of shorts, a polypropylene shirt, sturdy socks and running shoes re-soled with sticky rubber, Garibotti blazed a trail few mortals can match. He carried no rope with only a windbreaker and one-quart water bottle slung around his waist. In 90 minutes he climbed nearly 6,000 vertical feet up Teewinot's east face to the 12,325-foot summit. From there he proceeded to the upper Koven Route on Owen, and after summiting Owen, he reached Gunsight Notch between Owen and the Grand at about 8:25 a.m. (elapsed time: 2:35).

From the Grandstand above the notch, he scurried up the Italian cracks on the north face of the Grand. By 9:10 a.m. he stood atop the 13,770-foot buttress but didn't pause long to enjoy the view. The day was breezy and overcast, ideal conditions for moving fast though the mountains. Mumbling mantras to stay focused, Garibotti headed south. He climbed down the Owen-Spalding route on the Grand and up the north ridge of the 12,804-foot Middle Teton by 10 a.m. After sweeping over the summit of the South Teton, he traversed east along the lesser peaks of Ice Cream Cone, Gilkey Tower, Spalding Peak and Cloudveil Dome before reaching the 11,901-foot summit of Nez Perce at 10:40 a.m.

"I got to see a lot of very, very pretty terrain," he said. "A lot of beauty all together. That's the fun of being alone and moving so quickly - you get to see a lot more."

The slightly built climber then bounded down the Garnet Canyon and Amphitheater Lake trails like a frightened deer as a light rain began to fall. He returned to his car in the Lupine Meadows lot at 12:39 p.m. Garibotti soon strolled into the Exum office near the south shore of Jenny Lake carrying two ice cream bars, two bottles of Gatorade and a can of Red Bull energy drink in his arms. "He showed up like he was going to work," said Exum office worker Cyndy Hargis. "He didn't even look tired."

Garibotti, known in the climbing world for his speed ascents in Yosemite and Patagonia, said he didn't feel wiped out physically. His mind was so exhausted, however, that it was free of all thoughts, and he actually felt quite relaxed, he said. "Physically, the traverse is not that consuming," he said. "Mentally, it's a lot more difficult."

Czismazia, 32, called Garibotti "the Bionic Man" and likened his feat to Michael Jordan redefining what was possible in the game of basketball. "Rolo definitely stands out amongst climbers," she said. Garibotti said the highlight of the experience was returning to the trailhead without hurting himself. The climber typically downplayed the feat, crediting Lowe for his inspiration. "I might have the fastest time, but the fantasy and conception of this is all Alex's," he said. Lowe, who was killed by an avalanche in the Himalayas last October, was a first-year Exum guide when he first made the Grand Traverse in 1988. On descending the Middle Teton, he slipped and tore a chunk out of his buttocks. Exum owner Al Read remembers Lowe returning to the office with copious amounts of blood caked on his butt and legs. Lowe, too, was quick to downplay the competitive nature of setting a speed record for a climbing feat. "Climbing is sort of an isolated activity in which you are really competing with yourself," he told writer Mark Krouse, who has included the Grand Traverse in his 50 Favorite Climbs. "To me, the best climber in the world is the one having the most fun."

Garibotti echoed that sentiment. "I don't view [the record] as something particularly special," he said. "Anyone can walk up to Amphitheater Lake for the first time and have the same richness of experience." Garibotti, who timed himself, said along the route he ran into other parties of climbers who could verify his record-smashing pace. "So I'm not bullshitting," he explained. "The time really doesn't matter. The fun exercise that day was searching within me for everything there was and making sure it all got out."

It all got out. Somewhere Miguel de Unamuno is smiling.

[schwerty]

Damn....5 times! I have to take a Spicy Meat Burrito from D.O.G. along to get 2 laps in. 2 laps = Beer-30--even if it's 10am for me.

I know a few fellas who consistantly hit the low thirties. Last year a couple of em lapped my fat-ass on a dawn patrol trip. I'm shooting to get back to the 45 min. mark this year.

[Skid Lux]

I did it 3 times and then a bear claw one afternoon and thought that was enough. My best is 40 min. 5 times would be insane!

[strawjack]

once after indulging da fungi, i believe it took us all day to hike and ski little tucks! that is probably some sort of record...

[StormRider]

I did it 5 times in one day once.




Oh wait, we still talking about hiking Glory?

[skiing-in-jackson]

once after indulging da fungi, i believe it took us all day to hike and ski little tucks! that is probably some sort of record...

LOL. I had a similar experience over at the wind and ice caves.

[rideit]

Glory-Hole, WY?

[upallnight]

i would bet good money that some folks around here have done it in the low-20s.

i did get into the low-30 range from the parking lot, and i felt i was definitely moving. i was pretty lucky in that people had already stepped off the track so i didn't get stuck behind anyone (there weren't too many people out to begin with), and conditions weren't that great for skiing (which made for good steps for hiking, though). i did have my regular boots & fat skis + shovel, probe, etc., but i was dressed lightly and not carrying any water.

not sure if i got "lucky" with that time on the way up, but i got "lucky" with my knee injury on the way down.

i couldn't foresee myself ever doing faster than that, unless i was using lighter boots/carrying light skis.

it's kind of like running a 5-minute mile. with enough running, you can get there -- same thing if you commit to your routine of hikes. (i ran in HS and basically had no god-given ability, but eventually i was able to get there. always envied the guys who could win the race and barely get out of breath.)

plus, if you're going with your madman friend, that'll probably squeeze a bit off your time. i predict you'll get sub-30.

although i hope that you won't be able to do it by march because it'll be waist-deep post-holing (wishful thinking for this snow year).

good luck!

my frist hike up glory this season last weekend felt pretty slow. i think the first hike always is, no matter what shape i'm in from other sports. the knee made it, but it doesn't quite have that endurance yet.

[coolstine]

My PR is 30 minutes. I also used to race cycling and tend to keep track of all my endurance activities, a curse some may say...but I am still always very competetive, can't get it out of my blood. That being said, I agree that somebody could/has definitely do/done it in the 20s, becuase there are always people that are faster, espescially in Jackson.

[skiski]

My best is 39. Though that was the only time I ever timed myself, but I felt like I was pushing it pretty hard to get that. Seems crappy compared to some of the other numbers on here. I think I was averaging about 45 minutes at the time.
3 in a day is my max.

[patrickski]

thought i would revive this thread out of curiosity...

anyone know of the record?

i have no shot at it, timed myself at 38 minutes the other day which was actually pretty tough. what about number of laps in a day?

[GrassHPer]

I have a buddy who claimed to do in under 30 on an evening when there was no one ahead of him.
i'm happy when I can do it in 45. although the goal of getting under 30 is enticing...maybe next season.

[awake1563]

I'd like to see (Dr.) Cary Smith's times...

[babybear]

I'd like to see (Dr.) Cary Smith's times...

or tattersall's? (No turtling jokes)
Skijunky is pretty quick too...which is why i try to fatten him up and keep him baby bear speeds
Wasn't there someone last winter that was going for the record number of laps on Glory? seem to recall hearing about that but can't remember the outcome. I think the previous record number of laps in one day was 14? dam.

[patrickski]

or tattersall's? (No turtling jokes)
Skijunky is pretty quick too...which is why i try to fatten him up and keep him baby bear speeds
Wasn't there someone last winter that was going for the record number of laps on Glory? seem to recall hearing about that but can't remember the outcome. I think the previous record number of laps in one day was 14? dam.

14 glory laps?

[MuleSkinner]

14 glory laps?

Pretty sure that was Luke and Dan - Dan did 12 in one day and Luke did 14?

I don't remember the exact details - I think the story was posted on TetonAT.com

[patrickski]

Pretty sure that was Luke and Dan - Dan did 12 in one day and Luke did 14?

I don't remember the exact details - I think the story was posted on TetonAT.com

http://www.tetonat.com/?p=125

One did 10 laps in 11 hours and the other guy did 12 laps in 13

12 laps is ~20,000' vert!!!

[babybear]

i guess i was a little off but I knew it was a plethora. Luke likes to exercise.

[Trackhead]

According to TetonAT poster the vert is 1670ft per lap.

30 min would be very attainable by the average fit person for a single lap.

A top rando racer should be able to do it in 20 minutes pretty easily with their ability to climb 5k per hour.